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GuardAwakening
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Joined: Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:35 pm
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:02 am 
 

I logged in today to find not one, but two messages from BastardHead and Diamhea

BastardHead's message said :"Yo, why did you change Winds of Plague's debut to a demo? Don't go lonewolfing major shit like that without a source."

Well considering that Metal Archives doesnt really have a way to make "a source", i don't see how I'm able to do such a thing by his request. Furthermore, A Cold Day in Hell has ALWAYS been credited as a demo. used to be a huge fan of WoP and i've seen it considered as such several times. There's also other websites such as

1) https://metal.aminoapps.com/page/item/w ... LVZx2NZoPW
2) and also on discogs https://www.discogs.com/Winds-Of-Plague ... se/4719610
that list it as a demo.

It is however, sometimes, listed as a debut full album, so as I said. I don't feel how I'm in the wrong here, as the release has been called both (a album and a demo).

And in response to Diamhea's message "Yeah, some users are complaining about the edits your are making, like deleting/moving tracks for no valid reason.", I'd like to ask where these complaints are coming from... I dont "delete or move tracks for no valid reason", I dont even recall ever doing anything of that sort.

I only make changes on the site for the better of the entries for the bands on here, if somebody can point my in a correct direction of where I can address this accordingly, I'd like to because I really feel like I'm being wrongly accused of my actions. All I ever do is just make repairs which I never feel are an issue.

i just feel like these accusations are unfair on my part, it always seems like if you dont get why im doing something, i feel like i have a finger being pointed at me that im some disruptive fuckhead ONLY because you dont understand why i did it.

Metal Archives doesnt have stuff like a edit summary (such as Wikipedia) where you can explain your edits. if it had one, i'd use it, but it doesn't so the hostility i get for this sort of stuff is kind of overboard. I have no problem if you want to consider the release a full length, but just be aware that I have seen it called BOTH a demo AND a full length, and i've always felt like it's more of a demo, and thats the only reason why i changed it.

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MutantClannfear
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Joined: Thu May 27, 2010 12:12 am
Posts: 2987
Location: United States
PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:46 pm 
 

GuardAwakening wrote:
Well considering that Metal Archives doesnt really have a way to make "a source", i don't see how I'm able to do such a thing by his request. Furthermore, A Cold Day in Hell has ALWAYS been credited as a demo. used to be a huge fan of WoP and i've seen it considered as such several times. There's also other websites such as

1) https://metal.aminoapps.com/page/item/w ... LVZx2NZoPW
2) and also on discogs https://www.discogs.com/Winds-Of-Plague ... se/4719610
that list it as a demo.

This official biography from the band's label Century Media refers to A Cold Day in Hell as a "first offering" and Decimate the Weak as a "next album" and "sophomore release": https://web.archive.org/web/20071213234 ... .php?ID=82

And in this 2008 interview the interviewer refers to A Cold Day in Hell as a "first album" and Decimate the Weak as a "new album": https://www.boardmag.com/mag/mehr/and-m ... -interview

And this promo blurb from Blabbermouth calls Decimate the Weak the "second full-length album" before it was ever released: http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/winds- ... a-records/

I did find a couple interviewers who refer to it as an independent "demo", so there is some inconsistency there, but based on what was said at the time by the labels/sent out by the labels to the press, I think there's enough evidence to say that it was considered a full-length album at the time of release, similar to Mate. Feed. Kill. Repeat. by Slipknot. Also, the Discogs link you posted doesn't say anything about it not being an album. I agree with you that this is why we need a "source" field, though, to eliminate confusion in matters like this.
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Diamhea
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Joined: Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:46 pm
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Location: At the Heat of Winter
PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:18 pm 
 

I don't think this is really a big deal at all. Maybe add a note to that album addressing the confusion. We'll all live.
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