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Author:  CHAIRTHROWER [ Wed Apr 24, 2024 9:24 am ]
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Um, is it normal that Metallica's discography list is swamped by innumerable "live" albums, to the point of ridiculousness?...

Author:  nightbreaker33 [ Wed Apr 24, 2024 7:50 pm ]
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Glad to see a new Gallows Whisper release that came out of nowhere and took me by suprise. Of course it was reviewed by none other than my fellow writer CHAIRTHROWER. Good job man! I also like that it is short but still very descriptive. I haven't listened to the demo because I want to listen to it on cassette which I ordered directly from GW's bandcamp! (50 cassetes limited edition).

Author:  aidane154 [ Thu Apr 25, 2024 6:09 am ]
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CHAIRTHROWER wrote:
Um, is it normal that Metallica's discography list is swamped by innumerable "live" albums, to the point of ridiculousness?...

As far as I know, yes. I'm pretty sure it's cuz they endorsed a bunch of bootlegs around the time 72 seasons came out

Author:  CHAIRTHROWER [ Thu Apr 25, 2024 8:36 am ]
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It's a bit crazy and excessive though, Sloth style...oh and thanks nightbreaker, I wasn't really up to writing anything yesterday but had promised Sirius Datura (cool name!) to take a gander at its latest demo.

Author:  King_of_Arnor [ Thu Apr 25, 2024 10:22 am ]
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aidane154 wrote:
CHAIRTHROWER wrote:
Um, is it normal that Metallica's discography list is swamped by innumerable "live" albums, to the point of ridiculousness?...

As far as I know, yes. I'm pretty sure it's cuz they endorsed a bunch of bootlegs around the time 72 seasons came out

It's been going on much longer than that; since the St Anger era there's been a deluge of these live releases. (The only one of them that's been reviewed is from Shanghai in 2017.)

Author:  aidane154 [ Thu Apr 25, 2024 4:31 pm ]
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CHAIRTHROWER wrote:
As for Youthanasia, I was also taken aback by its recent (s)lacklustre score, but get how it rubs people the wrong way. Personally, it's a cornerstone of my youth due for appraisal soon.

going back to this, super excited for the chair take on youthanasia, enjoyed your recent antioch and gallows whisper reviews

Author:  CHAIRTHROWER [ Thu Apr 25, 2024 6:15 pm ]
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Thanks, they're nothing great, simply written off the cuff. Too bad about Antioch normally they sound much better. Gallows Whisper is very cool and auspicious in an Angel/Acid Blade or The Night Eternal way. I'l do my best to round up Youthanasia soon, as I tend to procrastinate on classics...two of which, alongside Megadeth and Iron Maiden, have wormed their squirrely way into the rotation, as well as a few surprises down the road. Oh, I'm on a big Fallout kick, following the excellent TV series (so good it's been greenlisted for a second season), and just started an updated playthrough of its fourth instalment.

Author:  TheBurningOfSodom [ Fri Apr 26, 2024 8:20 am ]
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CHAIRTHROWER wrote:
Um, is it normal that Metallica's discography list is swamped by innumerable "live" albums, to the point of ridiculousness?...

They're now the band with the most releases on M-A. Take that, Megadeth, I guess?

Author:  VictimOfScience [ Fri Apr 26, 2024 9:43 am ]
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TheBurningOfSodom wrote:
Take that, Megadeth, I guess?

:lol: :lol:

Author:  CHAIRTHROWER [ Fri Apr 26, 2024 12:04 pm ]
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In regards to your humorous Darkness review, I'm still wrapping my head around : ""The will to resist does no longer exist... But those who don't oppose only act amiss!".

Cripes! You don't hear that every day. (Nice wordplay on your behalf as well, felix.)

Author:  lonerider [ Mon Apr 29, 2024 1:55 pm ]
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Lee Harrison wrote:
That why I stopped to read MA archives reviews…

It’s difficult for the folks and have my total respect but knowing how to read or write is not enough to be a reviewer…

Need4power have three reviews (two 0 one 92 for Louder than hell of Manowar)

This is Incantation most influential album

https://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/ ... wer/324766


How a community can tolerate this?

I can’t….

and I'm completely disheartened
I know it's my Achilles heel


Yeah, that Incantation review is a complete joke. As another commentator wrote: does that guy even know what death metal is? This is like reviewing techno "music" and complaining that there are no vocals and no one's playing any actual instruments. I agree that ludicrous takes like this shouldn't make it onto this site.

Author:  CHAIRTHROWER [ Wed May 01, 2024 11:26 am ]
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So...I haven't forgotten about my commitment to Megadeth's Youthanasia, as well as Iron Maiden's Seventh Son; expect those soon! (If not during my Night Demon pilgrimage to Montreal, immediately upon my return.)

Author:  aidane154 [ Wed May 01, 2024 1:19 pm ]
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CHAIRTHROWER wrote:
So...I haven't forgotten about my commitment to Megadeth's Youthanasia, as well as Iron Maiden's Seventh Son; expect those soon! (If not during my Night Demon pilgrimage to Montreal, immediately upon my return.)


yeeessssss I'm considering doing seventh son as well

Author:  VictimOfScience [ Wed May 01, 2024 10:03 pm ]
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CHAIRTHROWER wrote:
In regards to your humorous Darkness review, I'm still wrapping my head around : ""The will to resist does no longer exist... But those who don't oppose only act amiss!".

Cripes! You don't hear that every day. (Nice wordplay on your behalf as well, felix.)


Haha, glad you enjoyed it! I did hear the subtle call by the way, went ahead and gave Tyran a listen. Very good stuff!

Author:  aidane154 [ Fri May 03, 2024 4:36 pm ]
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very much enjoying Twisted Psychology's Dream Theater deep dive, thought the debut one he did was a one-off but it seems he's now working his way through. Can't wait for the metropolis part 2 review in particular

Author:  Lane [ Sat May 04, 2024 1:18 am ]
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Nattskog7's Crawl review is top. The Hellraiser association is into-the-point; this made me miss Entombed's death 'n roll era even more. Cheers.

Author:  FontaL [ Sat May 04, 2024 3:38 pm ]
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That review made me revisit the Twilight of the Gods album. What nostalgic afternoons that album gave me when I started discovering viking metal. Although I predict that a detractor will soon appear to give it less than 60-50%. There's never a shortage of someone who wanna be the centerpiece of the table :lol:

Author:  lonerider [ Mon May 06, 2024 10:08 am ]
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aidane154 wrote:
CHAIRTHROWER wrote:
So...I haven't forgotten about my commitment to Megadeth's Youthanasia, as well as Iron Maiden's Seventh Son; expect those soon! (If not during my Night Demon pilgrimage to Montreal, immediately upon my return.)


yeeessssss I'm considering doing seventh son as well


Looking forward to that.

As for Megadeth's Youthanasia, I have always had a hard time with that one and haven't really warmed up to it to this day. I still consider it the beginning of a long drought for Megadeth and I will probably always despise "À Tout le Monde". Then again, I may be judging it a bit unfairly because a guy I absolutely couldn't stand and otherwise wasn't into metal at all kept raving about Youthanasia and particularly "À Tout le Monde" back in the day. It's funny how such personal impressions tend to linger.

I really like Megadeth's latest album "The Sick, the Dying and the Dead" by the way.

Author:  lonerider [ Mon May 06, 2024 10:16 am ]
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FontaL wrote:
That review made me revisit the Twilight of the Gods album. What nostalgic afternoons that album gave me when I started discovering viking metal. Although I predict that a detractor will soon appear to give it less than 60-50%. There's never a shortage of someone who wanna be the centerpiece of the table :lol:


https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/B ... e_Gods/760

I've read that review as well, it's nicely written. Reminds me I really need to check out Twilight of the Gods. Seems to be perennially overshadowed by Hammerheart, but maybe undeservedly so?

Author:  Twisted_Psychology [ Mon May 06, 2024 5:40 pm ]
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aidane154 wrote:
very much enjoying Twisted Psychology's Dream Theater deep dive, thought the debut one he did was a one-off but it seems he's now working his way through. Can't wait for the metropolis part 2 review in particular


Thank you! I’m marathoning their discography for a Facebook group and it’s been great to have way more stuff to say than I have in a while. I’m gonna see if I can get to Black Clouds & Silver Linings, if only because I already reviewed most of the Mangini-era stuff and still largely stand by my opinions then. Might rewrite my old Systematic Chaos review though, my takes aren’t that different now compared to then but boy howdy was my writing rougher those days.

Author:  nightbreaker33 [ Mon May 06, 2024 6:52 pm ]
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Fellow writer CHAIRTHROWER, the duty is calling for you to write a review on The 2 Freeways albums (whenever and if you can) now that they were surprisingly added recently to Encyclopedia Metallum!! They are very similar to Flight, Lynx, Tanith, Wytch Hazel and Convent Guilt!!

Also shout out to Twisted_Psychology for his ultra positive review on Metropolis II. That album is simply a masterpiece! Dance of Eternity is probably one of my favourite LaBrie Songs along with As I Am, Caught In a Web and Metropolis I. It was a fine read I must say. Although it won't change my opinion that WDADU is the best DT album! (Metropolis Pt.2 has a great plot! It should be made into a film, without a doubt!!).

Author:  VictimOfScience [ Mon May 06, 2024 7:22 pm ]
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nightbreaker33 wrote:
Fellow writer CHAIRTHROWER, the duty is calling for you to write a review on The 2 Freeways albums (whenever and if you can) now that they were surprisingly added recently to Encyclopedia Metallum!!


Oh, wow!!! That's funny, believe it or not, I was going to ask him to do the same exact thing, except when the new Freeways came out, they weren't on the Archives yet so I didn't. You beat me to it, good job! And I'm happy to see that Freeways has been accepted on board.

Author:  Vadara [ Mon May 06, 2024 9:53 pm ]
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You ever listen to an album you want to review, and feel like you can already write a review halfway through it? 'Cause I sure do right now. Some genres I swear are just prone to every minute sounding nigh-identical and it's just your tastes that determine if you think that's good or bad.

Still, I think there's some interesting things to discuss about this album (a blackened symphonic bdm/slam/deathcore album) so I might as well finish the whole thing before reviewing it...

Author:  CHAIRTHROWER [ Tue May 07, 2024 6:33 am ]
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Wow, this exciting Freeways inclusion calls for celebration...especially since I won't be seeing Blind Guardian or Night Demon after all, as Montreal is such a flaming shit hole that Im coming home early...Being separated by your instrument by thousands of miles must never happen. Plus I miss my beautiful hamm...on a positive note, twist hit a home run with True Bearings.

Author:  nightbreaker33 [ Tue May 07, 2024 8:04 am ]
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CHAIRTHROWER wrote:
Wow, this exciting Freeways inclusion calls for celebration...especially since I won't be seeing Blind Guardian or Night Demon after all, as Montreal is such a flaming shit hole that Im coming home early...Being separated by your instrument by thousands of miles must never happen. Plus I miss my beautiful hamm...on a positive note, twist hit a home run with True Bearings.


Oh damn, that sucks. I remember you said that you bought a ticket? I don't remember.

Author:  CHAIRTHROWER [ Tue May 07, 2024 9:03 am ]
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Yeah it does suck and unfortunately, my Mom is very sick, to the point where i feel guilty returning home right away but at the same time, were staying at their friends house and its in the middle of nowhere, as in, it took 3 hours each way to go downtown from here, and while on the ever musty and foul metro i suffered a massive anxiety panic attack due to major homeless drug using era flashbacks where i freaked and begged my folks for an immediate flight home. Also, and this stays between us, im no big fan of Night Demons Outsider which dominates opening act…in other words, id have rather seen them on their Darkness Remains tour - but am looking forward to writing reviews again with Youthanasia rocketing to he podium…Oh, i hope Mom gets better soon!

Author:  colin040 [ Tue May 07, 2024 11:27 am ]
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https://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/ ... rts/324993

Annable's review is just... urgh!

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First of all, John Tardy. When you have a vocalist that is basically yelling the death metal-ish equivalent of "Libalah-Timmy !!" the entire time, it's going to be difficult to award the sort of credibility that this album seems to be demanding from its audience. That vocal style was supposed to be dark and intimidating, but it sounds more like a sulky teenager who recorded angry voice tracks while pouting in the studio. Which, naturally, can be a massive obstacle in seeing this as the terribly serious affair it's implicitly claiming. It's like Schwarzenegger's infamous "Blaaaaurgh !" noise, but pitch/sped up, Tardy likely being a big fan of Commando and Predator. But that's just the voice. Surely the instrumental is on a whole other level.

I'm not sure why a death metal fan would dislike Tardy, but that's just me.
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This is a bit of a poor man's 'Scream Bloody Gore': technically very similar, but with far less genuine atmosphere and purpose

Hardly means anything, but ok.
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But here's the thing: the riffs are between rather vague and generic and express fairly little musically

Just like the review does? :lol:

Author:  aidane154 [ Tue May 07, 2024 12:06 pm ]
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Vadara wrote:
You ever listen to an album you want to review, and feel like you can already write a review halfway through it?


yeah this happened to me with Lich King's Born of the Bomb and Megadeth's System Has Failed, though I had already drafted a review for the Megadeth one a few times, so my thoughts on it were already pretty well-formed.

CHAIRTHROWER wrote:
but am looking forward to writing reviews again with Youthanasia rocketing to he podium…Oh, i hope Mom gets better soon!


Rooting for mama chair! excited for new reviews too!!

colin040 wrote:
https://www.metal-archives.com/reviews/Obituary/Slowly_We_Rot/718/Annable_Courts/324993

Annable's review is just... urgh!


I get major contrarian vibes from Annable. I can kinda understand the idea of this review, but how does World Demise get 10 extra points over the debut? in what world?? He seems to have an issue with the vocals but goes back and forth on what it actually is: is it perfectly ridiculous? or is it emo arnold schwarzenegger? I like annable more than some people but I avoid his classic reviews cuz it always seems like he wants to take them down a peg. Death's Human and Megadeth's RiP are some other examples of his classic-bashing reviews, bringing up imaginary complaints like "blues metal" (whatever that is).

Author:  CHAIRTHROWER [ Tue May 07, 2024 12:44 pm ]
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Thank you for the support! She is doing better thankfully; its not easy to travel at their age and Im glad i at least got to spend a few days with them.

I also realize my fondness for Night Demon more or less twisted me into travelling to a place not at all good for my mind. Thankfully, AmorgusEnjoyers excellent Blind Guardian reviews of late have taught me all theres to know about this greatly seasoned group, and am really enjoying their debut.

Author:  nightbreaker33 [ Tue May 07, 2024 1:02 pm ]
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CHAIRTHROWER wrote:
Yeah it does suck and unfortunately, my Mom is very sick, to the point where i feel guilty returning home right away but at the same time, were staying at their friends house and its in the middle of nowhere, as in, it took 3 hours each way to go downtown from here, and while on the ever musty and foul metro i suffered a massive anxiety panic attack due to major homeless drug using era flashbacks where i freaked and begged my folks for an immediate flight home. Also, and this stays between us, im no big fan of Night Demons Outsider which dominates opening act…in other words, id have rather seen them on their Darkness Remains tour - but am looking forward to writing reviews again with Youthanasia rocketing to he podium…Oh, i hope Mom gets better soon!


I wish for your mother to have a quick recovery and to get well very soon my friend!

Author:  CHAIRTHROWER [ Tue May 07, 2024 2:41 pm ]
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Thank you I let her know fellow metal friends wish her well...I'm also digging Jophelerxs Phantom review, so I'll check it out now.

Author:  Jophelerx [ Tue May 07, 2024 7:01 pm ]
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Thanks Chair! My best wishes to your mother also. Hope she has a speedy recovery!

Author:  DoomMetalAlchemist [ Wed May 08, 2024 7:26 am ]
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aidane154 wrote:
"blues metal" (whatever that is).


Probably not what the reviewer had in mind, but "blues metal" clearly refers to early Sabbath. :lol:

Author:  Sweetie [ Wed May 08, 2024 8:30 am ]
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nightbreaker33 wrote:
Fellow writer CHAIRTHROWER, the duty is calling for you to write a review on The 2 Freeways albums (whenever and if you can) now that they were surprisingly added recently to Encyclopedia Metallum!!


Oh sweet! Guess this means I can share mine of the first album from like... 2020

EDIT: Never mind, I forgot I published that one to Indy Metal Vault, which no longer exists :(

Author:  Twisted_Psychology [ Wed May 08, 2024 10:08 am ]
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DoomMetalAlchemist wrote:
aidane154 wrote:
"blues metal" (whatever that is).


Probably not what the reviewer had in mind, but "blues metal" clearly refers to early Sabbath. :lol:


I’ve always used blues metal as a term for stuff like the first Sabbath, the first two or three Danzig albums, and Goatsnake among others. I even tried referring to my old band as blues metal when I was getting it off the ground, mostly because it was directly inspired by that style. Either way, it just makes referring to Rust In Peace by that term look even more nonsensical.

Also RIP, Indy Metal Vault. I still miss that site.

Author:  CHAIRTHROWER [ Wed May 08, 2024 10:12 am ]
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Awesome! I relistened to True Bearings yesterday, what a gem. Their latest is pretty good too. I'm looking forward to your and Sweetie's takes on them...

Thanks Jophelerx, your amazing guide is to classic USPM what Duncan Hines is to reputable road trip restaurant cataloguing...ahead of winning instant cake mix. Mom's feeling better now!

Also looking forward to that new Youthanasia review, I m just waiting on getting the ole laptop back from my pal upstairs so I can pursue both reviews and Ultimate Guitar, a must for shred Meister aspirants...oh the first thing I did upon waking today was warm up to Tanks super sleazy main riff from Echoes of A Distant Battle. Tank, Night Demon, Steelwing, Ambush and Megadeth are my go to learning bands right now. They rule!

I also found some Haunt and Sumerlands but they're too hard at the moment. The Seventh Seal is something else, yet must learn one day. (Fond emoji here please)

Author:  CHAIRTHROWER [ Wed May 08, 2024 10:44 am ]
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Wow, killer Youthanasia review. Absinthe took the words right out of mouth, down to its justified score. It really is a testament to our youth, and forever cherish the memory of catching them live in Verdun with best bud and big time Mdeth fan Olivier for that tour specifically. A tout le Monde was highly memorable as the Francophone audience nailed the candle lit chorus to a tee.

Author:  OSB2018 [ Wed May 08, 2024 11:10 am ]
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I couldn't agree with more with Absinthe1979's opinion about the remasters. Awesome review of Youthanasia.

Author:  aidane154 [ Wed May 08, 2024 12:24 pm ]
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CHAIRTHROWER wrote:
Wow, killer Youthanasia review. Absinthe took the words right out of mouth

Agreed, ironically i came here to say the same thing but you beat me to it lol

OSB2018 wrote:
I couldn't agree with more with Absinthe1979's opinion about the remasters. Awesome review of Youthanasia.

We enjoyed your Iron Maiden reviews too Osb!! Agreed about the remasters, 2004 versions are all pretty bad, even if Youthanasia is slightly less egregious than the others

Author:  Twisted_Psychology [ Wed May 08, 2024 12:48 pm ]
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Agreed on the Megadeth remasters. Getting into metal during the early aughts was such an odd time due to all the botched remasters being the only versions of those albums most accessible for a teenager. It didn’t bother me much at the time but having since listened to the entire mixes is a real “everything I know is a lie” feeling. On the bright side, listening to the original mixes of Rust In Peace and Cryptic Writings among others really did feel like hearing them for the first time in the best way.

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