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Klaagzang
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 8:37 pm 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=18514
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=24194

Both bands have never released any physical albums, I doubt if both bands ever existed.
The picture uploaded for "Trolldom" is an old promotional photo of Leviathan's only member; Wrest.

I've looked all over for more information about both bands, the only thing I found out from close contacts are that both "bands" never released any physical albums and were probably by the same guy that added a lot of other fake bands to M-A back in '04/'05 (Humatus, Gnoomtoren, Kieloth etc.) by now all of these bands have been deleted from M-A

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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 2:48 am 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540316740
release was deleted. Will be released later in a split album ...
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Drowned
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 8:16 pm 
 

I've removed Applaud the Impaler - EP release date is November 23, 2010.

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Phuling
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:51 am 
 

Drowned wrote:
I've removed Applaud the Impaler - EP release date is November 23, 2010.


I was wondering why they disappeared. The reason why I added the band was that copies of the EP are already for sale in distros, or at least Comatose Music (www.comatosemusic.com) already sell it. Actually thought that was reason for admission

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PiotrB
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 3:56 am 
 

I've removed Stricken by Fate from Texas, USA.
Progressive Rock.

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todesengel_hell
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:09 pm 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=4903

"The band was writing their first demo 'Unnatural Disaster' when split up. There exists an unreleased live cassette and a vhs called 'Live and Dead'"

So the demo was never completed and the tape/vhs was unreleased? What valid release do they have?

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Drowned
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:21 pm 
 

It sounds to me like the VHS was released but the live cassette was not.

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Void_Eater
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:37 am 
 

Are dark ambient bands supposed to be allowed on here? Not a bad style of music, but not metal. Dark Ages is one such band.
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PiotrB
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 4:50 am 
 

Void_Eater wrote:
Are dark ambient bands supposed to be allowed on here? Not a bad style of music, but not metal. Dark Ages is one such band.

:brick:


1. Read rules.
2. There is 8 bands with that name... I don't want to check all of them because I'm sure that it's a side project...

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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:38 am 
 

Void_Eater wrote:
Are dark ambient bands supposed to be allowed on here? Not a bad style of music, but not metal. Dark Ages is one such band.


95% of the time, no. The only Dark Ambient bands allowed on here are:
  • Ones who've had a predominantly metal period in their discography before being growing more ambient than metal (e.g., the Axis of Perdition)
  • Les Légions Noires - Selected exceptions by the moderators - most likely due to the bands' notorious obscurity, and because many of the LLN bands were side-projects of more metallic LNN bands.
  • Bands who incorporate enough distinct metallic elements in their music for a dark ambient band to be considered "metal enough" (again, this is up to the moderators: If you're unsure whether a Dark Ambient band should be submitted, it's best not to bother.)
  • Side projects of members from metal bands. Again, this is entirely up to the moderators, and users should refrain from adding side projects themselves.

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:54 am 
 

There is no category of dark ambient bands that are metal enough. Either a band is ambient or black metal with some ambient elements. Black metal bands with ambient elements are usually acceptable.

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Drowned
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 1:38 am 
 

I've removed Deathening - CD release date December 1, 2010.

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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 3:56 am 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540311560
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The demo was really just done to have some songs on myspace and was rerecorded for an album called Maximum Rock which will be released sometime next spring on At War with False Noise. An indie label from Scottland.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 21, 2010 11:50 pm 
 

Why is Hellyeah on MA? What exactly makes them 'metal'?

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:26 am 
 

AngelWitch666 wrote:
Why is Hellyeah on MA? What exactly makes them 'metal'?


Use the search function. They are considered to be some kind of groove/southern metal. This is a decision of the staff and will not change.

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~Guest 224386
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2010 5:20 pm 
 

Witcher wrote:
AngelWitch666 wrote:
Why is Hellyeah on MA? What exactly makes them 'metal'?


Use the search function. They are considered to be some kind of groove/southern metal. This is a decision of the staff and will not change.

Just because it's their decision doesn't change the fact that they aren't metal. Considering them to be groove/southern metal is like saying Slipknot's debut is groove metal with some speed in the style (very similar to Pantera's 6th studio album).

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Hellrisen
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 3:29 am 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=96910

No info on the band whatsoever.
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Helvede
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 6:16 am 
 

Hellrisen wrote:


Is this review good enough for you? Took me 30 seconds to find.

http://www.musicextreme.com/cd0402b.htm

When that's said, it doesn't sound very metal based on this review.

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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:10 am 
 

helvede wrote:
Hellrisen wrote:


Is this review good enough for you? Took me 30 seconds to find.

http://www.musicextreme.com/cd0402b.htm

When that's said, it doesn't sound very metal based on this review.

http://web.archive.org/web/200407091424 ... m/DMF.html

http://www.metalcorefanzine.com/reviews12.html

could be a borderline release.
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Witcher
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 7:47 am 
 

Deleted Storm (Swe) - rac.

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pluto
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Location: United Kingdom
PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2010 9:43 pm 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540287112

Seems to be no evidence of any releases apart from the mention of them.

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slayerbbk
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:41 am 
 

GVOLTT wrote:
slayerbbk wrote:
slayerbbk wrote:
Hi.

I followed the rules and everything but my band has been rejected because there isn't a physical release of any of the demos.

Ok.

However I discovered that this band Csorna (http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540275617) DOES NOT have any physical releases. Both of the demos are only available via download, the same for my band Conrad.

I think its simply unfair for this to happen. Why was Csorna accepted and not Conrad?


Sweet. I just LOVE how you guys simply remove Csorna and still don't give me an explanation as to why they were Accepted in the first place.

It was an accident if the releases turned out to be download-only yet the band was accepted. Mods make mistakes sometimes too (even me); you can't expect them to be perfect.

Basically, your band Conrad will not be accepted unless you have a physical release available to the public, and proof can be provided. The same goes for Csorna as well.



Ok so Conrad was rejected because there were no physical releases. Then after pointing out that there were some released to friends only it still didn't count under MA's standards.

Now the Oseaan Kroniek demo has be released again but this time to the public and can be ordered via Carib Metal Horde Merch Store.

Links to contact Carib Metal Horde Merch Store:

1) http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=gro ... 8052418926

2) http://conradbb.blogspot.com/2010/11/20 ... o-are.html

Picture of the release: http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/6221/dsc00485c.jpg
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Mieresch
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:08 am 
 

To quote Nightgaunt from that locked Powerglove thread:

Nightgaunt wrote:
You haven't brought any new argument to the table since the last time you demanded this group be added some years ago (which, incidentally, seems to be the only reason your account exists); you have simply expressed the same ideas in different words. The group remains a cover band--albeit a professional, dedicated one--for all practical intents and purposes; trying to argue that a group is writing "original material" because they adapt the base song to another style or genre is little more than an attempt to confuse the issue by rephrasing the definition of the term; these activities are simply par for the course in doing a cross-genre "cover" of a song. Appealing to their touring career is equally irrelevant. In the wide world of music, it is very far from unheard of for straightforward cover bands to be popular and respected enough to fill a regular spot in a touring stable with big-name bands; this in no way alters the fact that they are cover bands. Your best angle (and the only new one) is the thing about the "completely original" Duck Hunt song, but unless the group has many more completely original songs just like it--that is, a whole proper album of them actually arranged as such--it is nearly as irrelevant as the two points above. Regardless of the issue of whether or not Powerglove is a cover band, no band on the Archive is admitted on the basis of a single song, but rather on the basis of at least one major qualifying release. So, just as a group whose career output consists of dozens of jazz songs and one metal song will (for obvious reasons) not be added on the basis of that one song (even if it is 100% metal), a group whose career consists of one completely original tune amidst countless covers will not be added on the basis of that single original song. It is possible that the day may come when Powerglove might qualify, but that day has plainly not yet come


If no cover band is allowed with one original song, then why is Tankwart here?
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=5109

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:13 am 
 

dust666 wrote:
To quote Nightgaunt from that locked Powerglove thread:

Nightgaunt wrote:
You haven't brought any new argument to the table since the last time you demanded this group be added some years ago (which, incidentally, seems to be the only reason your account exists); you have simply expressed the same ideas in different words. The group remains a cover band--albeit a professional, dedicated one--for all practical intents and purposes; trying to argue that a group is writing "original material" because they adapt the base song to another style or genre is little more than an attempt to confuse the issue by rephrasing the definition of the term; these activities are simply par for the course in doing a cross-genre "cover" of a song. Appealing to their touring career is equally irrelevant. In the wide world of music, it is very far from unheard of for straightforward cover bands to be popular and respected enough to fill a regular spot in a touring stable with big-name bands; this in no way alters the fact that they are cover bands. Your best angle (and the only new one) is the thing about the "completely original" Duck Hunt song, but unless the group has many more completely original songs just like it--that is, a whole proper album of them actually arranged as such--it is nearly as irrelevant as the two points above. Regardless of the issue of whether or not Powerglove is a cover band, no band on the Archive is admitted on the basis of a single song, but rather on the basis of at least one major qualifying release. So, just as a group whose career output consists of dozens of jazz songs and one metal song will (for obvious reasons) not be added on the basis of that one song (even if it is 100% metal), a group whose career consists of one completely original tune amidst countless covers will not be added on the basis of that single original song. It is possible that the day may come when Powerglove might qualify, but that day has plainly not yet come


If no cover band is allowed with one original song, then why is Tankwart here?
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=5109

They have one own song on an album and since the written rules say nothing about the number of written songs.

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droneriot
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 8:22 am 
 

I brought them up before because it's not even a metal song, so they're here with one original song and the side-project rule.
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W1kt00r
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 2:58 pm 
 

OK, I'm not a fan of cleansing the MA, because I think that it is a truthful page and each band is well described there. IIn my opinion there should be Soulfly, Led Zeppelin, Solarized, Hermano and SOAD but I know that these bands have been told there a lot of times before and it won't change until... hm.

But what I'd like to change there? If these five bands mustn't exist in MA, I think that we must delete Underoath from this page!!! Why I think about Underoath in this way? You say that they have their first album more metal than core and Underoath exists on MA only because of that. But... they recorded nesxt 6 full-lrngth albums which do NOT have anything common with metal. If you think that Underoath having 1/7 metal albums, there should be Soulfly in MA having thrash CD "Dark Ages"...

To sum up: I wanna delete Underoath from MA, what do you think about that?

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HOT_DOG_DAY_89
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 3:21 pm 
 

We should also delete Metallica then because the released some shitty rock albums in the 90s.

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W1kt00r
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 3:36 pm 
 

HOT_DOG_DAY_89 wrote:
We should also delete Metallica then because the released some shitty rock albums in the 90s.

Metallica also recorded hm... 6 very very good albums, which are one of the most important in the metal history. So: what did Underoath do for the metal development?! One half-metal album and 6 screamo-shit CDs which makes their listeners paranoic?!

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MutantClannfear
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 12:54 am 
 

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droneriot
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 6:16 pm 
 

Witcher wrote:
dust666 wrote:
If no cover band is allowed with one original song, then why is Tankwart here?
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=5109

They have one own song on an album and since the written rules say nothing about the number of written songs.

If a band has to have at least one predominantly metal release, it seems only fair to reason that the rule of predominance also be applied to original material.
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oneyoudontknow
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 4:12 pm 
 

this band is a bit confusing:
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540318444
because it is listed here as being from the UK:
http://www.spirit-of-metal.com/groupe-g ... -l-en.html
Can someone clear matters up?
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PiotrB
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 4:19 pm 
 

http://blackmetalownsyou.blogspot.com/2 ... -tape.html

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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 9:38 pm 
 

Looks like we've got more than one Black Metal band named Disguster, then.

[Edit: My bad, I noticed the SoM page listed "Nicholas Holtz" as the sole line-up of the group. "Nicholas Holtz" was also tagged in the Composer fields of the split tape's mp3s... so I think somebody must've added it in there accidentally.

I've removed the line-up info from the US Disguster page. Somebody should look into that English one, though]

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~Guest 152635
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 12:32 am 
 

It is the same band. The same blog has information on all of those releases. On the first post about it, it says it is a "new New England" band, so that may be the source of the confusion.

More information here: http://blackmetalownsyou.blogspot.com/s ... =disguster

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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 05, 2010 1:20 am 
 

There's a "New England"...? Good grief. x_x

*readds info and adds split details*

Eh, part of me WAS finding it rather coincidental that there were two obscure one-man black metal projects called "Disguster" out there...

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MutantClannfear
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 8:08 pm 
 

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Goatfangs
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:36 pm 
 

Sounds like blackened grind to me...
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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2010 8:20 am 
 

Goatfangs wrote:
Sounds like blackened grind to me...


Seconded. They sure ain't Nathrakh, but you can't judge a band's style by their playing skill alone.

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~Guest 152635
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 11:00 am 
 

This band is not black metal (Satanhartalt): http://metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540318824

Starting at 5:08 on this is a sample of the band: http://www.mutant-ape.co.uk/mp3/legionb ... amples.mp3

The sample came from this thread: http://metal-archives.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=68804

I knew someone would eventually submit this without proper research. Is there any way to get bands blacklisted before they are submitted?


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Fulgurius
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:10 am 
 

I've deleted Mother of Worms - the album is not out yet.

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