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henkkjelle
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:38 pm 
 

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This is probably a dumb question but: How?


Mirror on a invisible stick.

Amazing pic, can't wait untill the Curiosity reaches the base of those mountains we saw earlier.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:45 pm 
 

Every time I look at Mars' landscape, I can't help but feel my jaw slacken a little bit.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 4:11 pm 
 

inhumanist wrote:
This is probably a dumb question but: How?

done by Martians of course ... and then uploaded to the NASA servers.

more serious:
55 pictures with this and then pasted together.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 5:25 pm 
 

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/vi ... ing-Planet
First "free-floating planet" discovered.

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:21 pm 
 

So apparently Curiosity discovered something "for the history books" in a Martian soil sample. They're still analysing it further before they make any definite announcements, but this looks really interesting so far.

http://www.npr.org/2012/11/20/165513016 ... um-for-now
http://www.theverge.com/2012/11/20/3671 ... ecret-data
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analog_winter
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:05 pm 
 

It should be interesting to see what they found if it turns out to be as big as those articles make it sound. I'm looking forward to hearing more.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:29 pm 
 

I have cautious optimism on this one. I really hope it is 'Earth shaking', as they put it, and will make the people of the world pause their trivial, over-dramatic lives for even but a moment :lol:
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Mike_235
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 3:31 am 
 

I bet it turns out to be something only scientist can understand and/or appreciate, but still interesting none the less.

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wrathchild_88
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:27 am 
 

http://io9.com/5963263/how-nasa-will-bu ... warp-drive

My BSc in Physics isn't enough to tell whether this is nonsense or not. My gut feeling is that it's not practical yet but could still be a possibility. I mean the guy behind this idea must have some sort of clue as to what he's doing... In any case, I'm all for looking further into this technology - any advances in space travel are a fantastic thing in my book.

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HellBlazer
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:52 pm 
 

Sorry guys, the hype over Curiosity's supposed discovery was just a misunderstanding. :boo: :grumble:


wrathchild_88 wrote:
http://io9.com/5963263/how-nasa-will-build-its-very-first-warp-drive

My BSc in Physics isn't enough to tell whether this is nonsense or not. My gut feeling is that it's not practical yet but could still be a possibility. I mean the guy behind this idea must have some sort of clue as to what he's doing... In any case, I'm all for looking further into this technology - any advances in space travel are a fantastic thing in my book.


Wow, that sounds amazing. A bit hard to believe in fact, but I assume NASA doesn't give research funds to complete kooks... I can imagine there will be years or decades of work to put into it before it's actually practical, but hopefully they can find out for sure if it's feasible or not with current experiments.

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inhumanist
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 6:32 am 
 

HellBlazer wrote:
Sorry guys, the hype over Curiosity's supposed discovery was just a misunderstanding. :boo: :grumble:

So everything as usual between science and the media :lol:
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wrathchild_88
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 7:55 am 
 

HellBlazer wrote:
Sorry guys, the hype over Curiosity's supposed discovery was just a misunderstanding. :boo: :grumble:

D'oh! ...for want of a better phrase. Still, the misquoted quote was right in that it will be (is?) a historic mission - and there's still lots to do for Curiosity so there could well be something amazing on the horizon. Literally.

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Det_Morkettall
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:21 pm 
 

Uhhh... guys?...
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/lif ... to-go-out/

I'm gonna leave that there.

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Napero
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 1:54 am 
 

We are very small. Very very small:

http://jackadam.net/misc/radio_broadcas ... dcasts.jpg
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:13 pm 
 

Det_Morkettall wrote:
Uhhh... guys?...
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/lif ... to-go-out/

I'm gonna leave that there.


Read and be awe struck!

http://www.exitmundi.nl/eternity.htm
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inhumanist
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:05 am 
 

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A proton, the particle you’ll find in the core of atoms, has an average lifetime of 100 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 000 years. Wait long enough, and it will suddenly vanish. Poof, gone. The same goes for light particles, the so-called ‘photons’. They’re expected to last a few zero’s longer, but in the end, they too will kick the bucket, one after the other. Isn’t that just bizarre? The light will go out, literally.

Doesn't that violate the laws of thermodynamics? What do they turn into?
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wrathchild_88
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 6:41 am 
 

That's incredibly misleading to just say that those things will just disappear. They'll turn into other things, which could randomly collide with other particles and create new particles if they have the momentum. (probably, don't quote me on that lol)
Protons could decay into a neutral pion and a positron... there's probably a few other combinations of neutral and positive particles that would work. Photons (I'm guessing) could decay into W+ and W-. But I don't really know. Also, no-one has ever seen a proton or photon decay, they're just theories. Probably correct, but theories nevertheless.

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Piikkienkantaja
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 11:40 am 
 

http://arstechnica.com/science/2012/12/ancient-quasar-imaged-when-the-universe-lacked-heavy-metal/

Pre 1960's?

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infinitenexus
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:31 pm 
 

I just got my first telescope the other day. Once the skies clear up I'll use it for the first time. I'm incredibly excited.
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analog_winter
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 11:45 pm 
 

Nice! I'd like to have my own telescope but there's too much light pollution in my area, and I wouldn't get to use it too often anyways.
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wrathchild_88
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:50 pm 
 

infinitenexus wrote:
I just got my first telescope the other day. Once the skies clear up I'll use it for the first time. I'm incredibly excited.

Nice, I got one a month or so ago but haven't had much chance to use it because of the weather. But I did manage to see Jupiter and 4 of its moons. I felt like Galileo. ^^

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infinitenexus
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 2:46 pm 
 

Tomorrow I'm going to start my cross country move (California to Maryland) and every night out in the mid west and the central states (Nebraska) I'm going to be using it.
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analog_winter
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:29 pm 
 

You'll definitely be able to get some dark skies as you cross the country. I live in Virginia, close to DC, and you can't see much at all in this area.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 8:20 am 
 

infinitenexus wrote:
Tomorrow I'm going to start my cross country move (California to Maryland) and every night out in the mid west and the central states (Nebraska) I'm going to be using it.


I'm close to st.louis and if you drive just outside a small town, it can be so dark that you only see the road.

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wrathchild_88
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:56 am 
 

Had a good look at Sirius, Rigel and Jupiter last night - gonna try and get a decent view of the Orion Nebula and Betelgeuse tonight. Fingers crossed for a clear night!

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The_Apex_of_Collapse
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 2:34 pm 
 

I am so jealous of you right now. I always wanted one and I think my next purchase, after my modular synth is payed off (Bit off more than I could chew on that one :ugh:) is a quality telescope for sure. A quick trip out of the city and the sky is ripe for stargazing. Have fun.
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Poisonfume
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 2:57 pm 
 

I know nothing of astronomy and telescopes. Tell me, how clearly do you see the planets? When you say you saw Jupiter could you actually make out its topographical features or is it just a little shiny dot?

Oh, and keep an eye out for Planet X and let us know. Y'know, so I can know whether I should stop bothering with this essay.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:13 pm 
 

I couldn't make out any of the features, but the telescope I've got isn't that great - I got it 2nd hand with very vague instructions and have only used it 3 or 4 times for not very long because it's too damn cold. I find it hard to keep it perfectly still and only move it slightly, but it goes up to 233.3x magnification which is good enough. I haven't really got used to it yet though and I think Jupiter was unusually bright last night, it was white rather than the orangey yellow I was expecting. Jupiter's diameter was about a third of the viewing area so I think I should have been able to see things fairly clearly. Maybe I need a polarising filter or something, I dunno. I could make out some moons fairly clearly as well (at least 4) but I couldn't keep the damn thing still enough. Gonna have to look into that... As I said I wanted to have a look at the Orion Nebula - if I can see that fairly clearly then I'm definitely gonna try and use it more often! Nebulas are so cool.

Hope that helped, but you do need some patience when it comes to astronomy I'm finding more and more. As for tonight, it's foggy. Damn you! *shakes fist at sky*

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Poisonfume
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 11:44 pm 
 

Wow, a third of the viewing area... I should find a friend with a telescope.
And yeah, it was pretty damn foggy today in Reading.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 5:58 pm 
 

Why we know stuff about stars.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:46 am 
 

Poisonfume wrote:
Wow, a third of the viewing area... I should find a friend with a telescope.
And yeah, it was pretty damn foggy today in Reading.

I may have unintentionally misled you... I focused on Jupiter again last night and it was more like a tenth of the viewing area (which still isn't too bad!). I think the problem was I wasn't wearing my contacts and the best focus I could get on it was still crap. Or I should stop using the telescope while I'm inside, but it's so cold! I'm still convinced I need a polarising filter if I want to make out any details though.

It's the Geminids [seemingly coming from just above and to the left of Orion in the constellation of Gemini] meteor shower tonight by the way. Apparently it starts around 9pm for people around the GMT time zone, but the best viewing will be between midnight and 1 am.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:35 pm 
 

The geminids are supposed to be great viewing. Also, they start early enough for those of us who get sleep :), and the sky is apparently moonless tonight.

I'm going to check it out.

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Napero
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:55 pm 
 

I was looking forward to them with the kids, but we have heavy overcast and it's snowing. They were nice last year, though.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:10 pm 
 

I have a decent view of the eastern sky from my backyard, so I'm gonna try to see some of the geminids, but we'll see if that works out or not.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:56 am 
 

wrathchild_88 wrote:
http://io9.com/5963263/how-nasa-will-build-its-very-first-warp-drive

My BSc in Physics isn't enough to tell whether this is nonsense or not. My gut feeling is that it's not practical yet but could still be a possibility. I mean the guy behind this idea must have some sort of clue as to what he's doing... In any case, I'm all for looking further into this technology - any advances in space travel are a fantastic thing in my book.


His description of how it alters space-time around the ship reminds me of the Planet Express in Futurama which moves space around it rather than moving itself. Really interesting theory nonetheless, I hope it gives way to some concrete results. Although I'm a little shocked that the energy required went from the mass of Jupiter all the way down to the Voyager in his calculations.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 6:39 am 
 

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html

A nice little website that posts up an astronomy related picture and a small description every day. I get plenty of desktop backgrounds off there - today's picture is definitely a candidate!

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Morrigan
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:24 pm 
 

Speaking of that:
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_an ... verse.html

Just... gorgeous, jaw-dropping stuff. :eek: The first one of the sun just blew my mind. I thought it was a painting... :oh shit:
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:11 pm 
 

The last picture just looks like a friggin' skull :eek: :metal:

So I guess now we know what'll devour us on friday.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:40 pm 
 

Morrigan wrote:
Speaking of that:
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_an ... verse.html

Just... gorgeous, jaw-dropping stuff. :eek: The first one of the sun just blew my mind. I thought it was a painting... :oh shit:


Thanks for that link. That sun picture is indeed amazing.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 4:22 am 
 

Neil deGrasee Tyson is talking to the American Senate, but his words ring true for any nation. I want to see humanity itself constantly push forward.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmKlA_UnX8c

I can't disagree with anything he said here. The newest phones make life convenient. The best game consoles make life fun. But nothing makes us dream like seeing what goes on in space.

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