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Author:  OzzyApu [ Mon Aug 06, 2012 8:42 pm ]
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http://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/I ... pireKiller

This review annoyed me. Good album, but the guy religiously uses these words: light, dark, happy, and sad.

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And also, whereas "Somewhere in Time" had quite a light and somewhat "happy" power metal sound, this album's sound is a unique blend of power metal and a light shade of doom metal. This is most noticeable on the opening track "Moonchild" which is fairly dark but at the same time kind of light.


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"The Clairvoyant" is one of the lighter songs on this album, which might be explained by the fact that it was the third single released from this album. The verses are quite sad whereas the chorus is quite happy, which creates an interesting mix between sadness and happiness. It's sad that Adrian's solo is too short, because it's great IMO.

Author:  Thumbman [ Tue Aug 07, 2012 12:20 am ]
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Way to much track-by-track going on in that review. Also, the guy made really, really obvious choices when choosing what bands to review.

Author:  Empyreal [ Fri Aug 10, 2012 9:16 am ]
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More positive late era Edguy reviews = :thumbsup:

Author:  GuntherTheUndying [ Fri Aug 10, 2012 10:25 am ]
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Empyreal wrote:
More positive late era Edguy reviews = :puke:

FTFY

Author:  Necroticism174 [ Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:37 pm ]
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By the way, Gunther, kudos for that positive Ne Obliviscaris review. I hadn't seen anyone else enjoy it.

Author:  Empyreal [ Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:50 pm ]
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GuntherTheUndying wrote:
Empyreal wrote:
More positive late era Edguy reviews = :puke:

FTFY


Hmmmmm...no, I still meant what I said the first time. :p

Author:  Metal_Detector [ Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:10 pm ]
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Necroticism174 wrote:
By the way, Gunther, kudos for that positive Ne Obliviscaris review. I hadn't seen anyone else enjoy it.


Are you talking about the review or the release? Because a lot of people have enjoyed that album...

Author:  Necroticism174 [ Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:29 pm ]
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The release. Everyone I saw speaking of it was crapping on it, calling it pointless, incoherent, comparing it to Opeth etc..

Author:  hells_unicorn [ Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:39 pm ]
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Necroticism174 wrote:
The release. Everyone I saw speaking of it was crapping on it, calling it pointless, incoherent, comparing it to Opeth etc..


:???:

Are you talking about just random people or reviewers on this site? Because I wouldn't consider a cumulative score of 87% the definition of an album getting crapped on if it is the latter. I was critical of the album being a bit convoluted at times and made a brief comparison to Opeth (along with Emperor and To-Mera, 2 bands I listen to regularly), but I thought it was a good album and worthy of checking into despite some accessibility issues.

Author:  xexyzl [ Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:49 pm ]
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If anything I think people are way too nice to that band in general.

Author:  OzzyApu [ Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:50 pm ]
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I just looked at the demo reviews. Probably the most resounding praise for a demo I've seen on this website.

Author:  Necroticism174 [ Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:18 pm ]
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Nah, not the demo, everyone loved it. I was also speaking about on the forum, and on the thread about the album. Gunther is the first actually great reviewer that tackled it.

Author:  GuntherTheUndying [ Sat Aug 11, 2012 12:17 am ]
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Wow, thanks dude, I really appreciate the feedback. :thumbsup:

Author:  Necroticism174 [ Sat Aug 11, 2012 4:49 pm ]
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Metantoine's new review was good, you aficionados should read it. I like when reviewers step away from the ''this album is good because of this and this, the end.'' style and actually try something different.

Author:  Metal_Detector [ Sat Aug 11, 2012 5:17 pm ]
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Necroticism174 wrote:
Metantoine's new review was good, you aficionados should read it. I like when reviewers step away from the ''this album is good because of this and this, the end.'' style and actually try something different.


I second this. Great review, and that style is really growing on me.

In other news, I slightly modified my BBE review and changed my rating to a 98%. I find that although I do believe it to be a top-flight record in every way, my personal feelings toward it don't reflect the other perfect scores I'd give to albums that have been my favorites for years and are special to me in some way. I should note that this doesn't indicate an ideology change to that of the 'there's no such thing as a perfect album' variety (which I'm pretty sure I will never support). I think everyone has their idea of what a 100% album should be, and for me, in retrospect, this isn't quite it. Maybe someday.

Author:  Thumbman [ Sat Aug 11, 2012 5:19 pm ]
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Yeah, the story in the beginning was entertaining. Good review for sure. He showed me some of their music and they're a really great band. The album before the one he reviewed is really great too, a lot more emphasis on heavy parts.

Just read Napero's review where he calls the internet the musical monsanto, really good stuff. He had some very interesting opinions on the internet's effect on music:
http://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/A ... 530/Napero

Author:  droneriot [ Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:30 am ]
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Zodijackyl's review for that Straight Line Stitch EP has me confused about one thing. The review talks about female vocals, yet the line-up does not mention a female vocalist prior to 2006. What's up with that?

Author:  Metantoine [ Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:16 pm ]
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http://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/D ... /dystopia4

dystopia4's 100th review, congrats to him, he wrote a long ass review for his nickname's inspiration.

Author:  Zodijackyl [ Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:18 pm ]
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droneriot wrote:
Zodijackyl's review for that Straight Line Stitch EP has me confused about one thing. The review talks about female vocals, yet the line-up does not mention a female vocalist prior to 2006. What's up with that?


Can't find accurate information on the lineup. The band has only a ghostly presence on the internet and sparse information about their lineups, perhaps because their lineup changes so frequently that they don't even keep their Facebook page and promo pics up to date. The band's discography isn't even on Discogs, which is both odd as they're on a big label, and funny because nobody cares about them enough to add their albums to major sites. The current vocalist joined in 2003.

Author:  Empyreal [ Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:33 pm ]
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http://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/C ... ywanderer7

It's a side project of Stratovarius and Sonata Arctica, and it doesn't sound like a symphonic black metal band? It's gotta suck.

Author:  OzzyApu [ Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:48 pm ]
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Reminds me of this Immortal review that was deleted recently where the user expected Immortal (raw, kvlt black metal) and got Immortal (black metal) and bashed the shit out of it calling it technical.

Author:  Zelkiiro [ Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:54 am ]
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Empyreal wrote:
http://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/Cain%27s_Offering/Gather_the_Faithful/244088/greywanderer7

It's a side project of Stratovarius and Sonata Arctica, and it doesn't sound like a symphonic black metal band? It's gotta suck.

It is a pretty lame album, though. The only songs I ever enjoyed were "Dawn of Solace" and "Into the Blue."

But that review is pretty awful. He makes MY reviews look good.

Author:  Zodijackyl [ Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:27 am ]
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Empyreal wrote:
http://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/Cain%27s_Offering/Gather_the_Faithful/244088/greywanderer7

It's a side project of Stratovarius and Sonata Arctica, and it doesn't sound like a symphonic black metal band? It's gotta suck.


God/Odin/Satan/etc help us if a side project of Stratovarius and Sonata Arctica was symphonic black metal...

Author:  droneriot [ Sun Aug 19, 2012 10:26 pm ]
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OzzyApu, are you going to do the remaining Sepultura albums? I like seeing negative reviews for their later albums. :)

Author:  OzzyApu [ Sun Aug 19, 2012 10:53 pm ]
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I just submitted one for Roorback. Oh yeah, I'm going all the way to the latest. We've all read the Sepultura hate for the latter albums on the forum, but there aren't as many immortalizing it in reviews for those albums. Don't expect complete hate for Dante and on, as they do get "better". It's the 1996-2003 where the real trash exists.

Author:  droneriot [ Sun Aug 19, 2012 11:07 pm ]
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Maybe "better", but still boring as hell. I haven't heard Dante, but I've heard A-Lex and it was a real yawn.

Author:  TheStormIRide [ Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:59 pm ]
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Looking over my Reverence "When Darkness Calls" review, I must say I'm ashamed. There's a lot of typos and errors. If a mod just wants to reject it, I'll resubmit a fixed version. Thanks in advance!

Author:  Metantoine [ Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:26 pm ]
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You can edit the review yourself and put it back in the queue.

Author:  TheStormIRide [ Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:29 pm ]
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Review waiting for approval: you cannot edit the review right now. Wait until it has been moderated.


I checked it out and that's the message I got.

Author:  PostMetalActivist [ Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:52 pm ]
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TheStormIRide wrote:
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Review waiting for approval: you cannot edit the review right now. Wait until it has been moderated.


I checked it out and that's the message I got.

That's because it's not even approved yet. Just copy what you typed, delete it, and make a new one.

Author:  TheStormIRide [ Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:05 pm ]
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PostMetalActivist wrote:
That's because it's not even approved yet. Just copy what you typed, delete it, and make a new one.



That's why I said "reject" and not "delete".

Author:  MalignantThrone [ Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:06 pm ]
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Just edit the review after a mod accepts it (unless the typos are so bad that the review is unacceptable in its present state).

Author:  TheStormIRide [ Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:19 pm ]
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I deleted it on my end and resubmitted. Seemed easier than waiting around... Thanks though!

Author:  GuntherTheUndying [ Wed Aug 22, 2012 9:41 pm ]
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Ozzy, the Sepultura reviews are great. :thumbsup:

Author:  ~Guest 214846 [ Sat Aug 25, 2012 12:36 pm ]
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The fuck is up with this guy's fascination with this album cover?
http://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/A ... ding/8087/

Author:  OzzyApu [ Sat Aug 25, 2012 2:17 pm ]
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GuntherTheUndying wrote:
Ozzy, the Sepultura reviews are great. :thumbsup:

Thank you, I had so much to get out on those albums.

Author:  MalignantThrone [ Sat Aug 25, 2012 2:21 pm ]
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Numerator_41 wrote:
The fuck is up with this guy's fascination with this album cover?
http://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/A ... ding/8087/

I was 13.

Author:  ~Guest 214846 [ Sat Aug 25, 2012 2:34 pm ]
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Ah, gotcha. I think you were more merciful on that album than most would be, haha. Just about everyone I've seen doesn't even count that as an Abnegation release, but I'm guessing that was your introduction to the band so you're probably a lot less biased.

Author:  MalignantThrone [ Sat Aug 25, 2012 2:46 pm ]
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Yeah, I haven't heard any of the stuff they released prior to that album. I just stumbled across the cover art for Verses of the Bleeding one day and thought "HOLY SHIT BRUTAL GORE SHIT THIS IS GONNA BE AWESOME!" Were I to rewrite my review, I'd probably give it a lower score, in the 30-40 range. I was rather timid about giving things really low ratings early on. :lol:

Author:  Veracs [ Sun Aug 26, 2012 4:22 am ]
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MalignantThrone wrote:
Numerator_41 wrote:
The fuck is up with this guy's fascination with this album cover?
http://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/A ... ding/8087/

I was 13.


Thanks for the discovery, their early stuff is some solid NYHC in the vein of shit like Agnostic Front and Merauder. I'm not even going to bother listening to that album though :-P

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