Well i'd like to hear peoples opionions on wether they think anythings gonna happen, something in my mind just kinda knows somethings gonna happen...

Not a good idea for a topic. It's not even this year, or the next, but 4years later. How the hell are we supposed to guess things?

Well let's see....the Olympics will be that year; it will be the end of our next presiden't first term; February will have 29 days...

http://survive2012.com/

read it

Oh right, forgot about doomsday.

A time traveler told me on a message board that Jacksonville and Washington DC would be bombed in 2012. Then there will be a great American civil war, which will end in an intense World War III.

He didn't mean to tell me that though, he just needed a few pieces to an IBM computer or something from the seventies.


Edit: This article basically says that the Mayans put a lot of significance on the end date of their calendars, which is December 2012. It doesn't really mean that they thought the world was going to end. The sun will be aligned with the center of the galaxy for the first time in 26,000 years, apparently.

Well, the Mayans guessed thousands of years back. I think he meant to list the ways it might end.

From what I've understood, the year is just when the Mayan calender ended, and had no other significant importance.

Haha, my best friend has joked around with me about America being long overdo for another civil war. Not to mention the whole "end of the world" scenario getting a bad rap. It's always looked at with a negative point of view it seems.

Ok, what's the scientific evidence for the world ending in 2012? Are we supposed to believe in an ancient Mayan prophecy?

In 2012, I will be 33 years old which is how old Jesus was when he was crucified.

My birthday is March 3 (3/3).

Mary Magdalene, The Holy Grail, supposedly fled to France to escape persecution. Here she possibly gave birth to the offspring of Jesus.

I have French ancestry.

In the autumn of 1997, before I'd even thought of any of this, I had myself convinced for 15 minutes that I was the second coming of Jesus.

What does all this mean?

Absolutely nothing.

Only if you want to put some more money into the wallets of crack-pot doomsday theorists by buying their book to learn how to save yourself from the end of the world.


What I read, a few years ago or so when someone first told me about it, they did see it with some importance. It had something to do with their mythology involving the "sacred tree" or whatever that was the center of the galaxy where their gods were born. I don't really remember that well. I'd go look for more information, but so much of it is probably full of crazy doomsday sites that it wouldn't be worth it anyway.

Like that survive2012 site, for example:

Welcome back, messiah!

If this isn't a lame joke, the OP is fru-fru on a level surpassing PumpkinFlyFree. And if it is a joke it's exactly the sort of thing that's not meant for this new subforum.

Could it be possible for locked topics to be invisible here? Not deleted, but removed from the clutter. That of course is going on the pessimistic assumption that this will soon be filled with unworthy threads.

Does that mean I actually get the opportunity to crucify Jesus Christ in the name of our almighty Lord Satan?


Well, back on the subject, so this has no scientific evidence, right? Now, I don't think this thread even belongs on the Symposium.

Has anyone thought they were probably going to do the months after it, but ended up dying instead and just happened to stop there?
I mean, they could have written it to 3000 AD, and then got wiped out or something... and people would pinpoint that as the doomsday.

I think some legitimate discussion of the prophecies of apocalypse from the Mayans can be held, but the manner in which this topic was presented is very crass, given the section it's posted in.

I believe that the Mayans just decided to stop doing the calender at that exact date. I have a book of Calenders and it stops at 2048. Does it means that the world ends at 2048?? I don't think so.

Well, that's just my opinion. I'm open to other opinions.

If these heart-eating savages were so smart, how come they got their shit wrecked by the Spaniards?

Swords, cannons, guns, disease (Biggest killer there)...Typical stuff of genocide.

Because they trusted the Spaniards. The stuff Path mentions is the how, that's the why.

And they were smart.

I have no doubt that they were fairly smart in some areas, but I don't think we should trust them on the whole doomsday issue. They weren't the most scientific of tribes.

No, I don't think anyone is suggesting that...

The fact that they were devastated by a culture that had superior weapons of warfare does nothing to discredit their suggestion, but rather the fact that this supposition was most likely the result of superstition.

The Spanish were smarter than Mayans in some areas, and Mayans in others, though probably not in calculating the year of Doomsday.

Not a good idea for a topic?? This has been my most common subject matter over the years!


The Mayans predicted it, the Bible Code predicts it, the internet bot predicts it--and by "it," I mean the end-times that are to occur December 21, 2012.


By which, I mean, I've often touted myself as the savior of humanity in the aftermath in which will be a new ruling goverment system sorta like a Democracy, but better, which I shall dub a "Meganocracy" (the details of which I have not fully determined). Eugenics will be of primary concern as will be a "sterilization" of "past problems" with nuclear weapons used to "clense" various parts of the earth.

Yeah, I know, it's been a while, but some of the older members (Throgrim, Alexanderthegreat, etc) may recall my ramblings.


I personally "don't believe" in the end-times predictions, but find the coincidences in the predictions to be extremely interesting, and I remain hopeful. Yes, you read right, "hopeful" that the world will be destroyed and allowed to start anew.

In the year 2385, at 3:15 PM on a fourth Saturday of the year, Jesus him self will come down and party with us.

Why should I believe the world will end in 2012? Cause some ancient civilization said so?

There is a red Indian prophecy about 2012 too but the prophecy says the world won't be renewed this time.

I don't believe it but it sounds interesting though.

If we are to discuss about "why did all these people predict it that way?" it might be a worthy discussion, but since there is no evidence about the hypothesis, it's a waste of time to discuss whether or not Doomsday is really going to be that day. Wait, the matter of the existence of God is very similar; no evidence, and we still discuss those things... probably because religion has been so successful in propagating its argument that we can't just dismiss the idea of God as "utter dumbfuckery" as we do to this Doomsday whatever thing.

There's a major difference between doomsday and God. One way or another, doomsday will eventually exist.

Why this exact date? So on December 20, 2012, everything will be normal as it is, then the next day, everything will be destroyed? I highly doubt that. If the world is going to be destroyed on that exact date, then it must be a process of several things leading up to that date.

Besides, someone said that the world won't be renewed this time. What happened the last times?

Depends on what you mean by Doomsday. Yes, Earth will explode within a several billion years, but we don't know exactly about the Universe. I've heard of a theory that says it will stop expanding and start to shrink back to a tiny spot, though(it's the only one I've heard about the ending of the Universe, and I can't recall any evidence supporting it).

It's a red Indian prophecy. The world has been renewed 9 times and this one will be the last. I remember watching that on the History Channel.

You're taking it way more seriously than it deserves.

Ideally the discussion of this thread should remain specifically on the topic of the Mayan (and I suppose "the Bible code" too) prediction of end of the world.

I disagree. Ideally, we may turn this into something more worthwhile than a discussion about predictions without any evidence that bears no more meaning than my prediction that Deicide's next album is going to suck.

Are you sure that when you say "red indians" that you don't mean "Mayans?" Because that sounds an awful lot like the ancient Mayans.

Nevermind that it is stated in the code of conduct to stay on topic...

Well, yeah, actually the ideal situation would be the thread getting locked.

Hmm, okay. What happened the last 9 times it was renewed?



Probably.