I'm not in a band... You're clearly a tool and your hostility toward my originslly ambivalent approach is why I am now being a dick. The better part of a day is not the 30 seconds it took for each of my 6 or 7 posts an I will not be contributing anything to your site in the future based on how immature and shitty you clearly all are. Grow up dude. Being a dick right off the bat to anyone and everyone is not going to get you far.

Not a metal band, will not be added to this site. This thread isn't for discussion. End of conversation.

Id like to unblack list Lidande (USA) to add the released CD "Departure" on Woodbound Records (SWE)

with additional information and that is all, I have pictures included.

please let me re submit and take it from there.

Post all that sutff here so we can take a look at it first my man.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/j8i8jtl5 ... eMadre.rar

here is the link to the new CD version, tape version is sold out/out of print limited to 16

www.lidandeband.bandcamp.com is were you can digital buy and stream

here are some reviews

“The inspiring but also twisted musical world of Lidande is hard to describe in words. At first, the lack of vocals - with few exceptions - was something I found kind of disturbing, but later on embracing as this is the perfect soundtrack of a day devoted to self reflection. The more ambient and atmospheric tracks fit as interludes between cold, raw tracks, to be followed by yet another slow paced tunes - either raw or melodic, hence repeat. As stated above view the words of Lidande as the perfect soundtrack of self reflection.”
— / Gabrielson / 1853 (ex-Lifelover ex-Vanhelga, ex-Eskapi, Glädjekällor)

I bring this to attention for one particular track - 'Fading in and Out of Worthlessness', though the whole demo is worth a listen. Rarely does black metal get more obscure sounding as this. Interestingly, necro666 draws comparison to the disintegration loops, which I think is due to the very lo-fi production, dreamy atmosphere and almost falling apart arrangements. Though it's just a simple demo, it transcends negative emotions in a way few others could manage.”
— -Into the Void

“Less is more? Sure, especially when talking about production of lo-fi-desintegration loops-black metal. Maybe this is depressive black metal for real, but the amount of frost consuming every buzzing riff and vocals, which sound like footsteps recorded somewhere in Spitsbergen position Lidande in lo-fi ambient territory - and I mean lo-fi! The barely recognizable songs are roughly sketched, while translucent melancholic harmonies drift freely. Actually I find this hazy shoegaze music as distant from metal territory highly as hypnotizing, with references to Jewelled Antler crew.”
— -Necro666


All the photos are on the media fire and its simple

Manny - Vocals, All Instruments
Alex - Guitars, Drums

Depressive Black Metal, topics: Deprivation, Pain, Depression

What is objectivly metal?
The rules say the genres such as deathcore and metalcore are not metal, however, what musical ideas must be preformed?
I assume the reason why some deathcore bands are denied because they comprise mostly of breakdowns, however breakdowns are not surprisingly common in every genre, from sufforcation to mirrorthrone.
Wouldn't a true encyclopedia hold all the information available, or is this encyclopedia just for the thrash/black/death and surprisingly to say the least, groove metal, one edition in a list of every metal band?

Hi mods,

Lo! (Australia) has released a new album called Vestigial. I think this album might qualify them to be presented on the site.
It's really hard to categorize their style, but it clearly has many post/sludge metal elements.
There is an album stream, but it's hidden on YT, so I do not know if it'd be a fair move to post the stream here.

Waiting for your reply regarding this issue.

Can Expurgatory (Australia) be whitelisted for the greater black metal content on the latest album, Interrobang?

https://expurgatory.bandcamp.com/album/interrobang

Why is Wynken Delirium (Malaysia/Finland) blacklisted? They sound like a cross of Acid Bath, Crowbar and Kylesa's less psychedelic tracks with the inclusion of traditional South East Asian folk instruments.

Here are a few tracks and a bandcamp page for the admin to consider.




Bandcamp: https://wynkendelirium.bandcamp.com/

Read them again, because that's not quite what they're saying.


Riffs. Of the metal variety.


Breakdowns aren't categorically forbidden. Nor are any other individual musical characteristics. It's when whatever it is becomes more dominant in the music than the metal riffs.


We strive to be a metal database, thus documenting metal bands, as assessed as such by us. We exclude non-metal, as assessed as such by us. You see, the mindblowing fact is that there can be a difference of opinion when it comes to exact lines between music genres. So you formulating this loaded question as if we're somehow being disingenuious in our duties as an encyclopaedia doesn't work.


Bullseye. That's why you won't find any other genres than those listed. Oh, wait.


erm, what?

Read, think, then post. Thanks.


Feel free to PM me the link.


I don't know. Maybe?


"Grungy noise/alternative/stoner rock or something" Pre-2011/12 note, I'll check out this new album.

Instead of asking about your 2006 album again and again, perhaps you should write a new album about dealing with rejection. That seems to be something you need to understand better.

hello,
recently i have tryed to upload the band Profligate (ITA), but it was rejected for those reasons:
A band needs a valid release before they can be accepted to the site

all info here:
http://metalforum.forumcommunity.net/?t=14713132
https://myspace.com/profligateband
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kE7XJHVlYFA
https://www.jamendo.com/album/52079/not ... anguage=it
http://forum.metal.it/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=27613

this is my google drive link where i have uploaded all the files gived me from Stefano Rossi the founder of the band, https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Byksr ... HlWRjhUNUU

i have no links of multiple copies or distros, cd's were sold to live concerts but havn't a proper online distribution. but i think if the previous name Project:Denial was accepted without any releases, i think can be accepted this band.unfortunately the official website where evrybody can download it it's closed, was: http://www.profligate.it

i hope we can find a way to accept them, are more "VALID" for the M.A. rules than Project:Denial (already on metal archivies), i can put moderators in contact with Stefano Rossi, founder of the band

Wynken Delirium whitelisted.

@Profligate: Okay, I think this is okay as far as digital distribution goes. You said there were CD copies given away at shows as well?


If it was, that's an oversight; we don't intentionally accept bands without releases. There is a demo listed in the additional notes. Is that not correct?

@Azmodes
yes, the"Abnormal Ethical Injection" demo exist, but until today i have thinked we need more information to accept, but that's not the point. I understand older uploads were less controlled and M.A. (probably) accept more random bands than now - maybe no, that's not so important (how M.A. works in the past).

About Profligate, yes they distribute the cd to live concerts, not a complete PRO done, all was printed on local typography/graphic factories. all cdr's but with a cd graphic on it,jewel case and great quality of paper ( no xeroxed stuff).

if you think digital distribution from the (already closed) official website it's valid we can add it as other version?

thanks for the fast reply, i try to re-sumbit.

P.S. meantime i have added lyrical themes

Mind if I ask where the uncertainty lies?

Never knew that 15 copies is unacceptable. Am i missing something here? Very well then give me your email address i will send you the whole tracks and you judge it yourself. There are presumably 3 true black metal tracks in the cd.

PM sent.

Where are you failing to understand? You're being told no, not acceptable yet again. Sending us tracks we've already heard will not change anything. He is telling you the release is not acceptable.

The band Witiko is blacklisted, i asume for being more noise in their first EP, they released another album with more black metal elements. can you give it a listen guys?

https://witiko.bandcamp.com/album/the-evil-that-devours

Yes and no. While there have admittedly been periods throughout the site's history where more questionable stuff has been accepted than during others (and I won't deny that the site's very early days yielded a lot of dubiousness), in general our rules haven't changed. You have to keep in mind that while the entry is quite bare-bones, at the time it was reviewed and approved there would have been additional information that is no longer there. Moderators nowadays can still view a band's submission notes (which are invisible to regular users), however everything from before v2 (pre-2011) is no longer available. In the absence of any evidence to the contrary, we have to assume that the Project:Denial entry is valid, as it was approved.


Yes.


Sounded a bit rough and noisy, though I'd say yes. I will ask for more mod opinions. EDIT: Whitelisted.


It's more the combination of factors. Shoddy release, borderline music, etc. If you want to email me the entire demo, please do. My address is at the bottom of this post. @Eros: I think we only had one track to judge the first time.


Blacklisting still sounds accurate for the most part.

The band "Corpses" (Greece) is blacklisted, but their recent full-length album is pretty much Death 'n' Roll as opposed to the more punky sounding previous split release. Could you give it a listen? https://corpses.bandcamp.com

Ok sure, some death core, and metalcore.



Yes, but that is quite vague, can you provide a better example?



Okay, you seem to misunderstand the term "riff" A riff is is a line of notes that isn't meant to be interpreted as harmonic structure. Whats denotes a 'metal riff"



However you fail to actual denote anything metal besides the term "Metal Riff"



Bullseye, my prior point.



I'm not going to bring up a grammatical argument but I guess a semi-colon would have been in order to separate one idea from the other. However, if you can interpret English, you'll know I was trying to elaborate on the idea that this is Letter B of a series of encyclopedias (By the way that is an analogy)

Cheers. Have submitted Expurgatory to the queue.

INFANT ANNIHILATOR
So I know this has been discussed, but I dont get it. the search function reason that these guys are blacklisted or whatever is too many breakdowns, technically considered metalcore or something similar and therefore not metal enough for the archives. I see what people are getting at, but it still doesnt fully check out with me since infant annihilator is obviously, definitely, overwhelmingly a metal band. slap whatever genre label you like, tech death, grind, metalcore...but dont cut them short on the grounds that they use too many breakdowns, or are too "core". there is no other site they could possibly belong to save for this one, it just makes too much sense. their name, logo, artwork, lyrics, vocal style, instrumentation...all unmistakenly metal. Final thought: I love black metal, favorite genre by far. Im no stranger to black/ambient, and while i agree most dark/black ambient bands have a distinct metal influence, its beyond a stretch to call some of these bands metal, yet they remain on the site while a band that is so painfully unmistakably metal is left out. point is i enjoy lots of ambient projects, but wouldnt label them metal at all. if youre going to allow ambient/noise projects here but veto a band based on too many breakdowns, or rather what unfortunate subgenre they get lumped into, then I have to call foul. theyre an amazingly talented METAL band, brutal/tech death with grindcore elements if you want...but theyre one of the sickest bands on the scene right now, and undoubtedly deserve a spot in the archives, moreso than many groups on here already. fuck, nachtmystiums latest album is closer to post rock than a metal album. /rant

Yes i dont understand, since 13 krieg is fit with all the necessary criteria that the metallum need, but still it is not acceptable. Why?

The latter musik of 13 krieg which i provided is truly black metal. Just ignore the 2 crust punk songs on the earlier split release as the other songs on the latter demo is 100% black metal in nature. It is a valid release and it does exist although only 15pcs but it still existed physically.

Why cant you whitelist a band which does release a physical black metal cdr?

If there is a time frame to do the whitelist, tell me so and for how long then i would probably undrstand. Your reason as of yet is not satisfactory.

Can Hadal (Australia) be whitelisted on the basis of the higher metalness levels of the latest album?

https://hadalsounds.bandcamp.com/album/ ... ile-member

That question arise regularly, which is understandable. The second part of this post addresses a similar inquiry. I'm pretty sure I've broached the subject on other occasions in this forum, but I can't find the relevant posts right now.





Sorry, but I still have no idea what you mean.

Complete and utter lack of understanding of how this site operates, plus a good portion of all the lazy, ignorant clichés this thread tends to deliver. You forgot to mention that IA aren't listed because we don't like them.

Read the first post and the rules next time. Fuck, I'm turning into Witcher here.

I think you should go easy on the irony in this thread. I'm sure 98% of IA fanboys will take that literally.

There is no real issue with the limitation in and of itself. The issue is that the first and second release have been determined not to be metal by the criteria this site operates by. Note where my emphasis is. Debating whether or not the definition of metal we operate by is correct here, in this topic, will get you nowhere - we can only really answer your questions, and the answer is that it is not a valid release due to the musical content.

You asked about time frame on whitelisting. There is none, but being on the list doesn't mean we won't evaluate new releases if and when the band continues to produce music. Should they release a solid metal full-length tomorrow they would be added in an instant. If we all agreed it was metal as defined by the archives then a limitation of 15 would not be a hindrance either.

Bumping again for good measure.

No, pretty much drone.


Done.

Can "Corpses" (Greece) be whitelisted on the basis of the higher metalness levels of the latest album?

https://corpses.bandcamp.com

Hey, so Symphony of Heaven does have physical copies of their album. The album comes out in a few weeks, but the copies are out for staff and fellow bands on the label. This is a picture of Children of Wrath's Luke Dinan's copy.

https://imgur.com/a/10278

wait until it is available to the public, that would be considered a private release in its current state.

I was trying to add Sludgemuffin, and it said it was blacklisted

https://sludgemuffin.bandcamp.com/

Sounds like pretty acceptable stoner/sludge/doom to me, but I don't know.

Still sounds very punky.


Sludgy punk.

caMon guys, why was CALQUES rejected? it's black metal with industrial elements. you have SUTEKH HEXEN, WOLD, GNAW THEIR TONGUES, AMERICAN etc, but CALQUES are more traditionally black metal than any of these bands!