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PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2013 2:38 am 
 

I like the new Battle Beast, but it's definitely got some filler/lame tracks, and I don't think it's as good as the debut.
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PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2013 9:55 am 
 

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Has anyone ever investigated if Timi Hansen was living a double life and also playing in Sortilege as "Daniel Lapp"? Talk about show stealing performances. Between the vocals and bass I forget the guitars exist at certain points.


I can't even remember paying attention to the bass in Sortilege! Aiiiiieee! But yeah, Hansen is absolutely one the best metal bassists ever.
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PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2013 9:52 pm 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Her ... 3540363241

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PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2013 10:47 pm 
 

The Nightmare Rider wrote:
Hey everyone! I have a very specific request in terms of Power Metal. I am a BIG fan of bands like Power Quest, Sonata Arctica and Stratovarius. Can anyone recommend me some band that has allot of big keyboard sounds and/or keyboard/keytar solos within them? I know Power/Folk crossovers like Alestorm and Gloryhammer do those too, so any more Power/Folk bands would be nice to know of too.


For cheesy, albeit good keyboard-driven power metal, i'd recommend Timeless Miracle debut. Both Lost Horizon albums, while maybe not THAT keyboard-driven, are probably the best Euro-Power out there.
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PostPosted: Sat May 18, 2013 11:42 pm 
 

How fucking much does Wizard rock?! Awesome stuff. Totally unabashedly cheesy, heavy as hell early 2000s Power Metal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgPirFW8Q7g

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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 2:02 am 
 

Empyreal wrote:
How fucking much does Wizard rock?! Awesome stuff. Totally unabashedly cheesy, heavy as hell early 2000s Power Metal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgPirFW8Q7g

"God of the DAAAAAARRRRRKKKK!" :metal:


Wizard is indeed a cool band. I prefer their pre-Odin stuff. Was a little rawer and more straight forward. This band is a good example of being melodic and full of power too.

How are people liking the new U.D.O. track "Metal Machine"? I think it's okay and the album may be good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sMIQToKF8I

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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 2:20 am 
 

I agree, their earlier material is a lot more riff-centric. In that track Empyreal linked, the guitar is just 16th-noting along on the same chord for a lot of the time.

A lot better imo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dygX5cRxjM
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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 2:49 am 
 

Could someone recommend me an Axel Rudi Pell album? Thanks in advance.
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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 6:51 am 
 

Zelkiiro wrote:
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Heralds_of_the_Sword/3540363241


Why does that guy have a loaf of bread on his shoulder?
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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 11:55 am 
 

failsafeman wrote:
I agree, their earlier material is a lot more riff-centric. In that track Empyreal linked, the guitar is just 16th-noting along on the same chord for a lot of the time.

A lot better imo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dygX5cRxjM


That was good, definitely more 80s style riffage going on there. But I really don't see a big quality difference between it and the other song I linked. They both rock pretty hard. I dig the epic edge and more elaborate songwriting on Odin a bit more though.

Listening to "Battle of Metal" as a download from their site now...this is very raw and unpolished, but pretty good. Solid, silly heavy metal.
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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 12:31 pm 
 

Aydross wrote:
Could someone recommend me an Axel Rudi Pell album? Thanks in advance.

My favourite is Eternal Prisoner, but most of them are pretty good. It is probably more appropriate to start with an album with Johnny Gioeli on vocals, since he's sung on most of them, but I still think Eternal Prisoner is the best of the one's I've heard. If you want an album with Johnny, go with Kings and Queens.

The Nightmare Rider wrote:
Hey everyone! I have a very specific request in terms of Power Metal. I am a BIG fan of bands like Power Quest, Sonata Arctica and Stratovarius. Can anyone recommend me some band that has allot of big keyboard sounds and/or keyboard/keytar solos within them? I know Power/Folk crossovers like Alestorm and Gloryhammer do those too, so any more Power/Folk bands would be nice to know of too.


Are Freedom Call and Dragonforce too obvious? Both bands fit that mold well, though are probably a bit more guitar focused than the three you mentioned.

Symfonia is another good choice. It is a Timo Tolkki project that sounds very similar to the Stratovarius of the 90's. He also has a new album coming out soon: Timo Tolkki's Avalon. I'm anticipating it being closer to Avantasia than Stratovarius, but that might be worth looking into as well.

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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 4:25 pm 
 

ANationalAcrobat wrote:
Zelkiiro wrote:
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Heralds_of_the_Sword/3540363241


Why does that guy have a loaf of bread on his shoulder?

I don't...know... :o
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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 8:38 pm 
 

For Axel Rudi Pell I would go with Black Moon Pyramid.

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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2013 9:13 pm 
 

Heir Apparent's Graceful inheritance is such an awesome album. I thought I heard this band before but I must have been confusing them with another band that I passed off as underwhelming at some point. Glad to change the misconception.
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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 3:50 am 
 

Aydross wrote:
Could someone recommend me an Axel Rudi Pell album? Thanks in advance.


I'd go with "Circle Of The Oath" as it flows together well and there's a lot of variety.

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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 4:23 am 
 

Aydross wrote:
Could someone recommend me an Axel Rudi Pell album? Thanks in advance.


There was a thread;
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=97771

Personally, I'd recommend "Mystica" and "Nasty Reputation". Ballsy, epic records with great songs.
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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 4:58 am 
 

Generally Axel Rudi Pell's albums are all at least of decent quality. The songwriting is usually good if you like this type of metal. I prefer the earlier stuff myself.

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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 7:33 pm 
 

Can anybody suggest any power metal bands that have an aggressive vocalist and just in general sound more aggressive, not like they're fantasy fairies fighting dragons and saving fair maidens? Aggressive vocalist as in a more raspy sounding badass kinda sound, like Pharaoh, Heavatar, Iced Earth.

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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 8:00 pm 
 

DSxXevious wrote:
Can anybody suggest any power metal bands that have an aggressive vocalist and just in general sound more aggressive, not like they're fantasy fairies fighting dragons and saving fair maidens? Aggressive vocalist as in a more raspy sounding badass kinda sound, like Pharaoh, Heavatar, Iced Earth.

As repellent as your stereotyping of power metal is, I still feel compelled to rec Persuader (or, to cite BastardHead, old school Blind Guardian on PCP). Vulvagun is also worth a try, even if they're more dark and atmospheric than actually aggressive.

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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 8:07 pm 
 

Xlxlx wrote:
DSxXevious wrote:
Can anybody suggest any power metal bands that have an aggressive vocalist and just in general sound more aggressive, not like they're fantasy fairies fighting dragons and saving fair maidens? Aggressive vocalist as in a more raspy sounding badass kinda sound, like Pharaoh, Heavatar, Iced Earth.

As repellent as your stereotyping of power metal is, I still feel compelled to rec Persuader (or, to cite BastardHead, old school Blind Guardian on PCP). Vulvagun is also worth a try, even if they're more dark and atmospheric than actually aggressive.

Oh gosh sorry don't get me wrong I love Kamelot and Blind Guardian symphonic stuff with high-flying voices like that and I guess I worded that very poorly, but it isn't exactly what I'm in the mood for at the moment. Both of the bands sound pretty good, thanks!

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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 8:14 pm 
 

DSxXevious wrote:
Can anybody suggest any power metal bands that have an aggressive vocalist and just in general sound more aggressive, not like they're fantasy fairies fighting dragons and saving fair maidens? Aggressive vocalist as in a more raspy sounding badass kinda sound, like Pharaoh, Heavatar, Iced Earth.


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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 10:25 pm 
 

@DSxXevious; ah, don't worry. You should indeed be more careful with the way you word your requests from now onwards though. First impressions matter a lot, you know? ;)

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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 10:27 pm 
 

Vulvagun's singer sounds almost exactly like Todd LaTorre on the new Queensryche material...it's uncanny.
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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 10:38 pm 
 

You know what? That's bloody true. Must be a combination of similar techniques and ranges.

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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 2:29 pm 
 

Bloody Hell, Black Knight's Metal Screams is at parts a blatant rip-off of AC/DC's Hell's Bells. Such a pity, they seemed like an otherwise competent band.

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BaloroftheEvilEye wrote:
Bloody Hell, Black Knight's Metal Screams is at parts a blatant rip-off of AC/DC's Hell's Bells. Such a pity, they seemed like an otherwise competent band.


Does not really bother me. If you must rip off, rip off from the best.

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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 3:31 pm 
 

Empyreal wrote:
Vulvagun's singer sounds almost exactly like Todd LaTorre on the new Queensryche material...it's uncanny.


Seriously not hearing it. On the subject of Queensryche, their new album sounds horribly loud. I know it's a problem with a lot of newer albums, but it sounds really bad on Redemption. Still, the songs they've released have grown on me. Where Dreams Go to Die is pretty bitchin'. Drums still sound pretty bad though.

Also finally heard the the Tate version. It's not as bad some make it out to be, but it's not good by any means. Those bonus tracks...wow. They sound so lifeless and dull. Not sure how the band got the power metal tag on the archives.
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WaywardSon wrote:
Empyreal wrote:
Vulvagun's singer sounds almost exactly like Todd LaTorre on the new Queensryche material...it's uncanny.


Seriously not hearing it.


It's not identical I guess, but I just always think of Vulvagun when I hear that "Redemption" song in particular. In "Where Dreams Go to Die" the resemblance isn't quite as striking I suppose, but still.
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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 3:56 pm 
 

DSxXevious wrote:
Can anybody suggest any power metal bands that have an aggressive vocalist and just in general sound more aggressive, not like they're fantasy fairies fighting dragons and saving fair maidens? Aggressive vocalist as in a more raspy sounding badass kinda sound, like Pharaoh, Heavatar, Iced Earth.


I'd recommend Galneryus or Skywings, but I think they're a bit too high pitched for you? Ha! So...I would throw in:

Concerto Moon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpXhkyhRF4o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHyFNbVsj4c
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Dude! Just fell across this gem on amazon...

Picture - Warhorse

From Holland. It's like modern Saxon meets German power metal. Fucking awesome!

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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 8:07 pm 
 

DSxXevious wrote:
Can anybody suggest any power metal bands that have an aggressive vocalist and just in general sound more aggressive, not like they're fantasy fairies fighting dragons and saving fair maidens? Aggressive vocalist as in a more raspy sounding badass kinda sound, like Pharaoh, Heavatar, Iced Earth.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLWTdDGUq-k

Grand Materia by Morgana Lefay, perhaps? Not as raspy, but some meaty riffs.
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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 9:32 pm 
 

Exigence wrote:
Dude! Just fell across this gem on amazon...

Picture - Warhorse

From Holland. It's like modern Saxon meets German power metal. Fucking awesome!


If you want some really cool stuff and classic metal to boot try the "Eternal Dark" album from those guys. Seriously awesome classic heavy metal.

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Eh, Picutre is pretty good but honestly they're just not that consistent. Some of their tracks are really good ("Griffins Guard the Gold" is a great heavy metal track) but for the most part they're decent but kind of forgettable. There are much much better Dutch bands from the 80s (Vault, Martyr, Mysto Dysto, Defender, Emerald, Dark Wizard, and Vortex, to name a few).
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Looks like Ragnarokkr fest is hoping to pull in SATAN and GRIM REAPER as headliners, also CROWHAVEN, IRON MESSIAH, AXEMASTER will be confirmed soon, good chance of AMULANCE as well

The fest is running a kick-starter to help cover the base costs of the fest (venue, etc) and one of the perks is that you can get live audio recordings of the main stage bands and the sound quality was real good. Tyrant's Reign, Ashbury, Omen, OZ, Sleepy Hollow, etc etc. I dunno if any of you US-crowd went this year but I went and it was a fucking blast. Great bands, great venue, good food, good beer, it was a damned fine time.
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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 12:24 am 
 

Just some quick CAULDRON BORN news:

I will be singing on the upcoming CAULDRON BORN album, entitled "Sword and Sorcery Heavy Metal". It has 3 brand new songs (one clocking in at 12 minutes!) and has previous demos also included.

I'm VERY excited about this because I have been a huge fan of this band for many years! The new material is really excellent!

http://www.echoesofcromrecords.com/caul ... __net.html
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Well that's good news for sure, it's no secret around here that I'm rather fond of Cauldron Born myself. I just want some new material, goddammit!
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Very good news. I am a HUGE Cauldron Born fan and even a have a t-shirt from the pre-order of the reissue of the debut album. Colour me very excited about this new album. I also like Temple Of Blood very much and I think the vocals will fit Cauldron Born well. Onward for Crom's sake!

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Yes, I think we're all foaming for some new Cauldron Born material, but to be fair I still don't have the entirety of And Rome Shall Fall committed to memory yet like the debut.

Got my Lazarus Sin disc in last night. Its the "Lou Psypher" edition which seems like a pretty quality bootleg. I can definitely hear a lot of the 70s influence in the riffing and songcraft, it's pretty incredible to me this was recorded in '88. Really digging the vocalist too, I thought he was all mid-range until he finally let loose at the end of a song. He really knows how to make you wait/appreciate the falsettos. Anyways I only had time for a cursory listen on the way into work today but I don't regret my purchase at all and I'm looking forward to spending more time with it.

Thanks again Zdan!
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Jonpo wrote:
Yes, I think we're all foaming for some new Cauldron Born material, but to be fair I still don't have the entirety of And Rome Shall Fall committed to memory yet like the debut.

Got my Lazarus Sin disc in last night. Its the "Lou Psypher" edition which seems like a pretty quality bootleg. I can definitely hear a lot of the 70s influence in the riffing and songcraft, it's pretty incredible to me this was recorded in '88. Really digging the vocalist too, I thought he was all mid-range until he finally let loose at the end of a song. He really knows how to make you wait/appreciate the falsettos. Anyways I only had time for a cursory listen on the way into work today but I don't regret my purchase at all and I'm looking forward to spending more time with it.

Thanks again Zdan!


My pleasure Jonpo :)

Yes there is a ton of 70s influence in the riffs and arrangements. I personally hear nods to albums like "Stained Class" or some Sabbath stuff. I was also astounded to find that this was record in 1988. It does not sound that way. It sounds like something recoded in 1979 - not production wise but in terms of the riffs. It basically skips "thrash" part of heavy metal's development and plants itself firmly in the OLD school. And does so wonderfully I might add. "Blood For Mercy" is a riff monster.

Plus the vocalist excels in mid-range stuff but can let loose and wail with the best of them. The mid-tempo and epic nature of most of the songs really help his deliver shine. All in all - an unsung gem. I am glad I could turn a fellow metalhead onto this band - they are criminally underrated.

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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 2:48 am 
 

Hey guys! I have very special request for you. In few weeks I travel with my friend few hours by a car to other country and I need some music which will suit for both of us.
He enjoys Metallica and old heavy metal/hard rock bands (Guns'n'Roses and etc). He said he hates Iron Maiden because he doesn't like high pitched vocals and too fast tempos.
I on the other hand love power metal (high pitched vocals, fast tempos, great melodies). Could you recommend me some power metal with mid tempo songs (can have few fast but not as fast as Dragonforce) and some baritonish vocals (not Michael Kiske, Tony Moore, Daniel Heiman, Michele Luppi ...).
maybe something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdVMZPNNAs0
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