I'd like to dispute the genre of Zhrine (death/black metal). While they utilise low growled vocals (along with high screams), as well as more palm-muted guitars and a thicker guitar sound than most black metal, in my estimation the music is strongly black metal at the core, in the same tradition as other Icelandic bands of their scene, like Svartidauði and Carpe Noctem. There is noticeably influence from death metal, but I think it's not enough to warrant their genre label naming 'death' first. I suggest it be changed to merely black metal, or at least it should be black/death metal, though I maintain that it would then still be incorrect.

Full album: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_SLL3- ... vNrXtsqfdP

Uh, no... Nargaroth is pretty straightforward Black Metal. It sounds quite atmospheric because, y'know, Black Metal IS atmospheric by nature. Atmosperic Black Metal as a genre is different.

Okay, thank you. It's their third album, in particular, that sounded more like atmospheric black to me but I see what you mean.

I want to request having Fallujah's genre changed http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Fallujah/3540255104

Right now it reads "Blackened Deathcore (early), Progressive/Technical Death Metal/Deathcore (later)"

...This feels a little weird and not entirely accurate (not mention messy and excessive). I believe this should all be changed simply to "deathcore (early), atmospheric death metal (later)".
My reasons for this are...

1) I hear absolutely NO "black metal" influence in their deathcore EP, I mean come on... do you? How is this "BLACKENED deathcore"?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alGc8M43cjA

2) yes their music is somewhat tech/progressive as a whole but this just rides on the backside to what could be called (and I believe what can be better described as...) "atmospheric death metal" as a whole. Synthesizers are present across EXTREMELY layered and reverb vocals layered across tons and tons of layered and melodic instruments, which are all grating down to what the band have even dubbed "atmospheric metal" even on their own Facebook page.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wxXMTQmAok
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ewm2ZnRq-9A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyRW8FTlp7o

Also after looking across a couple other bands on the archives, it seems that "atmospheric death metal" is indeed a valid genre on here, so why not put Fallujah in it? They fit perfectly with that description.

http://www.metal-archives.com/search/ad ... ame=#bands

So why not?

Heck! Am I in outer space?

Infected Disarray from UK. Genre says Tecnical Brutal Death Metal/Grindcore. Brutal death metal with little bit technical riffing is ok. But there is no grindcore riffing on their music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXUV61CArbY&app=desktop

Already reported it http://www.metal-archives.com/report/vi ... /show/mine

Two weeks and still nothing. Any thought on this?

Ecliptica deserves a "Hard Rock" tag added to their "Power Metal".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3u1yddjS7BM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmcZLByFaRw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF9nI7Jl4Cg

Oh god, yup. Hard Rock def needed in title. Can anybody scrape up the first two albums to see what sound they are in general? At the moment, I'm going to put it at Power/Heavy Metal/Hard Rock, but if the early albums were purely power metal, I think it could be changed to Power Metal (early), Heavy Metal/Hard Rock (later)



Houston, we have a genre change. You have finally landed. (Genre changed)



Okay, time do to this in pieces.
1. Eh, when there isn't an deathcore bits, there is some blackened influence. I would say it would be enough.

2.



Calling it a "valid genre" would be pushing it. It would be having a descriptor. Most of the time the atmospheric for like the Death/Doom metal bands are more for the doom side. Granted, I haven't heard any of these bands, I'm not going to when it comes to Fallujah, I'm just going to this to it by it's own merits.



Dude, you've been around here long enough to know we don't care what the bands call themselves.

Okay, while I agree with you the reverb and layering of guitars does make it atmospheric along with the melodic bits in the solos and the semi-ambient bits, it would be silly not to take into account the guitar work which puts it in the Technical death metal side of things. Lots of the clean guitar work goes onto Cynic-inspired levels in terms of fretwork. Also, saying the technical/progressive riffs take a backside is stupid with songs like: Levitation, Prison of the Mind, The Flame Surreal. Yes, there are keyboards, yes Dreamless has more, but there is still so much Technical/Progressive riffs in each song that putting it down to "Atmospheric Death Metal" would be like well, just calling Emperor "Black Metal" (yes, I am aware that is what it is on the archives, but frankly, it is wrong.). Yes, there is melodic solos, but, fortunately, we don't rate bands by the solo. As it is, for the later genre, it stays. But yeah, they have progressing to have more keybaords, maybe when like, every other song in an album is like Silent from Nomadic than maybe it will get to "Atmospheric Technical/Progressive Death Metal/Deathcore" as it is, not right now cus' Tech/Prog guitars.



Yup, that is like Bon Jovi levels of rock there.

Still needs checking

What about mine?

I've got a few that I previously posted that still need checking too and a couple of them are a month old. I know you guys are busy, but I've had multiple more recent wrong genre reports that I've posted to this thread that have already been resolved, so I think these other posts may have been overlooked. I'd appreciate a response on these when someone among the mods with relevant expertise has a chance:

It's not entirely about being busy; nobody really wants to deal with genre changes, they can be a pain in the ass. I'll try to get these sorted out soon.

Last bump:


Please consider the "Blackened Thrash Metal" tag if that sounds more appropiate.

The band Deafened just released their second album and it's pretty different from the first one, being "Depressive Black Metal." The genre needs to be updated with Psychedelic Black/Stoner/Doom Metal in it, or something of that sort.

https://deafeneddsbm.bandcamp.com/
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Deafened/3540373701

Most taken care of. Ilwhyan, as an aside, the order of genres should not be considered meaningful.

Thanks. Noted.

Svartkraft

I don't think the term "Black Metal" does fit their last recording. "IV - Ruin" is based on black metal, yes, but there are only a few straight black metal parts on it. But I have no idea how to call it, actually..


Full album stream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoSIXewqfLo

Víctimas de Víctimas

An argentinian band that started as a classic thrash metal act (late 90's) and then moved to alt-rock:

From demo 98:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQVgFxmgBGg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4H3A6LsclcI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=in6pDsRR7gY

2007 albums:
https://losalevososvictimasdevictimas.b ... s-animadas
https://losalevososvictimasdevictimas.b ... l-solplido

2013 album:
https://losalevososvictimasdevictimas.b ... -mi-alma-3

Toter Fisch could need a change from Folk Metal to Folk/Death Metal


https://toterfisch.bandcamp.com/album/yemaya

EDIT:
And Blaine Rohmer might need a Dark Metal tag.

https://blainer.bandcamp.com/

Atrocious. And changed.

Nesseria (http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Nesseria/3540315266), a french band referred to as "Death/Black Metal/Grindcore".
There isn't any Death Metal element in Nesseria, who actually started as Mathcore/Grindcore then expressed more and more Black Metal influences through the years.

Thus I suggest "Mathcore/Grindcore/Black Metal", or "Mathcore/Grindcore (early), Mathcore/Grindcore/Black Metal (later)" but this one sounds quite redundant, right ?

Links to begin with : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6wkp4E1mZ0 (live 2016, track 2004)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTbIbSmUfUQ (first s/t album, 2009)

Thanks for Your interest.

Cowards (http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Cowards/3540348242) is listed as a "Sludge/Black Metal" band when in fact they've never played Black Metal at all. There is of course Grind/Doom/Black Metal influences, but these are not the core of their music.
I guess something more accurate would be "Sludge/Hardcore".

2012 track : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XesW7KAzWaM
2016 EP : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uAw6S8rXvI

Revenge (Canada) has a very prominent grindcore aspect to them. I believe the current black/death metal tag needs to be updated to something like black/death/grindcore.


Behold.Total.Rejection is almost completely based on hyperblasting with shrill vocals & some goregrind gurgles thrown on top:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5qrDCU ... yfh-jZp8Lx

Rest in Peace is listed as Technical Speed Metal, but I think there is enough thrash metal to add it to their genre, making it Technical Speed/Thrash Metal.

Their demo Inner Scream: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxpRgQSvg8k

I second this, but also think that "Technical Thrash Metal" describe their genre even better.
This sounds a lot like the Artillery/Watchtower most technical albums.
The fast rhythms of speed metal are entirely absent, as most of their music are mid-tempo thrash breaks/riffs with clean vocals.

Planet of Zeus (listed as Southern/Stoner Metal)
Their latest stuff is more rock- than metal-based.
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Pla ... 3540255018
https://planetofzeus.bandcamp.com/album ... the-pack-2

Forporgent

Listed as Melodic Death Metal/Metalcore

Their last album is straight (Brutal) Death Metal.

Early stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pdd3-UJNkR8

Latest album: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHZQU_o8oW8

Can we get a less ambiguous genre for Imperial Circus Dead Decadance?

We have them listed as "extreme metal" but that's not terribly descriptive. If I had to narrow down ICDD's sound though I'd say they're Symphonic Death/Power Metal.

My recommended listening for determining their sounds are the 10th song on this album
https://imperialcircusdeaddecadence.ban ... om/album/-

The second song on this EP
https://imperialcircusdeaddecadence.ban ... /album/--3

And the first song on this EP
https://imperialcircusdeaddecadence.ban ... /album/--2

Beyond Our Ruins

Listed as "Melodic Heavy Metal". I don't know about their debut demo, but the full length sounds like Melodic Doom/Death Metal to me.

https://beyondourruins.bandcamp.com/alb ... adful-oath

Yeah, not exactly vanilla black metal, but I'm not sure if it warrants splitting the genre for that last album. Seems good enough as it is.


I think Toter Fisch is fine as it is. As for Blaine Rohmer, we don't use "dark metal" anymore.

Changed.



Changed. It's more power metal than generic "extreme" metal.



Both of these sound like metalcore...

It has been a long time since I have asked a question, on here. But about a month ago (Dave) aka/Vladimyr saw my FB link and befriended me (since I was the one who had added him, back in 2007); and tonight we were talking a few hours, and some changes I were able to make just fine, on the band page. The problem I am having, and it may be a rank issue(?), but, when his band started, it was straight up Black Metal........ how do I, or can an Admin (keep) the Black Metal as (earlier), but also add to that genre to be with his last album Return of the Dragon-Ant as either Brutal Death, due to vocal-style? (or) Melodic Death Metal? He tells me he prefers it "Melodic". It is a very complex album. With (Dragon-Ant), he wanted to take it in a different direction, as it is now just him in Vladimyr Bathory.

His M-A band page is here: http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Vla ... hory/84539

Links to earlier (Black Metal): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPNAc6n ... e=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7fpKadtU58

Return of the Dragon-Ant: https://www.7digital.com/artist/vladimy ... nt-5605559

Could someone take care of the genre of this band?

How about changing the genre of Worthless (USA) to Depressive Black Metal?

MA: http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Wor ... 3540400836

Bandcamp: https://worthlessofficial.bandcamp.com

Any progress?

I read your linked comments on this from 2013 as well and this is useful to know. On a related note, how about commas? Some bands have a comma in their genre description that seems to imply a genre shift over the course of their career (e.g. "Melodic Black Metal, Melodic Death Metal" for Dissection). Other similarly classified bands separate genres in their listed genre description with a slash, which seems to imply a hybrid style consisting of roughly equal amounts of each of the listed genres throughout their career (e.g. "Melodic Black/Death Metal" for Thulcandra). This apparent dynamic is complicated by the existence of other bands whose genre descriptions clearly indicate a genre shift over the course of a band's career (e.g. "Melodic Death Metal (early), Melodic Black Metal (later)" for Dawn). Are any of these inferences I've made accurate or are commas largely stylistic preferences and not meaningful for genre classification purposes on this website?

Man, re-reading that old post, something had really crawled up my ass before I posted that. Guess in hindsight I should've toned it down a bit.

YourGodIsDead, that is a bit trickier to answer. Ideally, the difference between a hypothetical band tagged as "Black/Death Metal" and one tagged as "Black Metal, Death Metal" would be that the first performs a mix of the two throughout their entire output, while the second one more distinctively (and mutually exclusively) switches styles between releases (though in such a way that would make (early)/(later) notation impractical or at least really messy). It's also possible that a band with the comma variant switches between the two genres on a single release, but does so in a fashion that very clearly separates the two, i.e. there are black metal songs and there are death metal songs, but no black/death metal songs. Then it's worth mentioning that the comma approach tends to happen more often with non-metal (or rather non-rock) vs. metal genres, than it does with metal vs. metal ones, probably in order to formally emphasise the greater musical difference and/or reflect the inherent greater difficulty in blending them like you can blend, for instance, black/death, death/thrash or even rarer brews like doom/power (still, in which case the aforementioned strict "complementarity" of genres across songs or entire releases need not necessarily apply!). Things tend to get nitpicky at that point and I'm probably projecting a lot of my personal preferences in treating the genre field by now. Anyway. In many other (especially older) cases the comma is simply interchangeable with the slash. Nothing more to it. It's not entirely consistent either way and here's a (less grumpy) post of mine going into detail as to why.

Do not take this analysis as the one and only official style guide to MA genres. Different mods, different strokes; I'm pretty sure if you asked Morrigan or HellBlazer, they'd tell you that there isn't really much of a difference at all and that I'm overthinking this.

There are quite a lot Progressive Rock elements in Threshold's music throughout their entire career, enough to tag 'em as a Progressive Metal/Rock band;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNZ9DM3 ... vG_R0Wq3ML
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNWeHzJ ... vG_R0Wq3ML
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00wzKHO ... vG_R0Wq3ML
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0NOA8d ... vG_R0Wq3ML

I'd be OK with that. Any other mods care to chime in?

User is (as usual) asking for the staff to take another look oat this. I'm not familiar with the band/style, but I know some of you are.