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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 3:48 am 
 

Blacklist note cited 'more core than metal'. Almost certainly regarding their discography at an earlier point in time, because this recent album you posted is some solid, riffy thrash. Go ahead and submit.

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TheLoneForest
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 2:31 pm 
 

My band "A Perfect Day" has been blacklisted due to it being more ambient/acoustic than metal. Please give my newest EP a listen. There will be more songs coming up, as I upload them.

http://aperfectday.bandcamp.com/album/a ... ty-of-dawn

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HeadbangXd
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 11:26 am 
 

A Spanish Progressive/Modern Melodic Death Metal called band G-noma was unexplained rejected, and it seems unfair that similar bands were accepted like Threat Signal, The Unguided, Sonic Syndicate, Crossfaith (even this band is not metal at all), Solution. 45 etc.

Just Listen the band, is clearly metal!:
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFqSMjoIg_k
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPmyO5c3Zlg
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZ6E9ahKd4o
-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoJiYxelGTs


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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 4:21 am 
 

Regarding G-Noma: Blacklist note cites 'mallcore', but the samples I listened to are honestly not passable anyway. The "Band X is accepted why not us!?" argument is not a valid one by the way. I'll play along for a moment and say that Solution .45, while extremely borderline, are definitely more metal than this stuff. Sorry dude.

Regarding Another Perfect Day: This isn't really my 'specialty' but I did listen to it. The first and second tracks on their own seem passable. The production really makes it hard to hear the riffs, but they sound metal enough...the keyboards remind me of Blood Stain Child. The third track is too ambient. You say 'More as I upload them'. Are you saying this isn't the finalized tracklisting?

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Carlotr
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 8:34 am 
 

The register of my band was denied because of the style, I can reverse it?

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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 10:54 am 
 

What's the band? If there is a recent change in style it is possible...

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Zephyr2109
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:57 pm 
 

My band Avalon Steel was rejected because our release was too short, but I was under the impression that a physical release was ok. Am I wrong? I did read the rules, and unless I missed something, I thought I read that a physical release, even under the required 20 minutes, is valid.

Thanks for your time!

EDIT: I'm stupid, somehow glazed over the "provide proof of physical" part, here is an imgur link, if this is the wrong place to post this, let me know and I can delete this post and use the correct methods.

http://imgur.com/rXkd17x

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 1:17 pm 
 

Zephyr2109 wrote:
My band Avalon Steel was rejected because our release was too short, but I was under the impression that a physical release was ok. Am I wrong? I did read the rules, and unless I missed something, I thought I read that a physical release, even under the required 20 minutes, is valid.

Thanks for your time!

EDIT: I'm stupid, somehow glazed over the "provide proof of physical" part, here is an imgur link, if this is the wrong place to post this, let me know and I can delete this post and use the correct methods.

http://imgur.com/rXkd17x

Exactly, that's the crucial piece of evidence that was missing. ;) It looked like a digital-only band. You can resubmit the band (don't worry about the post here).
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Zephyr2109
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 1:24 pm 
 

Azmodes wrote:
Zephyr2109 wrote:
My band Avalon Steel was rejected because our release was too short, but I was under the impression that a physical release was ok. Am I wrong? I did read the rules, and unless I missed something, I thought I read that a physical release, even under the required 20 minutes, is valid.

Thanks for your time!

EDIT: I'm stupid, somehow glazed over the "provide proof of physical" part, here is an imgur link, if this is the wrong place to post this, let me know and I can delete this post and use the correct methods.

http://imgur.com/rXkd17x

Exactly, that's the crucial piece of evidence that was missing. ;) It looked like a digital-only band. You can resubmit the band (don't worry about the post here).


Thank you, just resubmitted!

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mjollnir
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 8:08 pm 
 

Not one to jump on here but I was just wondering about a rejection. I linked the Bandcamp page to the EP released. I know the current release is only a single and the previous EP was not quite 20 minutes but can we take another look? Thanks!

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Nox ... 3540382805
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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 4:10 am 
 

Azmodes wrote:
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Why have Vargr from Sweden been deleted? Though it is more of dark ambient/noise now, at least 4 first releases are strictly black metal.

Can you link to samples from these releases?

http://listen.20buckspin.com/album/nort ... -supremacy
really low-fi stuff...
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lunaterra
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 6:02 am 
 

May I ask why Exist†Trace are blacklisted? I'm fully willing to admit that their recent music isn't metal (though I'm still a fan), but their earlier work (up through 2009/10ish) is pretty solid gothic metal IMO:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQUiw4r77FU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksv1v8t0mbE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CVaO80vUwc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKJKIzizEvE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hdj7ik5ssxQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5roKNTsb4IE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiUB9y2I2s4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoAuOKn72dw

(I searched and someone did ask about them before, but it looked like they never got a response...not from the mods, anyway...)

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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 12:44 pm 
 

Hmm...two blacklist notes exist, neither citing a reason. Some of the riffs are borderline metal, but seem to share equal footing with hard rock aesthetics. It is close, I admit. Anybody else want to comment here?

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TheLoneForest
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 10:20 pm 
 

Diamhea wrote:

Regarding Another Perfect Day: This isn't really my 'specialty' but I did listen to it. The first and second tracks on their own seem passable. The production really makes it hard to hear the riffs, but they sound metal enough...the keyboards remind me of Blood Stain Child. The third track is too ambient. You say 'More as I upload them'. Are you saying this isn't the finalized tracklisting?


Thanks man! The tracklisting on the album, A Perfect Day | City of Dawn, is complete for A Perfect Day, it is a split however.

So, I have like no time to add a page for the band, so can somebody please do it? I can give you the info you need at my email: [email protected]

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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 10:38 pm 
 

Well we're not quite there. The band is digital-only, and the guidelines are slightly harsher regarding acts without a physical release. The problem is that the split you posted seems to be the only primarily-metal output from the band, and it is well under the 20-minute minimum. Most of the other material seems to be electro/synthpop or something and while pretty good for what it is, obviously isn't going to pass muster (even if you have a full-length available).
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TheLoneForest
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 11:00 pm 
 

Diamhea wrote:
Well we're not quite there. The band is digital-only, and the guidelines are slightly harsher regarding acts without a physical release. The problem is that the split you posted seems to be the only primarily-metal output from the band, and it is well under the 20-minute minimum. Most of the other material seems to be electro/synthpop or something and while pretty good for what it is, obviously isn't going to pass muster (even if you have a full-length available).


I actually have a physical release out on Rigorism Production. Check out the link.

http://www.rigorismprod.ru/Distro.html

I also have the full length due to be released in August through Black Candles Records. But in any sense, the album on Rigorism should be enough.

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theunrelentingattack
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 9:06 am 
 

Metalcuresheadaches - i've whitelisted Whores. Go ahead and submit them. Put in the submission notes that TUA whitelisted them based on the split
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 9:13 am 
 

^another perfect day

Listen man, you just aren't getting it. Your only metal release is too short and is digital only. The physical CD you have out is of a different record, one that is not metal. So we can't take you at this time. If you put a fully metal release out that's at least 20 minutes or that record is physical, then we can reconsider.

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metallander
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 3:22 pm 
 

Hey theunrelentingattack,

Wanted to provide some additional info on a submission for the US band Decypher - some of the previous links were not working correctly. The below links have been verified.

www.decyphermetal.com - Official site
https://www.facebook.com/decyphermetal - Facebook
https://soundcloud.com/loud-n-loaded-pr ... t-decypher - "Children of the Night" track

http://www.lamazakuatarecords.com/tienda/decypher.html - EP distribution by LaMazakuata Records

Please let me know if any additional info is required. Thanks for your time.
Enjoy!
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theunrelentingattack
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 7:21 pm 
 

Hey,

Thanks for the links. Just resubmit the band and I'll take a listen.
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metallander
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 7:58 pm 
 

Thanks so much - will do!

Enjoy!
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mjollnir
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 2:52 pm 
 

Can we give Nox Aeternum another look? I did link their bandcamp and even though their current release is just a single their first EP is almost at the 20 minute mark. Thanks!
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Terrion666
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 3:52 pm 
 

Hi!

Why Sigillvm was rejected? I revieved the following message:

Quote:
"Sorry Terrion666, Encyclopaedia Metallum was forced to reject your submission for the band Sigillvm (Spain), for the following reason:

We're going to pass on this for now, don't think they are metal enough at this point.

Not a metal band; does not belong on Encyclopaedia Metallum. Please read (or re-read) our rules next time to see what qualifies as metal.

If you want to object to this rejection, please do so in the appropriate thread in the Suggestions and Complaints sub-forum. Do not e-mail moderators directly about this.

Sincerely,
- theunrelentingattack, Encyclopaedia Metallum "


Can you explain me why isn't a metal band? I thing is a caotic, dirty and raw Black Metal band in vein of all of O.T.O. Black Metal bands like HateHordes, Wamphyre (which share this split), Herxebet and all the stuff similar to LLN. Yo can take a look over the Negromancy's Bandcamp or also this song in youtube. And, of course, they have an physical release

http://negromancy.bandcamp.com/album/wa ... t-cassette
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_iVOjbzqS0

Thank you very much for your time!

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Zaephar
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 4:00 pm 
 

Could someone tell me why "The Order Of The Solar Temple" is blacklisted? You can hear their full album here: http://i-voidhangerrecords.bandcamp.com ... lar-temple (Skip the first song, is different to the rest).

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Metantoine
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 4:10 pm 
 

Heard the album some weeks ago and it was definitely a very good occult rock one. I'll revisit it today though but it didn't striked me as a metal album.
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Zaephar
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 4:12 pm 
 

Oh well, thanks.

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theunrelentingattack
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:54 pm 
 

Terrion666 wrote:
Hi!

Why Sigillvm was rejected?

Can you explain me why isn't a metal band? I thing is a caotic, dirty and raw Black Metal band in vein of all of O.T.O. Black Metal bands like HateHordes, Wamphyre (which share this split), Herxebet and all the stuff similar to LLN. Yo can take a look over the Negromancy's Bandcamp or also this song in youtube. And, of course, they have an physical release

http://negromancy.bandcamp.com/album/wa ... t-cassette
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_iVOjbzqS0

Thank you very much for your time!


Well, that youtube link wasn't in the submission. The split is unstructured and more improv'd noise than black metal - you only included the one song not the improv rehearsal tracks too. Let me listen to the youtube song and then i'll figure out what to do

Edit: i've accepted the band now that I've heard parts of the demo.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:27 am 
 

Please add Body Count to webpage. Here's some of their music videos:



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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:32 am 
 

Sorry, this has been brought up before. Not applicable.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 5:55 am 
 

theunrelentingattack wrote:
Metalcuresheadaches - i've whitelisted Whores. Go ahead and submit them. Put in the submission notes that TUA whitelisted them based on the split


Done.
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Why was my submission rejected?
Here is my page: http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Wan ... 3540383383

I've submitted physical and tangible proof of the CD's existence here: http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c203/ ... 897c95.jpg

I've read the submission rules and have looked at both examples of what a physical release should look like. The examples given in the submission rules have artwork printed on the CD's themselves and have a booklet on the inside. I understand that being the case for 95% of album submissions, but this is just a mere demo, and as I stated I am keeping this project low-budget as money is not a motivating factor for my work. Does it really need to look so professional to be inducted into the archives? Anyone that can either look into my submission and accept it or shed some light on what needs to be done so I can do so will be appreciated GREATLY. Thanks in advance! :-)
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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 4:12 pm 
 

Alex,

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A valid physical release is always preferred, and you must provide evidence of the availability of this physical format. This means a CD, LP, or even a tape. Photographs of the physical release(s), such as this or this example, will go a long way into having your submission accepted (whereas blank-looking CD-Rs hand-written in black marker will not)
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Metantoine
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 4:16 pm 
 

I haven't heard the demo so I don't know if it fits our criterias concerning professionalism but the length is sufficient for a digital release if you could do one.
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So what can I do Diamhea? Am I supposed to spend $1,000 to have somebody else make my CD look "professional"? I just don't know where you even draw the line! I printed all of these CD's in that fashion, what can be changed that is making it insufficient?

@Metantoine, well, I don't have a bandcamp or anything where you could download the demo or listen to it digitally. I have the CD's, and I made a playlist of all the songs on youtube that can be heard here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX0vnaK ... jremMo0RI5 How would you suggest going about a digital release? It may be the only way since apparently my physical format is not good enough. :brick:
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 7:41 am 
 

Well, look at it from our position, Maniac Matis. We want to make sure that every band that is accepted into the archives as a metal band has, for sure, released at least one metal album. Our tools are limited, however... it's not as though we have the means to physically scrutinize every album or every band we judge; it's just not reasonably plausible. All we can do is accept samples of that album's music and discern, usually through photos, whether that album appears to us to be real and not just a blank CD. In order to ensure some level of credibility in this process, we often place the onus of proof on the user to show us that - beyond a doubt - the album is what the user says it is. Your proof doesn't totally convince us that the album is what you say it is. Truthfully, we don't doubt that it probably is a legitimate album, but we'd rather ensure that is actually the case (as close as possible) and not rely on our own guesswork based on evidence that is less-than-stellar.

There are possible solutions to this. If there are places or people which sell your album or that have reviewed it. If you can show it being sold at gigs or through labels, or even in duplicate in some form. Anything helps to show that it is being distributed to folks and that multiple copies exist out there. It helps us to know the album is actually real. We know this can be a pain, but know that if your band is eventually accepted that we aim to hold that same standard to all bands accepted here. We aren't trying to make it hard for you, specifically.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 8:53 am 
 

And I'm not a mod, and I don't mean to mini-mod or whatever, but the rules these days also permit digital releases as being a valid "proof of distribution", so I've seen, so you can put them up on Bandcamp or iTunes or whatever. So long as they're downloadable no-strings-attached, i.e. not just for streaming on Youtube or Spotify. It would also help with getting your music out there in any case too.

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Maniac Matis
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 11:20 am 
 

I appreciate the time you took to give me a meaningful response, Derigin! Your standards are completely understandable, and if I was a mod on this site I would want it to be upheld the same. I printed 100 copies of the demo and have given them all away already, besides my personal copy (the one in that picture), so I suppose I could either buy more, burn, and print them all. However they'd still be in the same unacceptable format (ie. writing in black/blue pen and no cover -- I can't afford ink for that many copies :-(, especially since I'm not selling the CD's either). I AM planning on getting the CD reviewed by a user of metal-temple.com once he receives the CD in the mail, so I suppose when that happens I can use the review to validate its' existence? Also, I don't have itunes and I'm very unfamiliar with how to even make a bandcamp or somewhere where I can release the demo digitally. Either way, thanks for taking to the time to explain!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 11:51 am 
 

Hi,
can I ask, why was the band HEIRS blacklisted?

Thanks for an answer.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 2:53 pm 
 

Skriande wrote:
(...) why was the band HEIRS blacklisted?

According to the blacklist, they're non-metallic drone.
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here is a photo from the "Demo 2010"(cd,100 copies lim.) from Grave Violator
http://oi59.tinypic.com/332o0mg.jpg
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