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Author:  colin040 [ Thu Aug 11, 2022 11:34 am ]
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Surprised that this review got accepted; https://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/ ... tie/348473

Three paragraphs only and only one that gives somewhat of a description.

Author:  TheBurningOfSodom [ Thu Aug 11, 2022 4:57 pm ]
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Several extremely brief and somewhat messy reviews from an old user. The others I didn't link in the spoiler are slightly longer and with a more decent musical description but they might be worth a look as well.

Spoiler: show


colin040 wrote:
Surprised that this review got accepted; https://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/ ... tie/348473

Three paragraphs only and only one that gives somewhat of a description.

Sweetie is actually a Scribe so it didn't really get accepted, but I reckon he can keep things too short from time to time. I recall reading even several single-paragraph reviews by him. I guess they're ultimately fine but I find them a bit frustrating as well.

Author:  gasmask_colostomy [ Fri Aug 12, 2022 12:22 am ]
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colin040 wrote:
Surprised that this review got accepted; https://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/ ... tie/348473

Three paragraphs only and only one that gives somewhat of a description.

Yeah, this one doesn't do it for me either. Admitting in the last paragraph that he can't put his finger on what's wrong kind of sums it all up there. Usually Sweetie's mid-length reviews are good for a quick read, this one just doesn't have the cut.

Author:  The Bard with Bright Eyes [ Fri Aug 12, 2022 6:43 am ]
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Slater922 wrote:
Okay, if we're gonna be removing Boris's reviews, at least save them on the Wayback Machine before you post them here. I'm an archivist at heart, and I do try and preserve these reviews as much as I can before they get 404'd, and for one of my main inspirations in writing MA reviews, I'd like to keep some of his work saved.


You can find some of his deleted reviews here.

Author:  Klaagzang [ Wed Aug 17, 2022 11:47 am ]
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https://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/ ... che/40006/

Author:  Metantoine [ Wed Aug 17, 2022 12:05 pm ]
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colin040 wrote:
Surprised that this review got accepted; https://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/ ... tie/348473

Three paragraphs only and only one that gives somewhat of a description.

I sent it back. Sweetie is a scribe so his reviews are automatically approved.

Author:  Sweetie [ Thu Aug 18, 2022 3:17 pm ]
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I guess even the veteran reviewers sometimes drop a half-assed one :lol: I'll probably just nuke it entirely.

Author:  colin040 [ Fri Aug 19, 2022 4:05 pm ]
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https://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/ ... um/113278/

Super brief!

Author:  orphy [ Sun Aug 21, 2022 7:23 pm ]
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https://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/ ... 66/1637200

Barely anything in this review is about the album. When it does get to the album, it's a few brief sentences with comparisons to some other bands, and that's about it.

Author:  colin040 [ Fri Aug 26, 2022 2:22 pm ]
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https://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/ ... ome/94901/

Brief!

Author:  TheBurningOfSodom [ Sun Aug 28, 2022 11:20 am ]
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Probably a dumb question, but what should we do with those old split reviews that deliberately only talk about one band on the release? Is that still considered OK?

An example being: https://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/ ... der/148817 but I'm pretty sure I'd stumbled upon some other ones in the past.

Author:  robotniq [ Wed Aug 31, 2022 12:56 pm ]
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TheBurningOfSodom wrote:
Probably a dumb question, but what should we do with those old split reviews that deliberately only talk about one band on the release? Is that still considered OK?


My view, for what its worth, is something like this:
- If the split record has more than one band listed on the site, then you should cover all bands listed on the site.
- If the split record has only one band listed on the site then there are two options. Either (a) focus on that band alone, or (b) cover both/all the bands and use it as a fun excuse to talk about stuff that would never get covered otherwise.

I've done both in the past.
Here (https://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/Confusion/Full_of_Life_-_Full_of_Live/657603/) I only covered the one band listed on the site because I wanted to focus on them properly (though, since I wrote that, another band got accepted to the site so I should probably update it).
Here (https://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/Bolt_Thrower/Polka_Slam_-_Crisis_Point/113277/) I covered all four bands despite only one of them being listed, just because I wanted to talk about punk and ska for a bit.

No idea if that is the 'right' approach, but it worked for me.

Author:  TheBurningOfSodom [ Thu Sep 01, 2022 6:22 am ]
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Seems legit enough, actually. Probably there isn't even an explicit rule about the matter, such is the variety of splits. Thanks for clarifying!

Author:  kluseba [ Sun Sep 04, 2022 4:24 am ]
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In addition to several spelling mistakes, this review has some homophobic and misogynistic remarks that aren't acceptable in my book: https://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/ ... rtido/2095

Here are some quotes:

''Oh, and you sound like a fag!''

''I thank God that this CD doesn't include picure. Now THAT would be hideuos -because even if the other band member are allright, Tony looks like a tall five-penny whore with beard whose nervous and insecure performance is just so embarrasing to watch, that I wonder how the guy can survive after a gig without killing himself.''

Author:  Slater922 [ Sun Sep 04, 2022 9:15 am ]
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kluseba wrote:
In addition to several spelling mistakes, this review has some homophobic and misogynistic remarks that aren't acceptable in my book: https://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/ ... rtido/2095

Here are some quotes:

''Oh, and you sound like a fag!''

''I thank God that this CD doesn't include picure. Now THAT would be hideuos -because even if the other band member are allright, Tony looks like a tall five-penny whore with beard whose nervous and insecure performance is just so embarrasing to watch, that I wonder how the guy can survive after a gig without killing himself.''

This review definitely reads like a bad review from 2003, particularly with that homophobic sentence.

Author:  Dembo [ Tue Sep 06, 2022 6:23 am ]
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https://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/ ... n666/68424

I feel this one doesn't describe much, but mostly just throws out bitter words like "Testasuck" "sucky", "pathetic", "annoying". Also a strange comment where the thinks this sounds like an imitation of Metallica's self-titled album, despite the big difference in sound.

Author:  TheBurningOfSodom [ Thu Sep 29, 2022 7:00 am ]
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https://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/ ... Guy/158521

Kinda short and vague. Also, since when are acoustic breaks a throwback to glam metal?

Author:  TheBurningOfSodom [ Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:23 am ]
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https://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/ ... etal/72131

A huge wall of text track-by-track that's tiresome to read. The author having been Dursted makes me think deleting it wouldn't be an irreparable loss...

Author:  TheBurningOfSodom [ Wed Oct 05, 2022 5:34 am ]
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https://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/ ... olnick/743

Another very old, huge track-by-track, plus the formatting is a mess.

Author:  TheBurningOfSodom [ Wed Oct 05, 2022 11:13 am ]
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https://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/ ... aBoris/147

One of Boris' shortest? That is quite something :lol: it doesn't say anything, really.

Author:  TheBurningOfSodom [ Thu Oct 06, 2022 5:40 am ]
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https://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/ ... 69_/481697

I've probably posted it before but really, an obnoxious review whose main point is constantly (and I mean, constantly, at least once every paragraph) referring other people's opinions and discrediting them, often just repeating the same things. The reviewer even admits at one point that he 'just couldn't bear to leave this album at a 0%, because its absolutely not a zero and people are just being ridiculous'.

Author:  Sweetie [ Thu Oct 06, 2022 10:18 am ]
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Amongst reading Twisted_Psychology's incredible review on Ghost's debut, it made me scroll back and see what else people had to say, and this one is sheer garbage:

https://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/ ... 403/377356

There are like, 3 sentences that KINDA describe the music, the rest is a combo of how it isn't what they expected, references to other bands and how it isn't as good as those bands, and an entire paragraph bitching about how everyone talks about Ghost too much. No idea how this ever passed.

Author:  Lord_Of_Diamonds [ Fri Oct 07, 2022 3:26 am ]
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I really liked that Ghost review as well. Spot on assessment of the vocals and how they came to be in the band.

Author:  FontaL [ Fri Oct 07, 2022 2:41 pm ]
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https://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/ ... capeda/476
https://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/ ... erdue/1393
https://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/ ... aBoris/147

I don't know which is worse but I think Ultraboris' one should be removed for sure.

Author:  TheBurningOfSodom [ Thu Oct 13, 2022 5:38 am ]
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https://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/ ... ible/16656

Not bad at all but maaaybe the last sentence is a bit... problematic?

Reviewer, in 2008 wrote:
Maybe we'll get lucky and Bush will invade Belarus next, it might not be as entertaining as Iraq, but if even one member of this band died it would be worth the trouble.

Author:  TheBurningOfSodom [ Thu Oct 13, 2022 11:40 am ]
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https://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/ ... rian/95437

Another one that holds up pretty decently, but the formatting is an eyesore.

Author:  Darth_Roxor [ Sun Oct 16, 2022 12:45 am ]
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https://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/ ... tch/154734

There's really no other valid reaction to this text than "Why was this review accepted". The only things it bothers to mention regarding music are "recycled galloping riffs" and "Tim Owens sucks", while the rest is some kind of nonsensical wank that doesn't even have a grip on reality.

I mean just take this:

Quote:
This suffers from in-your-face and unapologetic American patriotism which comes off as nothing more than sheer ignorance and racism. We’re talking never leaving America and believing it’s the greatest country ever with no flaw's ignorance, while being completely sheltered and isolated in a bubble. The same stupidity people who think Africa is a country or all Asian people know karate would show. Throw in classic vague conspiracy theory garbage like “true evil grows in you” and “you’re just a brainwashed fool” while you're at it, Jon. Look at that, the conspiracy theorist is calling the listener a sheep, so captivating.


Can anyone please point me to this supposed evil xenophobic racism in The Glorious Burden? To the conspiracy theory garbage?

Or better yet, if TGB is supposed to be all about "never leaving America", then how come it has songs like Waterloo? Attila? Red Baron? Hello? Is there a doctor on board?

Author:  TheBurningOfSodom [ Tue Oct 18, 2022 8:47 am ]
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https://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/ ... e_Fall/304
https://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/ ... e_Fall/304
https://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/ ... e_Fall/304
https://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/ ... e_Fall/304
https://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/ ... e_Fall/304
https://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/ ... e_Fall/304
https://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/ ... e_Fall/304
https://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/ ... e_Fall/304
https://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/ ... e_Fall/304

I have trouble imagining one of these make the cut today... also most other old reviews by this user are similar, full of typos and awkward stuff all around.

Author:  Sweetie [ Fri Oct 21, 2022 2:09 pm ]
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Looks like this thread gets pretty exclusively ignored now

Author:  EzraBlumenfeld [ Sat Nov 12, 2022 8:19 pm ]
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https://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/ ... Doctor/365

Admits to not having even listened to the whole album, fails to mention a single factor besides drum production

Author:  thePowermetalLynx [ Sun Nov 20, 2022 10:17 pm ]
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Says literally nothing: https://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/ ... Death/9414

Author:  Red_Death [ Sat Nov 26, 2022 11:52 am ]
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Not sure if this is the right thread to raise this issue, but I noticed a weird mistake in this review for White Ward's False Light:

https://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/White_Ward/False_Light/1035070/Steppenwolf1997/1516822

There's basically a whole paragraph appearing twice ("...we must highlight the strength and presence of the singer's voice...").

Author:  colin040 [ Sun Nov 27, 2022 2:06 pm ]
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https://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/ ... aBoris/147

Basically comes down to ''good riffs, poor songs'' but he doesn't describe the issue in too much detail.

Author:  Skweaver [ Wed Nov 30, 2022 1:09 am ]
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https://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/ ... r33/376968

The second lowest review score they have ever given, and its on an album that only has 90% and higher reviews, plus they go on to say they appreciate they musicians abilities? The comparisions they made also just don't really make sense like they didn't actually listen to the album. Seems like review bombing.

Author:  BastardHead [ Wed Nov 30, 2022 3:12 am ]
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The only bad things about that Sonja review is the really hamfisted nu metal namedrop and the implications that Enforcer isn't fast or classic sounding. I don't detect any bad faith there.

Author:  nightbreaker33 [ Sun Jan 01, 2023 1:51 pm ]
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If Enforcer get rid of the Motley Crue vocals the band will be better.

Author:  vigaljot [ Mon Jan 02, 2023 12:58 pm ]
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https://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/ ... d_R/414704

The autor of the review states himself that it is based on the bonus disk which comes with one of the "Live in Leipzig" releases. It says in the notes to this specific release that new master tapes were found for this specific one, therefore the quality is superior to the aforementioned bonus disk. This means that the author of the review has reviewed a different release, coming from a different source (therefore irrelevant), although recorded on the same occasion.

Author:  EzraBlumenfeld [ Sun Jan 15, 2023 7:30 pm ]
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https://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/ ... umien/5517

Track by track

Author:  DarthVenom [ Thu Feb 16, 2023 1:37 pm ]
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https://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/ ... nd/452694/

I know it's the only review the album has at the moment, but the only musical description given is 'metal with an australian flavour'. Even by 2005 standards this is...huh :lol:

Author:  colin040 [ Sat Feb 18, 2023 10:32 am ]
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https://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/ ... s/1013327/

Brief, hardly descriptive.

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