You'll have to wait in line like the rest of us. If it's really metal, it shouldn't take that long for it to be approved. Unless I'm mistaken, it usually only takes that long if the mods need to discuss whether or not it's actually metal.

As previously stated, I already went through the line once. Also as previously stated, the issue was not whether or not the band is metal, but whether or not sufficient proof exists of their released material. Did you read my post before responding to it?

Of course I did. As a matter of fact, I had the same problem myself a few days ago. But of course, no band can get priority over another, no matter if it's been submitted before or not, and no matter the reason it was rejected.

Much appreciated, I shall await judgement

Is this being reviewed? Like - should I continue bumping this post? I only ask because I've been bumping this post for several pages now and unless I missed something (could have, I don't know) it hasn't been acknowledged either way.

hello,
recently a sublabel of Avantgrade Music have released an album of the band "Lumnos" from Brazil already blacklisted.
can this band be revalutated as Metal Band with this new release?
https://flowingdownward.bandcamp.com/al ... -of-saturn

Gonna say "no" with the initial listen of the first two songs, one song had barely any audible guitars and both have interludes of questionable length. As always with these Barsabarian Hill's types, I'll edit this post once it goes full streaming for a final answer.

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First off to the two dudes at the top of this page; no. Wait with everyone else, there is no magic wand or order in which we get to each band. There's also over 250 bands in the queue right now. These things take time, patience is a virtue.

Second; non mods stop answering questions please, it only confuses things.... artery knows what he's doing.

Third; of this night I'm looking into you submission currently. I'll need to confer with some other people because there's no new material and the blacklisting was due to musical reasons.

Different band with the same name. Temporarily unblacklisted.

Blacklist Appeal: Crawl from San Antonio, Texas - (Split with Leviathan/Jef Whitehead)
https://crawl.bandcamp.com/album/crawl-lvthn-split

A brand new 9 pure minutes of his usual brand of bass-powerchord filled blackened sludge/funeral doom (+ blastbeats), and a 3 minute ambient guitar outro.
This is a much stronger majority metal-to-ambient ratio than his last works. I totally understand if he's rejected again on the same grounds of disputing the validity of the "metal," though I am personally hoping for a reconsideration on that point with this particular appeal.

I was informed that every new release could be used for an appeal, but if I'm told that I must cease repealing Crawl unless he drastically changes his sound or compositional style then I will obey and do just that.

Thanks!

Why was Human Varmint (https://humanvarmint.bandcamp.com/album/impending-death) deemed not metal? this songs were written for Linfogranulomatosis inguinalis which is on the site (not comparing bands but is worth mentioning) meaning they are in the vein of death metal / grindcore, more death than grindcore.

Rejection note says:

"Not a metal band; does not belong on Encyclopaedia Metallum. Please read (or re-read) our rules next time to see what qualifies as metal."

Can the moderators reconsider it?

I can tell you exactly why I rejected it:
track one - non metal intro
track two - borderline metal, probably acceptable
track three - non metallic grind

I want other moderator's opinion on this if is not too much to ask for, thanks.

i know body count had controversy with the song "cop killer" but that was in response to the police assaults that were rising in L.A. at the time, so why are they "blacklisted" like they were convicted murderers or something?

Use the search function

Erosion asked me to take a second look at this.

I agree completely with his original assessment. I'd perhaps even add that the non-metal stuff is practically noise at points.

The band will need to produce a metal album before it can be accepted here. This album is not sufficient.

Fair enough thanks.

i would imagine that was a lot of my older stuff, which i would even admit that is true..
things have picked up for me, especially as of lately. getting around to my recording program a lot more and eventually got the proper aggression out..
this is one of my recent releases, i am willing to even submit even more recent ones as well, which are all far from what i did before.

https://youtu.be/DJ3hMMtdGKk

I noticed that now the band Human Varmint is Black listed, that's what it took to get it black listed? one submission?

Punk-based grind. Only one track out of the lot is Metal.

When bands get rejected for musical reasons, i.e. not being metal, they automatically go to the blacklist so we don't have to deal with them being resubmitted.

What does it matter? Our minds aren't going to change unless they release something decidedly metal.

Hello guys I got following error for my band "Pornthegore". We played in the early days Noisecore and were denied for Metal Archives but now we are playing Groovy Goregrind with Death Metal elements but we got that error. What to do? Is it possible to change the status from the blacklist?

Well, the band was actually blacklisted only the day before yesterday, so apparently your more recent material was also considered and judged to be too grind for the site.

How can this be? Because I linked our new CD today and not the day before yesterday. Maybe the admin didn't listen to our new stuff? There are more grindy bands on Metal Archives than us.

Give it a try: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4fZl7HBPxg

You linked it where exactly? The submission that got them blacklisted was done by another user, that's not unusual. And it included a link to that album.

I just checked it out on Bandcamp and it seems ambiguous. Grind is not really my forte anyway, so I'll leave this one to another mod. As for using included bands as an argument, read the first post.

Here it is the bandcamp link: https://rottenrollrex.bandcamp.com/albu ... nt-dickula - is that the included link to the album?

Thank you for send it to another mod.

Our album includes more metal elements than for example Squirtophobic (https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Sq ... 3540285486) and this band is also on MA.

I'm the blacklisting mod so I've been asked to chime in.

I believe this to be ambiguous as well but ultimately more in the vein of unacceptable grind/noise/core tban rooted in death metal which is what we require. For a bit more info here your band was previously submitted and rejected, though not blacklisted, for ambiguous musical samples. Based on my feelings and another mod having previously rejecting this for the music i blacklisted it.

Dear Metal-Archives,

I have repeatedly seen the famous Japanese band Dir En Grey blacklisted (even in the article about metalness). It is true that Dir En Grey was a visual kei band from around 1997 - 2005 and a nu metal band in 2007 (The Marrow Of A Bone Era), but the latest releases (Uroboros 2008/2012 remastered, Dum Spiro Spero 2011 and Arche 2014) are clearly metal (by 2007 they generally stopped with the visuals and by 2008 they became a progressive metal band). Particularly Dum Spiro Spero (2011) contains many elements from technical death metal.

Here are the different Dir En Grey Phases to clearly depict their transformation to metal:

Early Dir En Grey (Visual Kei Non-Metal Era):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzZ77IXLhRk (Song: Embryo from Kisou - 2002)

Mid Era Dir En Grey (Transformation phase to a heavier sound):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOWByiLh5XU (Song: Merciless Cult from Withering to Death -2005: Last album/Era with Visual Kei elements. It already contains more metallic traces)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rmy0eok251o (Song: Agitated Screams of Maggots from The Marrow Of A Bone - 2007: Clearly heavier than the previous album, but still more Nu Metal than true metal)

Late Era Dir En Grey (Progressive Metal):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APITF3yAvGQ (Song: Vinushka from Uroboros - 2008: Depicts the beginnings of their more metal progressive sound. This, however, is one of their softer modern songs)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6K-9K2voHA (Song: Different Sense from Dum Spiro Spero - 2011: This clearly shows traits from technical death metal and many other metal genres. This song is from their heaviest album to date).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AvGJgpRj9s (Song: Midwife from Arche - 2014: Also showcases their heavier prog metal sound)

I hope this list of example demonstrates their change of sound in a clear way. If you want any other info regarding Dir En Grey, please tell me. In case the band still does not qualify as metal, please tell me why

Yours sincerely,

Metalfan99

That's really weird, I could've sworn I'd seen them on here before...

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Basically this. But to be concise at most, they are just janky nu-metal. At most.



Lol nope, they've been blacklisted since before at least 2012.

Don´t understand why this this rejected my band for not bein "too" metal. Obviusly I am requesting in a polite way. I send an EP that was realized digitaly. We were influenced and covered too MAlmstenn and Dream Theatre. the most important thing you and every body in the forum to listen to if it is metal or not. Obvoulsy we do not sound as Dying Fetus or Cannibal Corpse.

TEMPO EP (2005):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGgT5TFVDKc

I also ´ve been listening to similar bands tagged in you site as classical influenced abnd and ain´t no so big difference in the intention and influences with the band I try to submit TEMPO.

I think that term would make sense for their 2007 era, but not for their last 3 albums. The progressive metal elements can clearly be heard.

The band's entire career has been assessed already, metalfan99. Please agree to disagree.

Ok I understand. Nevertheless, please take out the Visual kei branding on the metalness Page. I accept that they Sound too alternative/nu Metal to be considered true metal, but they clearly are not Visual kei anymore

I mean, Dir En Grey were one of the forefront bands for the modern Visual Kei scene. Even is they do their own thing, removing them would be like not mentioning Metallica in lists about the bay area theash scene.

Ok that makes sense I just thought that most people still call Dir En Grey Visual kei, because they haven't listened to the new stuff. I was wrong. To mention their Visual kei roots is completely logical Thanks for clarifying this

That's a hell of a lotta smiley emojis you got going there