Hello world, I submitted a Dark Ambient project yesterday. It belongs to Munruthel, the well-known drummer from Nokturnal Mortum. It is, in fact, his first work in the genre, and given every other one is there on the MA (as Munruthel and with other names), i don't see why this one should have been rejected. I was said this was not metal, which I kind of disagree, given this genre has always been linked to Black Metal artists (only they play it), and has a lot of both conceptual and musical connections with the genre. It doesn't have drums or distortion, but it still captures the spirit. Anyways, I do not think i need to explain this for there are hundreds of Dark Ambient projects listed on the MA, some of them very similar to Silentium. I wish you reconsider your decision, i feel this should be listed as it is his first work and it is consider as one of the first Dark Ambient influences, it's kind of a big deal for us who enjoy this kind of music.

Well, despite being sort of related to metal, dark ambient isn't metal. Because of that, dark ambient bands aren't automatically accepted. Bands which have released metal works too can be found from the site, but the others are selected only if they're considered notable enough.

Except the band is already on the Archives. http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Munruthel/10075 I never heard the music but it appears that his later stuff is metal.

That is Munruthel, not Silentium, just as Vond is not Mortiis. Silentium is the name of the project, the album is "The ancients' wisdom"

Psyclon Nine: I know that they play Aggrotech, but ever since 'Crwn Thy Frnicatr' they have included black metal influences into their music (wikipedia actually categorises the band under black metal).

We already have electronic black metal bands such as Technophobia and Ensoph included on M.A, why not Psyclon Nine?

why are Cicutoxin blacklisted? http://cicutoxin.bandcamp.com/

For being hardcore-based sludge.

ah, ok. thanks

Why Zirt is blacklisted? http://zirt.bandcamp.com/

It's ambient.

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Really. Psyclon Nine...? Dude, they're as "black metal" as Hocico. And there's no gentle way to put this... Wikipedia is full of shit when it comes to genre classifications. As long as a "reliable third-party source" describes a band's music as a certain genre, the genre can technically be added. And to Wikipedia, "reliable third-party sources" can include that babbling reviewer that has no clue what he's talking about. For instance, friggin' Brain Drill were listed as "/grindcore" simply based on this.

The only BM influences you'll hear in Psyclon Nine's music are the raspy vocal styles and *some* guitars. The bulk of their discography is entirely industrial, and even if they released one fully black metal release, that wouldn't be enough to get them on the site.

This band Blacklisted??? i think that there is an error!
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRr-qdxf3K4

No, it's not an error. While they have some black metal influences, it wasn't enough.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRoFG1DR ... tCB3cBQfAn

Only 2 or 3 songs are ambient, the rest is black metal.

Then we'll have to disagree there. It's mostly ambient with distorted guitars, no metal riffing.

- Warning: a band called "Silence The Earth" (Spain) has been blacklisted!

I found the band and when I tried to submit it, it appeared the blacklist message, why was this blacklisted?

It's more ambient than metal. Last time we checked, at least (December 2012).

I would label it as symphonic black metal, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRXZHeDLcMM, not more ambient than metal, listen.

Tell me if my ears have a problem

We already listened to it. It varies between metal and ambient, sure, but it was eventually decided that the latter is predominant.

Fine, strange collective decision, but well, its respected.

Hello I submitted Odious from Albania and was rejected http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Odious/3540364771

I find all the songs from the release for listening on youtube

Symphony of Dark Autumn

01. Overture http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5ATQYIOinA
02. Symphony of Dark Autumn http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAxKYu5bk4I or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLeQ-Lg9C-c
03. Season of Mystical Observe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvAk65KAzfQ
04. Downfall http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCWTK_hCVmI
05. In the Dark Elegy pt I http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLeQ-Lg9C-c
06. In the Dark Elegy pt II http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o-LtKxPsSQ
07. Storm of Sorrow Abyss http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXFc9EqD4RM
08. Silent Noisy Winter http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE4b5bLDcNs
09. Beyond the Creatures of Dead Passion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0i6YRa5QTV8
10. Fund (the end) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QmMW4P1O2w

I think is enough proof of at least a digital release

I submitted Syrgjyn also from Albania (http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Odious/3540364771) as well, is still pending but I will add links of the complete tracklist of their release that is on youtube for listening, those bands and their releases are on Spirit of Metal database also.

Menifest of Essence
01. Prelude to infinity http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ht2v1zwkApU
02. An Infinity to Suffer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QAPgq7FIqw
03. Oblivion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iICORr_dabM
04. A Lost Soul And Swallows http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AQjJ8lf6YM
05. Karma Lux (Albageddon) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5aJrwF4ZpU
06. Djajtë, Jo Unë... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEb3qC7_Nxc
07. Manifest of Essence http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsFzmOYCnS8
08. Xhehenem (Bonus Track) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbaN0z0yOQI

greetings!

Releases must be available to download, streaming-only albums (i.e. Youtube) are not considered valid releases.

Ok I understand, those band have credibility though, I thought It would be good to find them in this great metal database.
sorry for the inconvenience, greetings!

So. You do not know recognize an atmospheric black metal. The moderators are an amount of shit, garbage, a band of salted porks, idiots an assholes, I don't need this crapsite anymore. If you have some respect...well I can be banned, there is no matter. YOU MORRONS!!!

I've deleted it you pathetic morrons. Its a lost cause agaist ignorants.

Are you high? This is not the right place for that.

Salted porks? Is that some sort of third world insult? What did I miss?

*moron.

Will not understand why Lucifer's Friend was removed from the Archives. YES, i know that the majority of their discography wasn't metal BUT, Their 1st album, 2nd album and Mean Machine are Definitive metal. Here are some examples:

Cool Hand Killer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRoW4-zhsZk

Ride The Sky
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVpe13BwR9c

Lucifer's Friend
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_Bk-SIoUbw

Easy answer to that question. An overzealous former mod decided to take it upon his own initiative (without asking anyone) to remove it and other "70s Rock" like Flower Travellin' Band, simply because of his own personal biases. Thank you for bringing this to our attention; I'm willing to look into them again with the rest of the staff.

From what I know of them, Lucifer's Friend were hard rock, but I'll take a look at the stuff you mentioned and discuss it with the staff as Derigin mentioned.

Thanks for the new signature.

Years ago my project "Frater Ximenes is Dead" had been rejected because it was only "pure noise" due to the lack of a normal recording kit. Actually we're black metal and we released a demo and you can find a track on this link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pq8ORgtY2h4.
All the demo is Black Metal with some avantgarde elements and a moderator asked me to find a song for demostration. Here it is.
If you need to listen all the other tracks contact me through PM.

Hmm, I will be interested to see what happens with this development. FTB especially are a pretty important piece of metal's development and I was sad to see them go.

Hey mods, why was Nuclear Devastation (Netherlands) blacklisted?

Crust punk.

hmmm where is my message????

So I ask once again (message seems to be lost ^^)
Why ist the austrian project Uruk-Hai deleted???? Two albums are Metal....maybe the rest seems ambient, but if you look, you have many of such bands.....even from the same artist the Band *Eismond* . Just the FIRST demo ist Ambient, the following outputs are all Black Metal like, so i see no reason for it not to be add.
Hope you can explain it, thanks

The blacklist says it's ambient. Post samples for the releases you consider metal here if you disagree.