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odium
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 3:14 am 
 

odium wrote:
MaziKeen (Australia) have been blacklisted for not having physical release. Now they have it (http://depressiveillusions.com/items/ta ... -mazikeen; https://ironbloodanddeath.bandcamp.com/album/makizeen), but I can't resubmit them for being black listed. How to solve that?

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thrashersejati
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 7:00 am 
 

Whitelist 13 Krieg! please.

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/13 ... 540431224#

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TheGrimWombat
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 7:11 am 
 

thrashersejati wrote:


I bet if you ask a couple more times that it will expedite this.
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NARAKU666
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:24 am 
 

Im checking Slowly Building Weapons new album and sounds a bit more Black Metal than their previous release. what do you think?

https://slowlybuildingweapons.bandcamp. ... sunbirds-2
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cepit
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2017 9:40 pm 
 

Can someone tell me what blacklist notes says on Cryptical Death from Indonesia? And since what year it was blacklisted?
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Kjetter
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 1:41 am 
 

cepit wrote:
Can someone tell me what blacklist notes says on Cryptical Death from Indonesia? And since what year it was blacklisted?

"Mostly punk-fueled grindcore", 2015.

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blyoung
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 1:16 pm 
 

Iron Bastards?

Iron Bastards (from France) is a band whose music is firmly in the Motorhead style, much like Asomvel. Their website describes the band as "fast rock 'n' roll", but I believe it is metal. They could quite likely be using this as a homage to Lemmy, who also often introduced his band with the phrase "We are Motorhead, and we play rock 'n' roll".

I searched here to see why they weren't listed, but saw no discussion of them. I'm sure they have been considered previously, though, so wanted to start here in this forum.

Here is their most recent album, which was released on F.D.A. Records.

https://ironbastards.bandcamp.com/album/fast-dangerous

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ethanthedrummer
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 4:41 pm 
 

I am trying to add an atmospheric black metal band called "Demiurge", but am unable to since another band from the US called Demiurge is blacklisted.

Here's the bandcamp link:
https://demiurge-nc.bandcamp.com/album/sitra-achra

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Of_This_Night36
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 7:55 pm 
 

Just posting again since we're on a new page:

Of_This_Night36 wrote:
Could Frozen Night be revisited? This meets the time requirements and definitely seems to be metal, to me.
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Cudnoredje
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 8:41 pm 
 

Zodijackyl wrote:
NZBrutalDeath wrote:
Hi there. Just went to add a band from my country called Blindfolded and Led to the Woods who have just released their debut album, but it says they are blacklisted? Just wondering what's up with that...

Thanks!
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Blacklist note is from 2013 and says they are more -core than metal. A quick listen seems to confirm that.


it's opposite, actually. maybe you should give them another try by listening to it more carefully. technical deathcore/death metal:
https://balttw.bandcamp.com/album/my-vaseline-diaries
they also have released a new album in 2017. but it's still unavailable for full online checking.
but this new song is showing more metal than core direction:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0I0NBiWorew
this one also:
https://balttw.bandcamp.com/track/licking-a-landmine

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and what blacklist note says for The Rivalry (Australia)???

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Erosion of Humanity
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2017 9:32 pm 
 

I'll try and hit all the open inquiries tomorrow. I'm out tonight.
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Erosion of Humanity
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 10:46 am 
 

thrashersejati wrote:


I don't even understand what you're talking about. This was just blacklisted on 9/27, so unless in under two weeks you have a new and valid release stop spamming the thread.

odium wrote:
odium wrote:
MaziKeen (Australia) have been blacklisted for not having physical release. Now they have it (http://depressiveillusions.com/items/ta ... -mazikeen; https://ironbloodanddeath.bandcamp.com/album/makizeen), but I can't resubmit them for being black listed. How to solve that?


whitelisted, go ahead and submit.

NARAKU666 wrote:
Im checking Slowly Building Weapons new album and sounds a bit more Black Metal than their previous release. what do you think?

https://slowlybuildingweapons.bandcamp. ... sunbirds-2


I hear some black metal in there but it still sounds way too hardcore, sorry.

blyoung wrote:
Iron Bastards?


This stuff isn't my strong suit but it sounds too rock-ish to me. I'm open to other opinions on the matter.

ethanthedrummer wrote:
I am trying to add an atmospheric black metal band called "Demiurge", but am unable to since another band from the US called Demiurge is blacklisted.

Here's the bandcamp link:
https://demiurge-nc.bandcamp.com/album/sitra-achra


whitelisted for this band.

Cudnoredje wrote:
it's opposite, actually. maybe you should give them another try by listening to it more carefully. technical deathcore/death metal:
https://balttw.bandcamp.com/album/my-vaseline-diaries


and what blacklist note says for The Rivalry (Australia)???


Rivalry - metalcore, super old though, so new material?
Blindfolded..... - the last album they have (2014) is still technical deathcore wankery. No.

Of_This_Night36 wrote:
Just posting again since we're on a new page:

Of_This_Night36 wrote:
Could Frozen Night be revisited? This meets the time requirements and definitely seems to be metal, to me.


Sounds... ermm like it could be metal enough... I'll take it off so it can be evaluated.


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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 10:55 am 
 

Erosion of Humanity wrote:
blyoung wrote:
Iron Bastards?


This stuff isn't my strong suit but it sounds too rock-ish to me. I'm open to other opinions on the matter.

Yeah, Tony asked me about them yesterday and I'm inclined to agree with you.
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Bachstein
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 11:23 am 
 

Erosion of Humanity wrote:

Did I miss anyone?


Bachstein wrote:

They have a new material which you can check below;
http://five-the-hierophant.bandcamp.com/album/over-phlegethon

It's still a 'genre hodgepodge', but I'd say it's mainly metal with other genres mixed with, not a musical medley with some metal.
Could you please check?

Thanks!

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TheStormIRide
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 11:25 am 
 

blyoung wrote:
Iron Bastards?


Just for solidarity I gave them a listen yesterday when they came up in #metal and I was thinking they took too much from the rock side of things. Three's company.
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 11:29 am 
 

Bachstein wrote:
Erosion of Humanity wrote:

Did I miss anyone?


Bachstein wrote:

They have a new material which you can check below;
http://five-the-hierophant.bandcamp.com/album/over-phlegethon

It's still a 'genre hodgepodge', but I'd say it's mainly metal with other genres mixed with, not a musical medley with some metal.
Could you please check?

Thanks!

Agreed, whitelisted.
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odium
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 11:42 am 
 

Erosion of Humanity wrote:
whitelisted, go ahead and submit.

Thank you.

Can I also please get some clearness on pre-orders, in particular - Ziggurat and Witchcraft Sadomizer on "Caligari Records"? Cause the story was that both bands were presented in "Caligari's" bandcamp with one track each, mentioning "Soon on tapes" and given 30 September as the release date. I know what pre-order means, therefore I waited for submission according to the rules. Later on in Ziggurat case the tracklist was added to bandcamp, but no option to buy the tape, the release date was changed to October 5. Therefore, in the webstore of the label, you could already PRE-ORDER the tape, and it was clearly pointed out as PRE-ORDER on the main page, as well as in the product page. So I waited again. On the 5th of October the tape for Ziggurat was added to bandcamp site and it was possible to order it already (no sign of pre-order!). Besides, the FB post said - "ZIGGURAT's Ritual Miasma can now be ordered from our bandcamp page".

https://www.facebook.com/CaligariRecord ... 7552479665

So I think that's the evidence that the tape can be purchased, and not only pre-ordered, or isn't it? Besides, the official webstore does not have the pre-order mark already:

http://caligarirecords.storenvy.com/col ... ma-cal-074

Yes, I see that the shipping starts from 11th of October, but in this case - does it still count as pre-order? You can easily place an order in any underground label's webshop, and you definitely won't get it shipped sooner than 1-2 days later. So I don't think "ships from" could be considered as the official release date, or should it?

Finally, the label's FB posted yesterday that both tapes can be bought in "Steelworker Records" shop in Tampa physically:

https://www.facebook.com/CaligariRecord ... 60/?type=3

I don't think any more evidence should be needed, or should it? Btw, forgot to mentione that Ziggurat was rejected twice for being pre-order.

The case with Witchcraft Sadomizer is almost identical. While it was on pre-order status, someone has already submitted it in the queue. I submitted it already when you could order it without any mention of pre-order, but it was rejected because someone else submitted it earlier (even if it was clearly done before it was possible to order it without the pre-order option). I understand it is difficult to follow when the official status of pre-order changes to regular order, still - looks like a thing of luck to get into queue on the right time.

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Erosion of Humanity
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 12:07 pm 
 

That is kind of a tricky case. I would say that as long as there is an option to purchase and not pre-order than it is ok. Yes, shipping may take a few days, that's ok. Keep in mind though that like in the case you mentioned if the label changes things and it gets switched back to pr-order before we check it then it would most likely be rejected.
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odium
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 12:18 pm 
 

Erosion of Humanity wrote:
That is kind of a tricky case. I would say that as long as there is an option to purchase and not pre-order than it is ok. Yes, shipping may take a few days, that's ok. Keep in mind though that like in the case you mentioned if the label changes things and it gets switched back to pr-order before we check it then it would most likely be rejected.

I understand, but in these particular cases, I don't see any sigh of pre-ordering:

http://caligarirecords.storenvy.com/col ... ma-cal-074

http://caligarirecords.storenvy.com/col ... es-cal-075

https://caligarirecords.bandcamp.com/al ... lack-holes

https://caligarirecords.bandcamp.com/al ... ual-miasma

So can those bands be re-submitted, with these links as evidence, or are you going to submitted them for other members, cause both bands are waiting in queue already?

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Rvinz
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 1:08 pm 
 

Dear Erosion Of Humanity, I didn't understood if my submission for Tulpa (Italy) was rejected due to the lenght of the release or the abscence of evidence of being released as a physical CD. Physical copies as been sold at gigs and from today are available on band's bandcamp page, even if is available as a digital release since August 29, 2017 (submission has been rejected today).

Evidences of physical release:
https://imgur.com/a/BE0nr
https://imgur.com/a/oPP0I

Link for purchasing the release: https://tulpaofficial.bandcamp.com/album/fear-of-fades

Thanks for your time
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Of_This_Night36
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2017 1:37 pm 
 

Erosion of Humanity wrote:
Of_This_Night36 wrote:
Could Frozen Night be revisited? This meets the time requirements and definitely seems to be metal, to me.


Sounds... ermm like it could be metal enough... I'll take it off so it can be evaluated.
Does that mean I should submit it or that the mods are going to talk about it some more first?
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Raviz: you're good dude. I missed the bandcamp page, my bad.

OtN: submit so it can be judged.
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Erosion of Humanity wrote:
Raviz: you're good dude. I missed the bandcamp page, my bad.


No prob, I see that now is all ok. Thanks!

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^ The genre tag still needs attention, Ero.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:10 am 
 

The band Degree Absolute was deleted from here 4 years ago with this explanation given:
"Ambient/experimental with even some djent. Not "Progressive/Technical Metal" in the slightest."

Which is just blatantly wrong, there's some ambient tracks on it, but it is a textbook Progressive/Technical album in the vein of Spiral Architect or Zero Hour.
The whole album can be heard here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfYZCtGmF_k.
No djent at all, only some standard "modern prog metal" riffs. Have no idea where that notion came from.

Would be nice to see it reinstated as it seems to have been removed very arbitrarily! The band is quite good to boot.

Cheers mod team!

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Yeah, as the one who deleted them in 2013 I'm not really sure what went on here. You're right, this is metal. I can only assume that the sampling at the time was quite misleading and/or from another period of their discography (there's only the album and a single, as far as I can tell, though)? :scratch: Maybe it's even another band with the same name? Hm, could be I just fucked up.

Whatever the case, I have removed them from the blacklist now. Unfortunately, the deletion is too old to have the original to restore, so please resubmit a fresh entry. My bad.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:39 am 
 

Azmodes wrote:
Yeah, as the one who deleted them in 2013 I'm not really sure what went on here. You're right, this is metal. I can only assume that the sampling at the time was quite misleading and/or from another period of their discography (there's only the album and a single, as far as I can tell, though)? :scratch: Maybe it's even another band with the same name? Hm, could be I just fucked up.

Whatever the case, I have removed them from the blacklist now. Unfortunately, the deletion is too old to have the original to restore, so please resubmit a fresh entry. My bad.

Thanks for the response! Mistakes happen, I will try to re-submit 'em whenever I get the chance! :)

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Erosion of Humanity wrote:

I don't even understand what you're talking about. This was just blacklisted on 9/27, so unless in under two weeks you have a new and valid release stop spamming the thread.


Ok so i just need to wait for 2 weeks and resubmit. Thanks, i will wait then. Sorry, I never knew that the blacklisting is temporary. I repost a few times here because no one didnt bother to reply to me at all.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:03 am 
 

Why was Rites of Daath blacklisted?

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Erosion of Humanity
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thrashersejati wrote:
Erosion of Humanity wrote:

I don't even understand what you're talking about. This was just blacklisted on 9/27, so unless in under two weeks you have a new and valid release stop spamming the thread.


Ok so i just need to wait for 2 weeks and resubmit. Thanks, i will wait then. Sorry, I never knew that the blacklisting is temporary. I repost a few times here because no one didnt bother to reply to me at all.


No. That's not what i said at all. I told you to stop asking because your band was just blacklisted two weeks ago. And since you have not released anything new since then this isn't going to change.

EpicDismemberment wrote:
Why was Rites of Daath blacklisted?


Album isn't out yet.
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Hello,
I have been trying to add our (my) band Üsik and was e-mailed this, "The band you have submitted was already submitted by another user (possibly shortly before you and thus was not yet approved), and therefore your submission has been deleted to avoid a duplicate entry."

We tried to add the band one year ago but were rejected due to lack of proof, so we tried deleting that submission before re-applying with all newly updated links, members, and band photo's. When checking the Band Submission Queue, the one and only result is the correct one that is fully updated and that we (I) submitted, yet says that "this band is still pending approval." I was just wondering if there was any way to get around this without deleting everything and starting all over. Much thanks and we appreciate everything that you do.

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I know that this band was previously blacklisted for non-qualifying output, but I think their latest LP "Submersion" just makes the cut as a valid progressive deathcore album in the same way that a few others do on here. I've provided the Bandcamp link below.

https://darkwatersend.bandcamp.com/album/submersion-2
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 3:43 am 
 

Why are my bands blacklisted?
EDIT: I apologize if I had an attitude when I asked several months back, I appreciate everything you guys do.

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Erosion of Humanity
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What band would that be? Kinda hard to tell since you tried to whitewash your post history.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 2:27 pm 
 

VirusVI wrote:
Why are my bands blacklisted?
EDIT: I apologize if I had an attitude when I asked several months back, I appreciate everything you guys do.

labooulalagazza? Not predominantly metal on sub-20 minute release.

And yeah:

Erosion of Humanity wrote:
What band would that be? Kinda hard to tell since you tried to whitewash your post history.

Annoying.

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VirusVI
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:04 pm 
 

Actually it was DTI that was not "predominantly metal" and when i asked on here before, i wasn't answered onto why that was determined. So therefore I just tried to erase the posts but couldn't so i whitewashed them, my apologies and that will not continue.

labooulalagazza was another band I was trying to submit but it wouldnt let me get that far. Thank you for getting back to me.

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Erosion of Humanity
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Well that's just stupid logic. Don't do it gain.
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VirusVI
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:01 pm 
 

Got it. Is there anyway i can get un-blacklisted?

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Kjetter
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VirusVI wrote:
Got it. Is there anyway i can get un-blacklisted?

Any project can always be reevaluated based on new releases. The blacklist isn't a ban, it's just a means to avoid evaluating the same material repeatedly.
Laboo-etc was evaluated in June it seems, and there is a listing for DTI from April.

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I was looking for info on a raw black metal band from Canada called Flešš. Les Fleurs Du Mal just released one of their tapes on the 7th. I went to search it and didn't find any entries, so I went to try and submit the band.
I was told the band was blacklisted, but I don't know why. It seems like an obscure one-man project, and I don't know why it would be on the blacklist.

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