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MutantClannfear
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Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 4:47 am

MeavyHetal wrote:

I suppose The Contortionist should probably be looked at as well. These guys are a bit harder to judge, as they aren't entirely djent, but i'm not sure if the metal elements are really predominant in their sound over the progressive elements. I already know their early EP's are unacceptable deathcore, but they were accepted based off of Exoplanet. Well after listening to Exoplanet, I'm still hearing a lot of djent influence. The lastest album, Intrinsic, seems to go even further with the prog elements. Another great band, but i'm just not sure if metal is the predominant influence.

Thoughts?

Seconding this - The Contortionist sound too much like prog/djentcore/wank/whatever.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEE_N0qbAG8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L17iB-qLFk0

Also:

MutantClannfear wrote:

Disperse: http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Disperse/3540334963

Combination of jazz fusion-y stuff, SimCity soundtrack music and djent. Gets kind of metally at times but it's mostly just a combination of the aforementioned three things.

First album can be streamed here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zR_JM3PRL7Y
Second album can be streamed here: http://disperseband.bandcamp.com/

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~Guest 104167
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Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:25 pm

Onslaught - from India - listed as Power/Thrash/Groove Metal but every band page tag is Christian Alternative Rock. Seems the band's music is really it - please take a listen on SoundCloud and Bandcamp. First album available on SoundClick.

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MutantClannfear
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Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 5:14 am

Neuma: http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Neuma/28202

Another Meshuggah ape that can be shown the door. (Poland seems to be really bad about making these. :ugh:

) This one in particular is some weird hybrid of nu-metal, Tool and industrial, but no metal riffs, just shuffling bass and weird textures.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTNu2KDqkXw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiY-ttUENJI
https://myspace.com/neumatoneindustria

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thrashinbatman
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Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2013 11:36 pm

thrashinbatman wrote:

Not sure if this is where this needs to go, but recently it's been noted that the album Shemhamphorae by Zatreon is made up of songs by Toxic Grind Machine.

http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/bar/ ... r-own.html

If that's enough, then I feel it should be edited to reflect this.

What about this?

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Alhadis
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Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 1:09 am

MutantClannfear wrote:

Another Meshuggah ape that can be shown the door. (Poland seems to be really bad about making these. :ugh:

) This one in particular is some weird hybrid of nu-metal, Tool and industrial, but no metal riffs, just shuffling bass and weird textures.

Holy, erm... crap. "Experimental Post-Thrash Metal", my Slavic arse. Nuked and blacklisted. o0;

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Helvede
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Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 11:55 am

thrashinbatman wrote:

What about this?

I've updated the add. notes for that album at Zatreon's page. It might have to be on their 'frontpage' too. No matter how fucked up actions like this is, we keep the album listed, because it's now part of metal history, and we are here to document it. It seems like this case hasn't come to an end yet, so if anything new turns up, please report it.

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Azmodes
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Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 4:25 pm

Deleted Hate Machine from Florida. Mall/hardcore.

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Ziotopanga
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Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 12:41 pm

Why Bloodrocuted was accepted? Their upcoming album "Doomed to Annihilation" will be released on September 21st.
Proof : https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =3&theater

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Azmodes
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Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 1:07 pm

My mistake, deleted.

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xsongsofselfx
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Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:35 pm

Judging by previous discussions, it has come to my attention that Bolt Thrower should be deleted since they were considered a hardcore band before being a metal band. I'm not at all serious.

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Zodijackyl
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Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:37 pm

xsongsofselfx wrote:

Judging by previous discussions, it has come to my attention that Bolt Thrower should be deleted since they were considered a hardcore band before being a metal band. I'm not at all serious.

Gone.

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Alhadis
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Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 8:10 am

xsongsofselfx wrote:

I'm not at all serious.

Thank fuck for the clarification.

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Azmodes
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Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:49 am

Deleted LegioNex and Ill Rectum. No physical releases, apparently miskeri.net demo bands only.

Rated X from Switzerland is gone as well. Hard rock/AOR. Very curious that this was filed under "thrash/speed metal".

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Azmodes
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Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 11:18 am

Deleted Konkave. Some kind of techy post-hardcore/grind.

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Azmodes
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Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 7:06 pm

Deleted Dismal Prospects. Demo was composed, but never even recorded, let alone released.

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Zodijackyl
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Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 8:33 pm

Removed:
The Plasmarifle - Dissonant technical hardcore similar to The Tony Danza Tapdance Extravaganze or a deathcorified Dillinger Escape Plan Lite
Harvest the Deceased - Dumbed down deathcore
Nobody Lives Forever - Symphonic hardcore
Circles - Wussy DEP-lite prog/post hardcore

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Zorg85
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Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 3:55 am

Nuke http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Vic ... 3540369771

Same as Victorius, already existing

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Vic ... 3540273882

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MutantClannfear
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Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:06 am

Bodies in the Gears of the Apparatus: http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Bod ... atus/44232

Not entirely sure this is predominantly metal. Sounds like the non-metal parts of grindcore mixed with early Despised Icon and some mathcore. If you decide to keep this band, "mathcore" needs to be added to the genre.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSBMFGYnXZ0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9CyUFnna3w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKpVbW1Qius
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb4QVd3TciQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxjDsKx3V7I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCBao9e77fI

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Helvede
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Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 6:17 am

Zorg85 wrote:

Nuke http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Vic ... 3540369771

Same as Victorius, already existing

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Vic ... 3540273882

Done, thanks.

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ShaolinLambKiller
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Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 1:13 pm

MutantClannfear wrote:

I agree with this. played with them and have most of those releases... I never thought of them as metal in the least.

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Zodijackyl
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Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:50 pm

-Only a "digital single" on Soundclick.
-Sounds like Evanescence. Exactly like them.
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default ... dID=239885

*nukes*

Bodies... should probably be nuked but I know Alhadis wants to archive info on bands like that and he is certainly more accustomed to that style than I am.

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Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:56 pm

lol. guess I shoulda filed a report with "sounds like evanescence" instead of reviewing them

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Azmodes
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Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:07 am

MutantClannfear wrote:

Deleted. They sure changed for the worse with their sophomore release. The debut is prog rock with some metal, but the second is djent so obvious it would make Animals as Leaders cringe.

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Azmodes
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Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:17 am

Grouping these here for better access:

MetalCuresHeadaches wrote:

Why is Absinthropy here? I particularly enjoyed their stuff, but it sounds like dark/depressive rock rather than black metal, and even core-y in some places. If you took out the vocalist, it doesn't seem like there'd be that many traces of black metal at all.

Then again, I have a terrible judge in what counts as metal on the site, so maybe it's just me.

All their releases can be heard in their entirety at their Bandcamp.

MutantClannfear wrote:

MeavyHetal wrote:

Seconding this - The Contortionist sound too much like prog/djentcore/wank/whatever.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEE_N0qbAG8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L17iB-qLFk0

aeternus1990 wrote:

Will be taken care of ASAP.

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MutantClannfear
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Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:06 am

Posting on GraveWish's behalf since he can't post on this subforum: http://www.metal-archives.com/report/vi ... 1/show/all

Lynchmada: http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Lynchmada/86188

"Sounds much more on the non-metallic metalcore/post-hardcore/screamo side. Thus I am quite convinced that this band should be removed from MA."

http://www.reverbnation.com/lynchmada

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Azmodes
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Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:05 am

Deleted 활/Hwal again. Seems to be mostly rock.

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Azmodes
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Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:42 am

MutantClannfear wrote:

Agreed, evidently another one of those 2007/08 fuck-ups. It's gone.

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Azmodes
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Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:04 pm

Absinthropy: You might have a point there. Inclined to agree, but I'll ask some other mods for their input first.

Onslaught: What the...? Nukified.

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Azmodes
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Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 3:59 am

Deleted Logical Nonsense. Hardcore punk. The latest release is crust/hardcore of some sort, but nothing in their discography is metal.

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Azmodes
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Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2013 5:19 pm

I'm listening through The Contortionist's discography right now and it will most likely get deleted soon.

Submitted by a notorious, now-banned -core submitter too. Must be one of his that slipped through by accident.

EDIT: Gone.

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Obscurum
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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 3:48 am

Dawn of the Maya: about as far from acceptable metalcore as can be. My God.

http://dawnofthemaya.bandcamp.com

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Azmodes
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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 7:51 am

Ugh, deleted.

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Erosion of Humanity
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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:42 pm

I'm going to nominate the band Equimanthorn http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Equimanthorn/19311 I'm assuming that they're only here because a couple of the guys are also in Absu and I'm wondering if Absu is really a big enough (important enough) band for the side project rule?
Here's some samples and if you can actually sit through a whole song then you're a better man than me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMja3sSt-XU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zP-kZlNHrVI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Jzo55v5I4M

All the songs that I've listened to are pretty much the same stuff as well.

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theunrelentingattack
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Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 8:54 pm

A report filed pointed out this band - Tactile Gemma - which doesn't seem to be metal at all.

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Tactile_Gemma/18440

Is this on here as a side project? If not, maybe this should go?

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Helvede
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Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 2:16 am

theunrelentingattack wrote:

Side project.

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MetalCuresHeadaches
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Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:16 am

Azmodes wrote:

Absinthropy: You might have a point there. Inclined to agree, but I'll ask some other mods for their input first.

Since they're still around, does that mean the other staff disagreed?

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Posted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 4:02 pm

Patience is a virtue.

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Azmodes
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Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 6:10 am

Deleted Abiotic from Norway. No conclusive evidence for a valid release.

I'm not that sure about Absinthropy anymore. There is quite a bit of black metal on the full-length, also instrumentally. Another mod thinks they're acceptable, so they'll most likely stay for now.

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OpsiusCato
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Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 3:45 pm

Erosion Of Humanity wrote:

Are you serious? Absu IS relevant enough, and Equimanthorn IS a valid side project...

Da Rulz wrote:

...a side-project is a band started in parallel to another band...

Equimanthorn was started by two out of three members of Absu in 92/93, and were later joinded by the third memeber. Absu was started in 89, and by 91 all of the musicians that later started/were involved in Equimanthorn were ALREADY in the band.

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Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2013 9:14 pm

just out of curiosity (and possibly also for educational value), why wasn't the X-mas project added to the archives until today?

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