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Kjetter
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:06 am 
 

Antioch wrote:
Even if it seems reasonable, it isn't very wise to change those credits based on a conjecture, no matter how informed it is. I think "Everything" would work better here, and would leave no room for doubt. Or am I overthinking this?


We will have to look into this material anyway if we are to validate the claim about the VST plugin being used on material predating its creation, so I am not suggesting accepting the change with no further questions. Open for opposing views, but it just seemed a bit anal to revert a change based on informed guessing on an "open case".

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Antioch
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:52 am 
 

Got it. :) Sounds fair enough.
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EpicDismemberment
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:58 pm 
 

Why was Deathwomb accepted? The tapes are available next week according to the announcement by the member.

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/De ... 3540430238

The announcement by the member
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =3&theater
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MutantClannfear
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 5:57 pm 
 

MutantClannfear wrote:
Vorak: https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Vorak/12313

Listed as "industrial black metal"... Metal elements are present but overall it's more like a big avant-garde/neoclassical/noise rock mess.

You can find both albums here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ELgjG323f8
And here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87Mifbry6-0

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 3:44 am 
 

yes, bump.

aloof wrote:
why is this band on the archives? just 2 metal songs on a 5-track EP is not a "predominantly metal" release, is it?

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Fr ... 3540426657
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:28 am 
 

EpicDismemberment wrote:
Why was Deathwomb accepted? The tapes are available next week according to the announcement by the member.

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/De ... 3540430238

The announcement by the member
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =3&theater

Deleted again, since there seems to be no sign that the tape is out yet.

aloof wrote:
why is this band on the archives? just 2 metal songs on a 5-track EP is not a "predominantly metal" release, is it?

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Fr ... 3540426657

if you put it like that, yeah, that's a tad thin, but it's not always about numbers alone and in Zodijackyl's words from the moderator notes: "The intro and outro aren't metal, and track 4 is a ballad, but this does seem to be predominantly metal." Besides, not having listened to it, I don't want to overrule him on this without letting him comment first. EDIT: Also https://www.metal-archives.com/report/view/id/602045

MutantClannfear wrote:
Vorak: https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Vorak/12313

Listed as "industrial black metal"... Metal elements are present but overall it's more like a big avant-garde/neoclassical/noise rock mess.

You can find both albums here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ELgjG323f8
And here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87Mifbry6-0

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0th
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 3:20 am 
 

Two same bands:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ce ... 3540286384
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ce ... 3540425923
Source: https://www.metal-archives.com/report/v ... 0/show/all

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Antioch
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 4:15 am 
 

^ The line-up needs to be moved, Zeroth. Can mods merge bands? Or should that be done manually?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 12:24 pm 
 

Azmodes wrote:
if you put it like that, yeah, that's a tad thin, but it's not always about numbers alone and in Zodijackyl's words from the moderator notes: "The intro and outro aren't metal, and track 4 is a ballad, but this does seem to be predominantly metal." Besides, not having listened to it, I don't want to overrule him on this without letting him comment first. EDIT: Also https://www.metal-archives.com/report/view/id/602045


"I'm sorry", but I don't see how a 5-track EP, with an intro that has no guitars whatsoever, a Disney song and a ballad can be a "predominantly metal" release. it sounds like a bad joke. at best.

either one care to enlighten me?
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Zodijackyl
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 12:58 pm 
 

0th wrote:


Fixed.

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I Am the Law
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 7:45 pm 
 

HateDotCom probably deserves a review. At least the genre should be changed because this is not death/thrash or even close to it.

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/HateDotCom/119465

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDfMKY1m-1w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ut38zjr7aA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ib5Q_LGtF5E

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TheGrimWombat
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 9:40 pm 
 

TheGrimWombat wrote:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Technocracy/7985

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_5BY6WmgPs

I wouldn't really call this acceptable. Sound like nu-metal with a groove metal every very sparse while and solos.


Bump.

tomcat_ha wrote:
https://ripperdeathdealer.bandcamp.com
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/De ... 3540350471

should be deleted isnt metal instead it just got a whole load of chugging hardcore riffs that superficially sound like metal.


I agree with this. I wouldn't even say this sounds superficially metal.
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Midnight Rider
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 12:10 am 
 

TheGrimWombat wrote:
tomcat_ha wrote:
https://ripperdeathdealer.bandcamp.com
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/De ... 3540350471

should be deleted isnt metal instead it just got a whole load of chugging hardcore riffs that superficially sound like metal.


I agree with this. I wouldn't even say this sounds superficially metal.

Deathdealer: https://ripperdeathdealer.bandcamp.com

Hellhammer/Discharge influenced. Borderline metal-punk but still acceptable imho.

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TheGrimWombat
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 12:49 am 
 

Midnight Rider wrote:
Deathdealer: https://ripperdeathdealer.bandcamp.com

Hellhammer/Discharge influenced. Borderline metal-punk but still acceptable imho.


This is WAY more on the Discharge side (not their metallic output, either) than Hellhammer.
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StarshipTrooper
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 8:58 pm 
 

Hello from the gutter!
I'm going to copy & paste my report, since Diamhea sent me here. It's about the chilean band Kingdom of Hate, which I think does not belong here for a 'without-own-material' issue.

StarshipTrooper wrote:
After reading the rules again, I think this band should be removed. Why?

Kingdom of Hate was a band formed by some former Necrosis members, long after leaving the band due to internal issues. In fact, the band is named after a classic song of Necrosis. Although they pretended to be a genuine band with own material, their first and only release consisted in the re-recording of the entire Necrosis's 'The Search' (1988), plus ONE, yes, just one original tune (T-34); basically an album of covers plus one own track.

After that, they wrote a couple of songs and played them live (I remember hearing 'Chemtrails' in 2011), and had plans for a new album, but for some reason all went downhill and Kingdom of Hate finally split-up without any other release.

Therefore, they never released any original material except for one song out of eight in an (practically) cover album, and acording to the rules, cover bands are not allowed in the site.

That's my vision according with my comprehension of the site's rules. Maybe I'm missing something, but I hope you, at least, consider this as an honest comment and not an 'edgy no-sense' like a lot of reports in this category.

Also, I'm sorry if my english is a bit erratic. It's not my first language, but I'm doing my best!

Source/Evidence:
Well... just see https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/K ... rch/261456 (read the additional notes) and https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/N ... arch/16176

Some extra support.
http://www.australisrecords.com/store/o ... gory_id=19
https://store.cdbaby.com/cd/kingdomofhate

The original Necrosis's album: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsyoDt8EruE

(Most of) the Kingdom of Hate's covers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBbaZ-cH9so
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYDAmQgbwgs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zptn5ha-EdU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eOdHbApr0I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgGeFtc7OYo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnRY5oq0oAw

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TheGrimWombat
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:47 pm 
 

I think a few things are important that would probably warrant the inclusion of Kingdom of Hate: The one new song, making it a different release, the fact that they re-recorded it, and wasn't Nata the guy who helped compose most of "The Search"?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 2:36 pm 
 

Zodijackyl wrote:
Deleted Forgotten Land. Ambient synth stuff like Uruk-Hai.


So you're the one.

Forgotten Land does have plenty of black metal tracks.

One for example; https://forgottenland.bandcamp.com/trac ... -of-a-gale

I know it was deleted a while ago, but can it be restored? I am finishing up an album currently that has quite a bit of black metal on it.

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OpsiusCato
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 5:29 pm 
 

Having a bunch of Black Metal tracks scattered through a predominantly ambient discography is not enough to be added. When/if Forgotten Land releases a decidedly, unambiguously Metal album, it will/could be acceptable.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 11:45 am 
 

OpsiusCato wrote:
Having a bunch of Black Metal tracks scattered through a predominantly ambient discography is not enough to be added. When/if Forgotten Land releases a decidedly, unambiguously Metal album, it will/could be acceptable.


So what is the argument on the majority of all LLN releases?

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 3:04 pm 
 

avisioncame wrote:
OpsiusCato wrote:
Having a bunch of Black Metal tracks scattered through a predominantly ambient discography is not enough to be added. When/if Forgotten Land releases a decidedly, unambiguously Metal album, it will/could be acceptable.


So what is the argument on the majority of all LLN releases?

Some LLN projects are metal on their own terms, others are selected exceptions on the basis that the LLN bands as a whole formed a very integral part of the metal scene and it would be seen as glaringly lacking to exclude Aäkon Këëtrëh and Moëvöt but include Belkètre. Their situation is very exceptional and they shouldn't be used as an example to justify the addition of average everyday bands.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 3:40 pm 
 

The LLN as a whole is considered a selected exception because of its scene affiliation, listenership and member connections. And for that reason, we have listed all of its various projects, regardless if Metal or not.
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0th
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 6:08 am 
 

Two same bands:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/In ... 3540397711
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/In ... 3540430734

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Erosion of Humanity
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 6:18 am 
 

Deleted the most recent, and less complete, entry.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 6:37 am 
 

0th wrote:


Hi,
it's true i make the search with the name they put on bandcamp "Indignty" and it's one letter different of the real name "Indignity" so the search give no results.

Sorry.
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No worries dude. Mistakes happen.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 3:18 pm 
 

MutantClannfear wrote:
Some LLN projects are metal on their own terms, others are selected exceptions on the basis that the LLN bands as a whole formed a very integral part of the metal scene and it would be seen as glaringly lacking to exclude Aäkon Këëtrëh and Moëvöt but include Belkètre. Their situation is very exceptional and they shouldn't be used as an example to justify the addition of average everyday bands.


Understandable, but at the same time you are deeming bands acceptable by simply being affiliated with the genre. Forgotten Land on the other hand actually has multiple black metal tracks - As well as being on a label with various other full time black metal bands, using black metal imagery and themes throughout their music and artwork...

Sure, it isn't the Black Metal of days past - but it is black metal. When Varg and others began putting out exclusively ambient works it changed the landscape of BM forever, and frankly I think Black Ambient (not Dark Ambient - because I think we can all see the distinction) is in it's own right a staple of the genre.

I would say if anything Forgotten Land is as black metal as say, Vinterriket, just not as prolific.


Can we just accept that there is a form of Ambient music that files under Metal, apart from Dark Ambient and be done with it?

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OpsiusCato
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 6:49 pm 
 

avisioncame wrote:
Understandable, but at the same time you are deeming bands acceptable by simply being affiliated with the genre.
MutantClannfear is not a moderator. His answer, while helpful and correct, should not be considered an official response from the staff. However, he really nailed it with this:
MutantClannfear wrote:
Some LLN projects are metal on their own terms, others are selected exceptions on the basis that the LLN bands as a whole formed a very integral part of the metal scene (...) Their situation is very exceptional and they shouldn't be used as an example to justify the addition of average everyday bands.

Adding to that, here's my answer which you seemed to ignore:
OpsiusCato wrote:
The LLN as a whole is considered a selected exception because of its scene affiliation, listenership and member connections. And for that reason, we have listed all of its various projects, regardless if Metal or not.

So, yes, the non-Metal part of the LLN is a selected exception we keep both for its deep scene affiliation and for the sake of completeness. To further explain, here's this:
Da Rules wrote:
We accept the following non-metal bands in certain cases (these exceptions can be ambiguous and debatable - scroll down for details):
Side-projects of notable metal band members (ex. Pain, Wongraven, Die Verbannten Kinder Evas). We prefer side-projects to be on a label with worldwide distribution and have a full-length release, but do not require it (this is to avoid a flood of bedroom/MySpace bands).
Non-metal projects included arbitrarily as they are seen by the staff to belong as a part of the metal scene. Their inclusion is rare, exceptional, and discretionary of the staff.
Bands that are no longer metal, but are/were still generally recognized as metal bands at some point (ex: Ulver, Katatonia, Def Leppard)

avisioncame wrote:
Forgotten Land on the other hand actually has multiple black metal tracks

As I had already told you:
OpsiusCato wrote:
Having a bunch of Black Metal tracks scattered through a predominantly ambient discography is not enough to be added. When/if Forgotten Land releases a decidedly, unambiguously Metal album, it will/could be acceptable.

avisioncame wrote:
As well as being on a label with various other full time black metal bands

We do not judge bands based on which labels they are signed to, nor who are their labelmates and what those labelmates play.
avisioncame wrote:
using black metal imagery and themes throughout their music and artwork...

We do not judge bands based on imagery, themes, artwork, lyrics, inverted crosses, sixsixsixes, or any kind of aesthetic factor.
avisioncame wrote:
Sure, it isn't the Black Metal of days past - but it is black metal. When Varg and others began putting out exclusively ambient works it changed the landscape of BM forever

You're forgetting they had already released unambiguously Metal albums by the time they went ambient. Those unambiguously Metal albums are they reason they are listed here.
avisioncame wrote:
and frankly I think Black Ambient (not Dark Ambient - because I think we can all see the distinction) is in it's own right a staple of the genre.

Black Ambient? Seriosuly? This is the first time I ever even see that term used. Dark Ambient is Dark Ambient. That's it's name. There's no distinction. Hell, not even Basarabian Hills tried to use that "Black Ambient" card with us.
And "a staple of the genre"? Of what genre? Metal? No! The fact that Dark Ambient is used on a semi-regular basis as a resource in Black Metal doesn't automatically make it a "staple of the genre". That's like saying that Jesus Christ is a "staple of the religion" when talking about Islam just because they do consider him a prophet in their canon.
avisioncame wrote:
I would say if anything Forgotten Land is as black metal as say, Vinterriket, just not as prolific.

I'm pretty sure Vinterriket has at least one predominantly Metal album, which warrants their inclusion.
avisioncame wrote:
Can we just accept that there is a form of Ambient music that files under Metal, apart from Dark Ambient and be done with it?

No, not really. Ambient music files under Ambient music. Metal files under Metal. That arguement is like saying that there are certain kind of birds that file under fish just because they swim.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 24, 2017 7:02 pm 
 

Not even close to Heavy Metal: Arsenal (#116783)
(check out: http://www96.zippyshare.com/v/fU0c8n9e/file.html)

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 8:20 am 
 

aloof wrote:
Azmodes wrote:
if you put it like that, yeah, that's a tad thin, but it's not always about numbers alone and in Zodijackyl's words from the moderator notes: "The intro and outro aren't metal, and track 4 is a ballad, but this does seem to be predominantly metal." Besides, not having listened to it, I don't want to overrule him on this without letting him comment first. EDIT: Also https://www.metal-archives.com/report/view/id/602045


"I'm sorry", but I don't see how a 5-track EP, with an intro that has no guitars whatsoever, a Disney song and a ballad can be a "predominantly metal" release. it sounds like a bad joke. at best.

either one care to enlighten me?

Having listened to it now, I'm going to have to agree with Zodi on this. I was honestly expecting it to be more borderline, but it sounds like symphonic metal if you don't count the intro and outro. Not a paragon of an acceptable release, but I'm fine with it. And at least there's a CD as well.

RunningWild_AT wrote:
Not even close to Heavy Metal: Arsenal (#116783)
(check out: http://www96.zippyshare.com/v/fU0c8n9e/file.html)

lunaboy sub, figures. His additions really need to be audited. Deleted.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 26, 2017 4:33 pm 
 

TheGrimWombat wrote:
TheGrimWombat wrote:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Technocracy/7985

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_5BY6WmgPs

I wouldn't really call this acceptable. Sound like nu-metal with a groove metal every very sparse while and solos.


Bump.

tomcat_ha wrote:
https://ripperdeathdealer.bandcamp.com
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/De ... 3540350471

should be deleted isnt metal instead it just got a whole load of chugging hardcore riffs that superficially sound like metal.


I agree with this. I wouldn't even say this sounds superficially metal.

First one deleted. I'm inclined to agree on the second one, but want another opinion.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 9:16 am 
 

Deleted Auxxxxxcult and Ebola Zaire. Insufficient samples to determine whether there is a metal release.

EDIT: EZ has been restored after some additional evidence.
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Cudnoredje
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 27, 2017 9:59 pm 
 

Psychofagist is accepted, why?
Just because they made few brutal death metal songs (demo) before switching to mathcore?
(Not to be misunderstood, I like mathcore.)

This example leads us to some general questions:
What if i made 3 metal songs demo (longer than 20min) and 8 other pop albums after that?
Will they be listed in archives just because of these 3 metal songs?

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Erosion of Humanity
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 3:45 am 
 

One acceptable metal release is all the we require. We're not going to delete a band because they change.
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2017 7:02 am 
 

While Erosion is generally correct, an extreme example such as yours, Curdnoredje, would warrant reexamination of the band. You touch upon a recurrent and valid issue with your post, please see this for a more in-depth explanation. An addendum to that old post is that I have noticed that we have become somewhat more cautious with short/dodgy releases of borderline genres and often reject something, telling people to wait for a more consistent discography. But of course that doesn't mean that we reject a perfectly metal demo just because there's a possibility of the band switching to punk rock later.

If Psychofagist only have a short metal demo (the format of which isn't even known?) and then completely changed to non-metal, that would also be grounds for looking into.
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Antioch
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 6:51 pm 
 

Just updated this band's page:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Krull/3540428616

But it seems that there's no valid release. The EP that's listed was released under their previous name:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Et ... 3540385451
There's a bonus track. Less than a minute long, though.

Bio: https://www.facebook.com/pg/krullheavym ... e_internal
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:56 am 
 

Deleted:

Deathdealer
Psychofagist
Krull
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0th
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:00 am 
 

Oops: https://www.metal-archives.com/report/view/id/612383

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Azmodes
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Deleted.
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BlackMetalGirl
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2017 3:54 am 
 

Hi guys, sometimes I come back from the dead eheheh :). While I often agree with your decisions, this time I think you did a mistake, Azmodes. In the urge to purge the non metalness from the archive, it happens that some valid bands are caught in the mechanism like in this case: that is Psychofagist. While undoubtely they started to play a kind of mathcore/jazzcore, that process was not sudden, but it was a slow evolution throughout their discography. Their first demo is not their only valid release, but also the split with Hybrid Viscery contains valid Death/Grind songs, and even their first full-length has clearly metal influences. After that their evolution was complete, and the next releases are definitively mathcore/jazzcore. But 2 releases are enough to be listed here I think.

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2017 4:15 am 
 

Well, I listened to almost everything from their discography (including the first full-length) and apart from the one song from their demo that I found (I still haven't found any information about how it was released, by the way) it was all mathcore. I doubt a borderline split I overlooked will make a difference.
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