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The Official Review Discussion Thread
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Author:  lord_ghengis [ Tue Sep 24, 2013 5:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Giving albums that just came out a perfect score.
Hah, that new Anaal Nathrakh review is disgustingly barebones, kinda makes me miss the old days of once an album has 10-15 reviews, the standards are higher.
Author:  Metantoine [ Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:03 am ]
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It's short but there's musical description, a 3 pointers, I guess.

http://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/A ... 351377/693

Talking of Deicide, I was reading this one: http://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/D ... nantTyrant

"It is their best album alongside The Stench of Redemption and beats the hell out of the debut." LOL nope.
Author:  Zerberus [ Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:13 am ]
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Metantoine wrote:
It's short but there's musical description, a 3 pointers, I guess.

http://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/A ... 351377/693

Talking of Deicide, I was reading this one: http://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/D ... nantTyrant

"It is their best album alongside The Stench of Redemption and beats the hell out of the debut." LOL nope.


I kinda like Legion :(
Author:  Metantoine [ Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:30 am ]
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I do too but their debut is simply way better! I only like the first two, TSOR and TDDUP.
Author:  hakarl [ Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:43 am ]
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What's wrong with Serpents of the Light?
Author:  lord_ghengis [ Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:48 am ]
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The concept of Legion being their best is hardly new... hell I kinda thought it was the consensus?
Author:  Metantoine [ Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:53 am ]
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Oh I don't mind the opinion that says it's their best but I do mind people who are saying that it's miles ahead of the debut. Also, I guess I haven't heard their mid era enough recently to judge it accordingly.
Author:  PhilosophicalFrog [ Tue Sep 24, 2013 11:43 am ]
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Hmm...I'm fairly sure Legion is leaps better than the debut. The album just drips with this strangeness that's hard to place. Much more memorable.
Author:  BastardHead [ Tue Sep 24, 2013 12:53 pm ]
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The guy is right, Legion and Stench are their two best, though the debut and Serpents of the Light aren't too far behind. It's everything else that sucks really badly.
Author:  Thumbman [ Tue Sep 24, 2013 1:20 pm ]
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Definitely the only 4 good ones. I do have a soft spot for Insineratehymn as it was the first death metal album I ever owned, although there's too much filler to call it a good album.
Author:  AnimeDad [ Tue Sep 24, 2013 4:01 pm ]
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Stench... doesn't belong in the same discussion as s/t or Legion. The buttrock solos make it fun for a while, but there's no dimension to it compared to the first couple albums.
Author:  droneriot [ Tue Sep 24, 2013 4:24 pm ]
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Argh, why do people bother sorting these heaps of shit by which one smells best? Deicide are by far the worst major band from the Florida scene, and death metal in general.
Author:  PhilosophicalFrog [ Tue Sep 24, 2013 5:33 pm ]
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yayayay another acceptation!
Author:  Empyreal [ Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:16 pm ]
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http://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/B ... nalAcrobat

Great review. About sums up why this album slays most trends and posers!
Author:  Zodijackyl [ Tue Sep 24, 2013 9:38 pm ]
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PhilosophicalFrog wrote:
yayayay another acceptation!


This reminds me, a note about pending reviews:
The review queue has had a backlog for a while, I sorted through over half of the ~100 reviews in the last day or so, and I'm going to finish handling the reviews from the last five days tonight. All reviews should be checked within a few hours, unless I have previously rejected them, or they're for Satyricon's s/t or Carcass' new one, I just don't have the patience for those.
edit: done

One of the things I love about reading through reviews is the contrast it gives me - it helps me appreciate different qualities in writing. dismember_marcin's reviews always have so much enthusiasm, some good reference points, and the read like a 90s zine - the guy loves death metal so much that despite his English being as brutal as the death metal he loves so much, they're great reviews.
Author:  droneriot [ Wed Sep 25, 2013 4:03 am ]
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http://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/D ... 61/Ilwhyan

About that review. Two questions I have are when he talked about Devoured, does he mean Devourment? Because obviously there are bands named Devoured on the Archives, but I've never heard anyone talk about them. Second question is why that paragraph about modern brutal death metal is there in the first place? I have not heard Drawn and Quartered, but from what I know it seems he appears to be comparing them to a totally unrelated brand of death metal for no reason.
Author:  hakarl [ Wed Sep 25, 2013 8:02 am ]
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Yes, Devourment. I don't know how I missed that typo. I'm guessing Microsoft Office must've auto-corrected it at some point.

It's related to modern brutal death metal and slam inspired by Devourment, not that one band specifically. I included it as a clarification of what I absolutely do not mean by describing the music as 'relentlessly brutal'. The world 'brutal' describes the album extremely well, but given the brutal death metal subgenre connotation, I felt that such a descriptor would be highly misleading if it was left unclarified.

Here, I mention that I use the word with a different meaning that the reader might expect:
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the music can be aptly described as extremely brutal – among many other things – even though it has ultimately little to do with the death metal subgenre that Devoured and its ilk pioneered.

Then I follow it with a low-level description of the differences.

Was the purpose of this part left unclear to you because of poor writing, or do you simply think that making this distinction should be unnecessary given the context?
Author:  droneriot [ Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:32 am ]
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Ilwhyan wrote:
Was the purpose of this part left unclear to you because of poor writing, or do you simply think that making this distinction should be unnecessary given the context?

The latter. You compare them to Incantation and Immolation in the first paragraph, which made it obvious enough to me that they aren't going for the slam death type of "brutality". I guess a little extra explanation can't hurt for those readers who are a bit slow on the uptake, but for myself it seemed redundant.
Author:  Subrick [ Thu Sep 26, 2013 10:02 pm ]
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More fun courtesy of our unfriendly neighborhood bitterman. Today's topic: The Faceless aren't a metal band.

http://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/T ... /bitterman
Author:  OzzyApu [ Thu Sep 26, 2013 10:15 pm ]
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bitterman wrote:
They found a great deal of success playing conventional but technical deafkore with Cynic overtones (vocoder included) and then "progressed" into a modern tek-deaf band

Huh, "deaf". Humor with the same class as a slug trail.
Author:  lord_ghengis [ Thu Sep 26, 2013 10:54 pm ]
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We've got a genre pun... He's the return of UltraBoris.
Author:  Metantoine [ Thu Sep 26, 2013 11:01 pm ]
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Subrick wrote:
More fun courtesy of our unfriendly neighborhood bitterman. Today's topic: The Faceless aren't a metal band.

http://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/T ... /bitterman

Well to be fair, they shouldn't be a band at all.
Author:  droneriot [ Fri Sep 27, 2013 7:19 am ]
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The opening and closing paragraph's of autothrall's Master review left me scratching my head. Obviously Master were better than any of the other bands he lists, and still are.
Author:  SadisticGratification [ Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:16 am ]
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That bitterman review actually read ok :lol: I was expecting something vaguely trollish about but alas no. He is a bit ridiculous but he can write ok and I actually mostly agree with that review :lol:
Author:  Kveldulfr [ Sat Sep 28, 2013 4:24 pm ]
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Yes! The Satyricon review got accepted!
Author:  PhilosophicalFrog [ Mon Sep 30, 2013 6:12 pm ]
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Well Altar of Plagues just got shit on. So, yeah. I'm withLG on this one.
Author:  OzzyApu [ Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:44 pm ]
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Wow, PhilosophicalFrog, you just did my job. Now I don't have to write mine. :) I wouldn't have typed any of that dialog stuff if it was me, but the rest is fine.
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the rest of the songs are just a collection of jarring sounds and noises on the guitar.

When AoP make jarring sounds and noises, it becomes music. Mammal and the debut did this superbly. I don't know what the hell happened to make the same noises just... noises.
Author:  Subrick [ Mon Sep 30, 2013 11:22 pm ]
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Do it anyway. That album needs more negative reviews. It'll also continue the trend of known forum guys hating the album and non-forum guys enjoying it.
Author:  hakarl [ Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:38 am ]
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Subrick wrote:
Do it anyway. That album needs more negative reviews. It'll also continue the trend of known forum guys hating the album and non-forum guys enjoying it.

Yes! Save the reputation of the forum elite (tm).

To be honest, I've felt like reviewing it as well, though I wouldn't be able to put overmuch vitriol in it. Despite what utter garbage the album is, the band has always come across as one that created music from honest, genuine inspiration. That doesn't make it any less questionable, mind.
Author:  Subrick [ Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:41 am ]
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I listened to the first four tracks of the album a week or so ago, and I was so baffled by it that I'm questioning listening to the rest of it. Just what in the hell was their mindset when they wrote that record?
Author:  hakarl [ Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:44 am ]
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With no small detachment from the usual mindset of songwriting where the artist firmly stands behind his or her work, but no doubt with a certain vision and intent. It's hard to say whether it's simply conveyed very poorly, or if the whole thing is fundamentally, by design, impossible for me to enjoy.
Author:  Subrick [ Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:52 am ]
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I really like the vocals, but that's about it. I'm listening to God Alone again because of this discussion, and I just cannot wrap my head around this. I won't go as far as lord_ghengis did and proclaim it the worst song of all time, but it's still a marvel of bad almost everything to behold.
Author:  lord_ghengis [ Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:52 am ]
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Its a genuine, inventive piece of music, but it sounds like.ass. I genuinely think the horrid, disgusting riff that drives the nausating failure that is that abysmal song is.as bad as anything I've ever heard. I never questioned the honesty of that shitpile.
Author:  PhilosophicalFrog [ Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:14 am ]
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Ilwhyan wrote:
With no small detachment from the usual mindset of songwriting where the artist firmly stands behind his or her work, but no doubt with a certain vision and intent. It's hard to say whether it's simply conveyed very poorly, or if the whole thing is fundamentally, by design, impossible for me to enjoy.


I toed this line very carefully when writing about it. I feel like maybe, just maybe, I didn't "get it" - undoubtedly, I'll get that flack because I kept mentioning how it lacks riffs - but I still stand by the fact that the album is just....not good.
Author:  TheStormIRide [ Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:10 pm ]
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Does anyone else think that the Albion Codex got what they were asking for when they told Tony he should have asked permission to do a review?
Author:  Metantoine [ Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:39 pm ]
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YES! You should also write one :)
Author:  TheStormIRide [ Tue Oct 01, 2013 2:46 pm ]
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I just might... Thanks for asking me about that Eternium album by the way, Tony!
Author:  Razakel [ Wed Oct 02, 2013 2:56 am ]
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annnnnnnnnnnd bitterman hits the new Carcass. This guy is such a joke.
Author:  BastardHead [ Wed Oct 02, 2013 3:22 am ]
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I have a love/hate thing with bitterman. Clearly he's just trying to get attention by being overly hyperbolic and exclusively negative, but at the same time he's become famous in this subforum despite not making a single post. He can drum up discussion without ever having to mention to everybody that he wrote a new review. He's the anti-Subrick.
Author:  MutantClannfear [ Wed Oct 02, 2013 3:28 am ]
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Not to mention that Surgical Steel needs at least review that isn't thoughtless fluff praise anyways. Hell, I hadn't even heard it until I decided to write this comment (it's pretty solid so far, actually), but holy shit it annoys me to death that practically nobody's willing to even consider that it might be anything less than a 90% thus far. This happens a lot with new albums, it seems - the middling/negative reviews only start pouring in after months or years after the fact and it's irritating.
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