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Author:  Lana [ Tue Jul 27, 2010 2:24 am ]
Post subject:  Review deletion task force
NEW - Please submit only one RDTF-related Oven Fodder post per week to prevent an overload of work in Oven Fodder for the staff.


Overview


I'm creating this task force following a comment I recently made in Oven Fodder, and after receiving permission from the staff. The objective is to have an organized way of reading accepted reviews and weed out what shouldn't be here, starting out with the most reviewed releases. Users interested in helping can ask to be assigned to the album of their choice (from the "Available" list below) and will then have a month to read each review and carefully determine which ones should be deleted for that release. This is not a contest. You won't receive points or prizes. This is only to help the site get rid of unwanted reviews on a large/thorough scale. This will be an ongoing process and I will continue to add more albums to the available list of releases, and each section will get updated as the releases are completed by or assigned to the volunteers.


Rules
  • One release at a time. You can always volunteer to do more when you're done with your current assignment. If you decide you want to switch to another release or you decide you don't have the time anymore, just say so and it will be assigned to someone else.
  • One release, per person, per week. Additional releases may be assigned at any time (after your last report), but please wait at least seven days from your last RDTF-related Oven Fodder post to submit another report.
  • You have up to one month to finish each release. This is way more time than what most people will need, but there should be some limit in case a volunteer forgets or gets too busy to work on it, so another user can take his/her place.
  • First-come, first-served. The first person to request an album in this thread will have it assigned to them.
  • Be familiar with the review rules and proper spelling/grammar. Music description is the biggest thing to keep in mind when reading each review, but all other rules, general review knowledge, and knowledge of English spelling/grammar is of course required to come to proper conclusions about which reviews should stay or go.
  • Don't rush! It's not a contest. The most important thing, and the whole reason, for doing this is to get rid of reviews that don't belong.
  • Preferably be familiar with the album in question. There isn't much way to enforce this, but it's best that you know the release you want to do so you'll be aware of any factual inaccuracies or objectively wrong music description.
  • There is no required number for how many reviews you should report for deletion. It's possible that no reviews need to be deleted on a page, and that's fine.
  • Feel free to use this thread for cases that you're unsure about to get additional opinions.
Process
  1. Determine which release you want to read.
  2. Post in this thread when you decide and state the name. If you're the first person to request that release, you can automatically start, and 30 days will begin counting down from your post date.
  3. Use as much of the one month as you need to read every review, but don't post your findings until you have read all of the reviews.
  4. Post the review(s) that should be deleted in Oven Fodder, along with a mention that your findings are related to this task force. If none need to be deleted, post a message in this thread or PM me.
  5. I'll keep an eye on Oven Fodder every day, but you can write a message here or PM me when you've completed a release, and optionally you can then ask for a new assignment if desired.

Below is the list we'll use to keep track of the releases. The number next to each release name in the "Available" section is the current number of reviews for that release. The names of the users assigned to each release will be written next to the name for every respective release in the "In Progress" and "Done" sections, as well as a due date in the "In Progress" section.


AVAILABLE

1349 - Hellfire (14)
1349 - Revelations of the Black Flame (17)
Agalloch - The Mantle (20)
Ahab - The Call of the Wretched Sea (14)
Akercocke - Antichrist (17)
Alcest - Souvenirs d'un Autre Monde (16)
Alestorm - Captain Morgan's Revenge (20)
All Shall Perish - The Price of Existence (13)
Amon Amarth - Fate of Norns (17)
Amon Amarth - Versus the World (16)
Amon Amarth - With Oden On Our Side (16)
Amorphis - Silent Waters (13)
Amorphis - Tales from the Thousand Lakes (13)
Angra - Temple of Shadows (15)
Anthrax - Among the Living (18)
Arch Enemy - Rise of the Tyrant (18)
Arch Enemy - Wages of Sin (13)
Arsis - A Celebration of Guilt (17)
Atheist - Unquestionable Presence (13)
Bathory - Blood Fire Death (18)
Behemoth - Zos Kia Cultus (Here and Beyond) (14)
Beherit - Engram (13)
Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath (14)
Black Sabbath - Born Again (15)
Black Sabbath - Paranoid (15)
Blind Guardian - A Night at the Opera (17)
Blind Guardian - A Twist in the Myth (17)
Blind Guardian - Somewhere Far Beyond (16)
Blind Guardian - Tales from the Twilight World (14)
Bloodbath - Unblessing the Purity (14)
Blut aus Nord - The Work Which Transforms God (14)
Brain Drill - Apocalyptic Feasting (18)
Bruce Dickinson - The Chemical Wedding (15)
Burzum - Belus (17)
Burzum - Dauði Baldrs (13)
Burzum - Hvis Lyset Tar Oss (21)
Candlemass - King of the Grey Islands (13)
Cannibal Corpse - Evisceration Plague (20)
Cannibal Corpse - Kill (18)
Cannibal Corpse - The Bleeding (13)
Cannibal Corpse - The Wretched Spawn (13)
Cannibal Corpse - Tomb of the Mutilated (16)
Carcass - Reek of Putrefaction (13)
Children of Bodom - Are You Dead Yet? (17)
Children of Bodom - Blooddrunk (18)
Children of Bodom - Follow the Reaper (15)
Cradle of Filth - Dusk... And Her Embrace (14)
Cradle of Filth - Godspeed on the Devil's Thunder (14)
Cradle of Filth - Thornography (17)
Cryptopsy - Whisper Supremacy (14)
Cynic - Focus (19)
Cynic - Traced in Air (18)
Danzig - Danzig (14)
Dark Tranquillity - Character (17)
Dark Tranquillity - Fiction (20)
Darkthrone - Dark Thrones and Black Flags (15)
Darkthrone - F.O.A.D. (17)
Darkthrone - Goatlord (13)
Darkthrone - The Cult is Alive (17)
Death - Human (16)
Death - Individual Thought Patterns (17)
Death - Scream Bloody Gore (14)
Death - Symbolic (16)
Decapitated - Organic Hallucinosis (13)
Decapitated - Winds of Creation (15)
Deicide - Legion (17)
Deicide - Scars of the Crucifix (14)
Deicide - The Stench of Redemption (14)
Deicide - Till Death Do Us Part (13)
Demolition Hammer - Epidemic of Violence (13)
Demons & Wizards - Touched by the Crimson King (13)
Dethklok - The Dethalbum (22)
Dimmu Borgir - Death Cult Armageddon (20)
Dimmu Borgir - Enthrone Darkness Triumphant (16)
Dimmu Borgir - Puritanical Euphoric Misanthropia (16)
Dimmu Borgir - Stormblåst (13)
Dio - Holy Diver (13)
Dissection (Swe)- Reinkaos (18)
Dissection (Swe)- Storm of the Light's Bane (20)
Down - NOLA (17)
DragonForce - Sonic Firestorm (16)
DragonForce - Ultra Beatdown (19)
DragonForce - Valley of the Damned (19)
Dream Theater - Awake (16)
Dream Theater - Images and Words (15)
Dream Theater - Metropolis Pt. 2: Scenes from a Memory (16)
Dream Theater - Octavarium (20)
Dream Theater - Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence (14)
Dream Theater - Systematic Chaos (13)
Dream Theater - Train of Thought (19)
Drudkh - Autumn Aurora (13)
Ensiferum - Victory Songs (15)
Enslaved - Vertebrae (14)
Exodus - Bonded by Blood (15)
Exodus - Fabulous Disaster (13)
Exodus - Tempo of the Damned (16)
Exodus - The Atrocity Exhibition... Exhibition A (14)
Fear Factory - Demanufacture (14)
Finntroll - Nattfödd (13)
Gojira - From Mars to Sirius (13)
Gorgoroth - Antichrist (14)
Gorgoroth - Pentagram (14)
Halford - Resurrection (14)
Heathen - Victims of Deception (14)
Helloween - Chameleon (14)
Helloween - Keeper of the Seven Keys Part I (13)
Iced Earth - Burnt Offerings (18)
Iced Earth - Framing Armageddon (20)
Iced Earth - The Crucible of Man (18)
Ihsahn - The Adversary (13)
Immortal - All Shall Fall (13)
Immortal - At the Heart of Winter (17)
Immortal - Blizzard Beasts (13)
Immortal - Pure Holocaust (17)
Immortal - Sons of Northern Darkness (18)
In Flames - A Sense of Purpose (19)
In Flames - Come Clarity (21)
In Flames - Reroute to Remain (15)
In Flames - Soundtrack to Your Escape (15)
In Flames - The Jester Race (15)
Into Eternity - Buried in Oblivion (15)
Into Eternity - The Scattering of Ashes (13)
Iron Maiden - A Matter of Life and Death (24)
Iron Maiden - Brave New World (16)
Iron Maiden - Dance of Death (15)
Iron Maiden - Iron Maiden (17)
Iron Maiden - Killers (16)
Iron Maiden - No Prayer for the Dying (14)
Iron Maiden - Piece of Mind (14)
Iron Maiden - Powerslave (17)
Iron Maiden - Seventh Son of a Seventh Son (14)
Iron Maiden - The Number of the Beast (18)
Iron Maiden - The X Factor (16)
Job for a Cowboy - Genesis (20)
Judas Priest - Jugulator (14)
Judas Priest - Nostradamus (14)
Judas Priest - Sad Wings of Destiny (14)
Katatonia - Last Fair Deal Gone Down (15)
Kreator - Hordes of Chaos (20)
Kreator - Pleasure to Kill (17)
Lacuna Coil - Comalies (17)
Lamb of God - As the Palaces Burn (16)
Lamb of God - Ashes of the Wake (19)
Lykathea Aflame - Elvenefris (15)
Manowar - Gods of War (19)
Manowar - Hail to England (14)
Manowar - Kings of Metal (17)
Manowar - Sign of the Hammer (15)
Manowar - The Triumph of Steel (16)
Manowar - Warriors of the World (14)
Marduk - Panzer Division Marduk (15)
Marduk - Rom 5:12 (17)
Mayhem - Chimera (14)
Mayhem (Nor) - De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas (19)
Mayhem (Nor) - Deathcrush (18)
Megadeth - Countdown to Extinction (17)
Megadeth - Endgame (15)
Megadeth - Killing is My Business... And Business is Good! (14)
Megadeth - Peace Sells... But Who's Buying? (19)
Megadeth - Rust in Peace (24)
Megadeth - So Far, So Good...So What! (18)
Megadeth - The System Has Failed (17)
Megadeth - The World Needs a Hero (14)
Megadeth - United Abominations (23)
Meshuggah - Chaosphere (18)
Meshuggah - ObZen (14)
Metallica - Death Magnetic (22)
Metallica - Metallica (15)
Metallica - Ride the Lightning (18)
Metallica - The Day That Never Comes (18)
Morbid Angel - Altars of Madness (21)
Morbid Angel - Heretic (14)
Napalm Death - Scum (14)
Ne Obliviscaris - The Aurora Veil (14)
Necrophagist - Epitaph (20)
Necrophagist - Onset of Putrefaction (15)
Nevermore - Dead Heart In A Dead World (19)
Nevermore - Dreaming Neon Black (15)
Nevermore - Enemies of Reality (18)
Nevermore - This Godless Endeavor (18)
Nightwish - Angels Fall First (16)
Nightwish - Century Child (21)
Obituary - Cause of Death (16)
Obituary - Xecutioner's Return (14)
Obscura - Cosmogenesis (14)
Opeth - Ghost Reveries (18)
Opeth - Morningrise (15)
Opeth - My Arms, Your Hearse (14)
Opeth - Orchid (18)
Opeth - Still Life (15)
Opeth - Watershed (22)
Origin - Informis Infinitas Inhumanitas (14)
Pantera - Cowboys from Hell (16)
Pig Destroyer - Prowler in the Yard (14)
Psycroptic - The Scepter of the Ancients (14)
Queensrÿche - Operation: Mindcrime II (14)
Repulsion - Horrified (15)
Sepultura - Beneath the Remains (16)
Sepultura - Chaos A.D. (16)
Slayer - Hell Awaits (14)
Slayer (USA)- Christ Illusion (20)
Slayer (USA)- God Hates Us All (19)
Slayer (USA)- Seasons in the Abyss (18)
Sodom - Agent Orange (16)
Soilwork - Natural Born Chaos (14)
Soilwork - Stabbing the Drama (15)
Sonata Arctica - Ecliptica (14)
Sonata Arctica - Unia (15)
Suffocation - Suffocation (14)
Symphony X - The Odyssey (14)
Testament - Practice What You Preach (14)
Testament - The Formation of Damnation (19)
Testament - The Gathering (17)
Testament - The New Order (14)
The Berzerker - Dissimulate (14)
Velvet Cacoon - Genevieve (16)
Venom - Welcome to Hell (14)
Vio-lence - Eternal Nightmare (14)
Vital Remains - Dechristianize (14)
Vital Remains - Icons of Evil (15)
Waking the Cadaver - Demo 2006 (17)
Warbringer - War Without End (15)
Wintersun - Wintersun (21)
Wolves in the Throne Room - Two Hunters (18)


IN PROGRESS

Equilibrium - Sagas (KerberosOfHades | 10/22/10)
Gorgoroth - Under the Sign of Hell (OlioTheSmall | 10/21/10)
Lacuna Coil - Karmacode (OzzyApu | 10/21/10)
Mastodon - Crack the Skye (HarbouringTheSoul | 10/16/10)
Origin - Antithesis (OnwardToGolgotha | 10/20/10)
Summoning - Let Mortal Heroes Sing Your Fame (Catachthonian | 10/14/10)


DONE

3 Inches of Blood - Advance and Vanquish (BastardHead)
Alice in Chains - Dirt (HarbouringTheSoul)
Agalloch - Ashes Against the Grain (KerberosOfHades)
Agalloch - Pale Folklore (caspian)
Amon Amarth - Twilight of the Thunder God (yentass)
Anthrax - We've Come for You All (wakemeup36)
Arsis - We Are the Nightmare (hells_unicorn)
At the Gates - Slaughter of the Soul (ForNaught)
Behemoth (Pol)- Demigod (yentass)
Behemoth (Pol)- The Apostasy (yentass)
Black Sabbath - Headless Cross (orionmetalhead)
Blind Guardian - Imaginations from the Other Side (Pippin_Took)
Blind Guardian - Nightfall in Middle-Earth (Catachthonian)
Burzum - Filosofem (googens)
Carcass - Heartwork (OnwardToGolgotha)
Celtic Frost - Monotheist (KerberosOfHades)
Cryptopsy - None So Vile (hells_unicorn)
Cryptopsy - The Unspoken King (googens)
Dark Angel - Darkness Descends (hells_unicorn)
Darkthrone - A Blaze in the Northern Sky (Naught)
Darkthrone - Panzerfaust (Naught)
Darkthrone - Soulside Journey (Naught)
Darkthrone - Transilvanian Hunger (WebOfPiss)
Darkthrone - Under a Funeral Moon (Naught)
Death - The Sound of Perseverance (HarbouringTheSoul)
Decrepit Birth - Diminishing Between Worlds (RapeTheDead)
Dimmu Borgir - In Sorte Diaboli (KerberosOfHades)
DragonForce - Inhuman Rampage (ThePipster)
Electric Wizard - Dopethrone (KerberosOfHades)
Emperor - In the Nightside Eclipse (hells_unicorn)
Ensiferum - Ensiferum (BastardHead)
Hail of Bullets - Of Frost and War (OlioTheSmall)
Iced Earth - Night of the Stormrider (googens)
In Flames - Clayman (googens)
In Flames - Colony (OzzyApu)
In Flames - Whoracle (Snowgrave)
Killswitch Engage - Holy Diver (KerberosOfHades)
Machine Head - The Blackening (googens)
Mastodon - Blood Mountain (yentass)
Mastodon - Leviathan (yentass)
Mayhem (Nor) - Grand Declaration of War (HarbouringTheSoul)
Mayhem (Nor) - Ordo Ad Chao (ForNaught)
Mercyful Fate - Melissa (BastardHead)
Meshuggah - Catch Thirtythree (yentass)
Meshuggah - I (yentass)
Metallica - ...And Justice for All (caspian)
Metallica - Master of Puppets (caspian)
Metallica - St. Anger (HarbouringTheSoul)
Nightwish - Dark Passion Play (KerberosOfHades)
Nightwish - Once (KerberosOfHades)
Nile - Annihilation of the Wicked (KerberosOfHades)
Nile - Ithyphallic (KerberosOfHades)
Opeth - Blackwater Park (mentalendoscopy)
Overkill - The Years of Decay (Naught)
Pantera - Vulgar Display of Power (wakemeup36)
Primordial - To the Nameless Dead (KerberosOfHades)
Six Feet Under - Graveyard Classics 2 (googens)
Slayer (USA)- Haunting the Chapel (Catachthonian)
Slayer (USA) - Reign in Blood (KerberosOfHades)
Slayer (USA) - World Painted Blood (wakemeup36)
Soilwork - Figure Number Five (googens)
Summoning - Oath Bound (KerberosOfHades)
Symphony X - Paradise Lost (hells_unicorn)
Trivium - Ascendancy (OzzyApu)
Trivium - The Crusade (OzzyApu)
Ulver - Bergtatt - Et Eeventyr i 5 Capitler (caspian)
Ulver - Nattens Madrigal - Aatte Hymne til Ulven i Manden (caspian)
Waking the Cadaver - Perverse Recollections of a Necromangler (Gravemarker)
Wormed - Planisphaerium (WebOfPiss)
Author:  KerberosOfHades [ Tue Jul 27, 2010 2:39 am ]
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I can do Dark Passion Play by Nightwish, I'm highly familiar with that album and I don't think too many others here will be keen to do it.
Author:  WebOfPiss [ Tue Jul 27, 2010 3:17 am ]
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Wouldn't it make sense to mark the post in Oven Fodder as being related to this thread?

I'll take Transilvanian Hunger.

Edit: By that I mean we should post in the oven fodder thread, along with the review to be deleted, that the post/album is related to THIS thread, thus making it easier for you to find which ones are finished, instead of having to double check or something.
Author:  Ice_As_Steel [ Tue Jul 27, 2010 3:23 am ]
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This all seems a bit unnecesary and overzealous. Does it hurt to let some old reviews stay online? Is this some kind of ritual purification of the site?
Author:  Lana [ Tue Jul 27, 2010 4:04 am ]
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WebOfPiss wrote:
Wouldn't it make sense to mark the post in Oven Fodder as being related to this thread?

Sure, that would be good. I'll add it to the OP.

Ice_As_Steel wrote:
This all seems a bit unnecesary and overzealous. Does it hurt to let some old reviews stay online? Is this some kind of ritual purification of the site?

I think if the staff believed that, they wouldn't bother deleting much or any that show up in Oven Fodder. Sure, this is a mechanical and organized way to go about it, but I see the site only benefiting from this. The website doesn't need bad reviews clogging it up and I don't think the userbase reading them appreciates it either. I'd be interested in hearing more thoughts on this subject though.
Author:  caspian [ Tue Jul 27, 2010 4:10 am ]
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i think as long as this sort of stuff doesn't push up the minimum word count/the whole "IM AN ENGLISH MAJOR" thing to crazy levels, it's all good. Some people definitely get a bit caught up in this sort of stuff though. But yeah all in all this is a fine idea.
Author:  WebOfPiss [ Tue Jul 27, 2010 4:29 am ]
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You're just worried about your piss poor grammar being scrutinized than deleted. ;)
Author:  wakemeup36 [ Tue Jul 27, 2010 4:46 am ]
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I'm taking World Painted Blood. I'll have fun analyzing my own review. Oh, and I'll take a look at the others too.
Author:  caspian [ Tue Jul 27, 2010 5:05 am ]
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WebOfPiss wrote:
You're just worried about your piss poor grammar being scrutinized than deleted. ;)


maybe :lol:, but it's more about my preference for short and punchy reviews; I'll take them over a long and overwrought essay anyday.
Author:  droneriot [ Tue Jul 27, 2010 5:07 am ]
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I agree, but not every short review is punchy. In fact, I'd go as far as saying not many of them are.
Author:  WebOfPiss [ Tue Jul 27, 2010 5:20 am ]
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Wormed-Planisphaerium is mine.
Author:  Lana [ Tue Jul 27, 2010 5:58 am ]
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wakemeup36 wrote:
I'm taking World Painted Blood. I'll have fun analyzing my own review. Oh, and I'll take a look at the others too.

Sure, though I'll take a look at your review for it, to add whatever level of fairness that might bring. Same goes for anyone taking a release for which they've done a review. If they're still around, feel free to take other Slayer releases, but only work on one at at time as I said in the OP.

caspian wrote:
i think as long as this sort of stuff doesn't push up the minimum word count/the whole "IM AN ENGLISH MAJOR" thing to crazy levels, it's all good. Some people definitely get a bit caught up in this sort of stuff though. But yeah all in all this is a fine idea.
caspian wrote:
maybe :lol:, but it's more about my preference for short and punchy reviews; I'll take them over a long and overwrought essay anyday.

I think they each have their place, but I tend to agree that I wouldn't be particularly fond of all reviews being long and wordy, since that doesn't always necessarily mean good, and sometimes it can be a bad thing in itself. Getting the point across in a concise way is what I prefer as a reader, but long ones done well are a real treat also.
Author:  OzzyApu [ Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:18 am ]
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I'm in, Lana, though I need to go take an eye exam today so I'll be right back. :lol:

Edit: Oh, forgot to claim one.

Trivium - Ascendancy

Oh yeah, you're goin' down, heafy metal.

Edit 2: I need to take a breather, because these Trivium reviews are terrible. Bad band, I got that part, but holy crap. :(
Author:  Snowgrave [ Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:57 am ]
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I'll do In Flames' Whoracle.
Author:  failsafeman [ Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:17 am ]
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Ice_As_Steel wrote:
This all seems a bit unnecesary and overzealous. Does it hurt to let some old reviews stay online? Is this some kind of ritual purification of the site?

Actually our standards get progressively higher as the site goes on. This is a good thing. I've been ritually purifying the site myself for years now.
Author:  wakemeup36 [ Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:22 am ]
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I'll take Vulgar Display of Power next.
Author:  Gravemarker [ Tue Jul 27, 2010 4:03 pm ]
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I'll take Waking The Cadaver's Perverse Recollections....
Author:  KerberosOfHades [ Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:00 pm ]
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I've done Dark Passion Play, now I'll move on to Celtic Frost's Monotheist.

Also, Lana, could you take a look at my reviews for Monotheist and Dark Passion Play to ensure I'm not being sub-consciously biased?
Author:  Lana [ Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:01 pm ]
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Updated to here.

I'll add more choices in a few days. The ones that are up there currently are the first 200 releases with the most reviews, so I'll add another 100 or so in the coming days.
Author:  Lana [ Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:14 pm ]
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KerberosOfHades wrote:
Also, Lana, could you take a look at my reviews for Monotheist and Dark Passion Play to ensure I'm not being sub-consciously biased?

They look good to me, thanks for bringing it up.
Author:  droneriot [ Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:19 pm ]
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Naught seems intent on perpetually ignoring procedure.
Author:  Naught [ Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:20 pm ]
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Recently, I submitted a comprehensive list of several reviews for Overkill's fourth full-length album, The Years of Decay (1989) which are to be removed from the Encyclopaedia Metallum. Those said recommendations may be viewed at the respective oven fodder. As of late, I have been browsing through each review pertaining to Overkill's discography in search of reviews which are to be deleted.

droneriot wrote:
Naught seems intent on perpetually ignoring procedure.


Originally, I thought that this thread would not have accumulated much of a reaction from the forum-users, however, I stand corrected on that matter. Nevertheless, I will note each post I submit which recommends reviews which should be removed from the Encyclopaedia Metallum within this thread.
Author:  Lana [ Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:24 pm ]
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Heh, yeah. No worries though, Naught, but if you want to do more, it's best to post your choice here first so multiple people don't work on the same album. Thanks to you and all who have contributed so far.
Author:  ~Guest 135946 [ Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:40 pm ]
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I hope some of my reviews hold up against the purge.
Author:  KerberosOfHades [ Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:22 pm ]
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Being a university student with too much spare time on my hands, I have finished with Monotheist and now I'll move on to In Sorte Diaboli by Dimmu Borgir.
Author:  mentalendoscopy [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 12:36 am ]
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I get the feeling "Blackwater Park" is in desperate need of a good purging, due to the rather polarized views on the band that has, of course, always been there. Count me in.
Author:  KerberosOfHades [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:34 am ]
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I have a question related to a potential factual accuracy in a review.

Quote:
In Sorte Diaboli is not quite black metal. I would say that it is more on the lines of melodic death metal. It’s not raw enough for me to really consider it black metal at this point. Dimmu Borgir has refined their music to break out of black metal stereotypes (even if they still look and perform live in that style)


That's taken from a review for Dimmu's ISD, would describing the band as melodeath count as a factual inaccuracy, even if the reviewer makes it clear it's an opinion, and gives justification for his opinion? In this case, it isn't raw enough to be black metal, in the reviewers opinion.

Otherwise, the review in question is pretty decent.

Can I get people's opinions on this?
Author:  OzzyApu [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:47 am ]
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It's like calling Shining's (Swe) later material (strictly talking about IV-V) black metal. In the general use of the term, it isn't black metal. In a looser form, it is, and one can clearly hear it, even if it isn't dominant in force. For Dimmu Borgir, their early material was considerably more black metal than that particular album, but that doesn't dismiss that album from carrying black metal. In that sense, the reviewer is incorrect, but 1) I wouldn't hold his own opinion as fact because it isn't meant to be taken that way and 2) that album doesn't fit black metal in the general sense anyway.

Kind of a mix, but I think you could let it slide. Like I'd call In Flames' The Jester Race heavy / power (very loose when I say that) with harsh vocals. One can clearly hear those in the music, yet it would still be considered melodic death just by the way it forms together.

BTW NO ONE TAKE TRIVIUM's THE CRUSADE. Heafy and I are going to throw down after I kick Ascendancy's ass.
Author:  yentass [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:36 am ]
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I'll take Behemoth - Demigod.
Author:  KerberosOfHades [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:53 am ]
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Sorry to chew up more thread space; but some of this album' reviews are giving me a few head-scratching moments. There's another review where the reviewer refers to Silenoz's vocals. Silenoz does no vocals, the reviewer apparently means ICS Vortex. Again, the review is an otherwise good one, with a blatant factual error. Is this enough to warrant the review's deletion?
Author:  Lana [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 3:27 am ]
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I personally don't think that's worth a deletion, but an email to the reviewer mentioning that should probably be done. Correct me if I'm wrong, mods or anyone.
Author:  OzzyApu [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 3:30 am ]
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Lana wrote:
I personally don't think that's worth a deletion, but an email to the reviewer mentioning that should probably be done. Correct me if I'm wrong, mods or anyone.

That would be a suitable response for that kind of an error.
Author:  KerberosOfHades [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 3:38 am ]
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OK, thanks Ozzy and Lana.
Author:  yentass [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 4:43 am ]
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yentass wrote:
I'll take Behemoth - Demigod.

...And done!

And Kerberos, in case of doubt - just include it in the list on the oven fodder with an explanation (although a tiny fallacy in facts like the one you've mention wouldn't be considered as a cause for deletion, IMO), ultimately the mods will decide which ones to delete and which ones to keep. Chances are that some of your list will be kept anyway, since different mods have different standarts for a deletable review.
Author:  KerberosOfHades [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:04 am ]
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Done with In Sorte Diaboli.

I guess I'll move onto Nightwish's Once.
Author:  BastardHead [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:34 am ]
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I have nothing better to do for a while, so I'll take Ensiferum's debut.


EDIT: Aaaaand I had more time on my hands than I figured, so it's done already. I can take 3 Inches of Blood's Advance and Vanquish next, although I assume I'll flip as much shit over the word "elitist" as I did with "viking metal" on my last crusade.
Author:  Lana [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 11:29 am ]
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:lol:

Cheers everyone, great work!

I'll post the next 100 releases tomorrow so that there are more choices.
Author:  mentalendoscopy [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:14 pm ]
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Done.
Author:  RapeTheDead [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:36 pm ]
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I guess I'll tackle Diminishing Between Worlds, if for no other reason than to give myself something to do.

EDIT: Done! Not gonna go after another one right away, but I'll definitely be cleansing some other albums of shitty reviews sometime in the near future.
Author:  wakemeup36 [ Wed Jul 28, 2010 3:24 pm ]
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We've Come for You All is my next victim.
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