http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Gothmog/3540345523
this band/demo have one single black metal track which is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdeLQAxQzHo
not enough? i just ask, maybe was a mistake that rejection.

listen full song for evidence. depressive silence also have black metal material on that split.

No, not enough, that's just one track out of seven. It's ambient (or "dungeon synth", how I've seen this called). I'm not even sure I would call that one track predominantly black metal. We don't list bands with 1-2 metallic songs in their discography. We list metal bands.

Sorry, but one single metal track among a heap of atmospheric/ambient tracks isn't enough. A band has to have a release which is mostly metallic for it to be accepted.

EDIT: Azmodes beat me to it...

now i understand. thank you!

Does anybody know if This is Hell has been blacklisted or rejected from the site? Their new album "Black Mass" could be considered crossover thrash. I don't wanna bother mods with a submission of a band that they've rejected already.

Hint: if you type a band's name in at the Add a Band section, the website will alert you if the band has been blacklisted, which will save you the trouble of filling out the whole band submission form.



I don't know if their new album has been discussed, though, so you might as well give it a shot if you think it's metal.

Im fresh new member to this forum, but not that fresh in world of metal, so I ask why Omega Lithium (Croatia) is blacklisted??

It is metal! Maybe if you listen Sodom all day, and then turn to this symphonic gothic metal, you would say that there is no metal influence, But this is metal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRvrs8yDBbo
They have webpage: http://www.omegalithium.com/home.php
They have CD (worldwide available): http://omegalithium.bigcartel.com/produ ... -formaline
And they are not side project.

Thanks for reading.

Down-tuned percussive chugging + lots of keyboards = Slipknot and Evanescence's love-child.

Sorry.

Hmmm, OK. But if you look Nightwish like that, especially their new album... And Nightwish is very popular - mostly because their music is soft and symphonic - but they are still on this page. But I wont argue with you, and I admit they are sound like Evanescence, I just tried to add them because they are from my country and they music is nice.

I wouldn't say that Nightwish's newest stuff is metal, either. They were accepted because their earlier albums were metallic. Remember, a band only needs one predominantly, unambiguously metal release for it to qualify for acceptance here.

Some of Nightwish's newest stuff isn't metal but a lot of the older stuff wasn't either. Other than those few songs, one of the only differences from their older songs is that they have a new singer, it's still definitely metal.

I don't know why my band "Asylum of Death" is blacklisted. You send me a message 'is not genre of metal'. On making a band profile i wrote "Deathcore/Death Metal", my band was rejected, but you have a lot of "Deathcore/Death Metal" bands... And it is metal.

There's varying degrees of deathcore, mate. Some bands are acceptably death metal-based (like All Shall Perish), whereas others are *way* too rooted in hardcore to have a chance at getting into this site (e.g., Suicide Silence).

Your band was blacklisted because it was predominantly -core rather than metal. Sorry.

But We have only vocal and breakdowns from deathcore, riffs and drums are from black, death metal But ok, i will not quarrel

Okay, so I tried to add a band named Chelsea Grin, but it appears it's already been blacklisted. I look through your bands and Carnifex made the "metalness" cut. I'd just like to say that both bands are in the same genre and have similar sounds. I'd like you to check out their "My Damnation" album or their new single "Lilith" and tell me their not metal. I'm not trying to be a smart-ass, I'd just like this band to get it's credibility as a metal band. Another instance similar to this one. I tried to add Disfiguring the Goddess, but that one was already blacklisted. But, once again, I notice that I Declare War and Ingested made the cut. They sound exactly the same. I don't know what the issue is but I'd really like to.

You think that the band being labeled as metal by the website will somehow bring them "credibility"...?

Mattallica1994, there's an answer two posts above your one, if you care to look up and re-read it, mate.

You know why the "But you accepted band X, why not band Y?!" argument never works...? Because well-known borderline bands would've been accepted based on a more metallic/less dubious release than the ones they're more commonly known for. A common example is Meshuggah, and people always point fingers to them when inquiring about bands like Animals as Leaders and Vildhjarta. Sure they're djent, but it was their older stuff they were accepted on.

You brought up I Declare War as having made the cut. Well, they've released four studio albums, and only one of them needs to be fully metallic for the band to earn a place here. The rest can all be unacceptable deathcore for all it matters, and that's when comparisons to blacklisted bands like Chelsea Grin will surface. Well-known blacklisted bands wouldn't have been blacklisted without weighing their discography carefully, so it's clear that Chelsea Grin will never be unblacklisted.

At least until they pull off a Soulfly and release an album like Enslaved that's full-blown metal.

Hi!

Weeks ago I submitted the french band 400 The Cat (Hardcore / Noise), but it was rejected (non metal band). Here's the link :

http://400thecat.bandcamp.com/

And it's not metal??

Like you said, sounds like (post-)hardcore/noise rock. Virtually no metal riffs to be found.

So?

It's a side-project.

Greetings , well, i added a band recently called Kolldbaakhel but in the genre i wrote Post/Depressive Black Metal by mistake, and was rejected and blacklisted, the correct genre is Depressive Black Metal, i hope you can help me. only was a mistake.
Thanks EM.

You e-mailed me two tracks which sounded VERY post-rock-ish, so unless there's a whole bunch of tracks that *are* metal, I'm afraid your project's got no place on this site.

yes, but those songs were only samples, not the original,are not instrumental, these songs dont have harsh vocals or drums, the band dont use "clean" vocals like other band, the vocals is more Depressive Black Metal, look, ill give you other songs of the band, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gdxrs_u ... ture=g-upl is the sound of the band, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8B-khoyc ... ure=relmfu , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiEFhzQm ... ure=relmfu , other song, listen the vocals, is more like depressive black metal the genre of the band, i understand in the case of "Les Discrets" or "The Last Days" but this is different, the band has more songs but are not in the web, but i assure you that the band is Depressive Black Metal, only was a mistake with the genre.

Okay, this is completely different. Next time when a mod asks you to provide song samples, please provide samples that best reflect the sound of the band, and not some instrumental demo recordings. There was 0 metal to be heard in either of the two tracks you sent me, so yeah, with that and the presence of the "Post-" prefix in the genre tag, I was pretty damn convinced the other songs were like that.

You can resubmit now.

sorry for that little mistake, and thank you, no problem not happen again...

You rejected a Band called "Dreaded Downfall".

While I understand you do not want Mallcore/cheesy Bullet for my Valentine-teenie screamo kiddies, I must remind you that you accepted a band called "The Sorrow".

I think we can agree that breakdowns are to a certain degree an indicator for the "coreness" of a band - the more breakdown, the more "-core" and the less "metal".

With that in mind, I count at least two breakdowns in a "The Sorrow"-song. Not really remarkable, as The Sorrow are clearly a metalcore band, even though greatly influenced by nowadays Melodic Death Metal.

Now, I see exactly THREE breakdowns on the whole EP of Dreaded Downfall - that is three breakdowns for six songs.

The biggest part of their songs is furious soloing, epic riffs and a singer that can actually sing (and does NOT sound like a cheesy wimp as BFMV) just as well as growl like Thor's hammer would.

and of course you will want to listen to samples and decide for yourself (again, hopefully differently):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOfEb6ek8_c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_5JwLKuLEg

Wondering why PERDITION ORACLE (from Australia) are blacklisted. Here's a link to some music:

http://soundcloud.com/carrionritual/perdition-oracle-litanies-of

This is a project of IV, who runs Adverse Order Music and plays in Ill Omen, Temple Nightside, Nazxul, etc. Sounds (black) metal enough to my ears, and also appear (to me) to possibly fall under the side project rule as well, if the admins agree.

My initial reaction was going to be one of "physical proof needed," but I found mention of a cassette by the band on http://www.adverseordermusic.com/ (if you scroll down under "Releases" down to like the bottom quarter). And while I am no moderator, it sounds metal enough to my ears to warrant inclusion, side-project rule be damned.

I am really wondering why the UK hard rock band UFO isn't allowed in the metal-archives. Budgie, Deep Purple, Thin Lizzy, Rush, and the Scorpions have all been included, why not UFO? UFO have songs that are just as metal as any of those bands I just listed already in the metal-archives, not just a few songs either. UFO have many among many songs that are metallish and or just full on traditional heavy metal.

Here are the Scorpions' Virgin Killer album title track:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBqhlKGMmt0

Here is UFO's Rock Bottom at 14:31:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f467C5ZlhhA

Both of these songs by these same bands are just as heavy and they only have a two year difference, the Virgin Killer title track coming out in 1976 and Rock Bottom coming out in 1974.


Here is Deep Purple's Speed King:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P05qji8T ... re=related

Here is UFO's Lights Out album title track at 13:28:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3a1F8T5kzxM

Once again both songs are just as heavy. Speed King came out in 1970 while the Lights Out title track was released in 1977.


Here is the title track song from Thin Lizzy's final studio album with Phil Lynott, Thunder and Lightning:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5adrB9VV6dc&feature=fvst

Here is something much more recent from UFO from their first album with Vinnie Moore in 2004, You Are Here, Black Cold Coffee:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyIinzuKQxM


I believe I have given a reasonable amount of given songs to support my claim that I feel UFO should be included in the metal-archives if bands such as Budgie, Deep Purple, Rush, the Scorpions, and Thin Lizzy are already in. Thank you for your time reading this post the good moderator(s) that took the time to do so.

Hello again,

attached is the picture of the physical CD, so please add it finally.

mightymonsterrecords

Hello again,

attached is the picture of the physical CD, so please add it finally.

mightymonsterrecords

Sorry. While there's some metallic guitar solos to be heard, the majority of it is heavily watered-down metalcore/pop-ish hard rock. The track Oracle opens up with a nice guitar lead, but precisely 1:00 into the song, the music takes a hell-sized shit and doesn't get any better after that, either. Way too borderline I'm afraid, sorry.


Side-project rule doesn't apply here, but the track leaves me curious. It's obviously black metal, but the band was blacklisted for being "Ambient". This suggests another moderator had listened to the entirety of the tape and deemed it to have more dark ambient tracks than metallic tracks. So unless somebody's able to prove that the rest of the tracks sound like this, I can't go and unblacklist them willy-nilly.


Sorry, but UFO - and virtually every hard rock band from the 70s, has been brought up and discussed to death in this thread. The bands you mentioned are on Metal Archives because at least *one* of their releases was metallic enough for the band to warrant inclusion - the rest of their discography is composed of otherwise unacceptable hard rock (at least by the site's standards of what's metallic). Now, we're not asking or expecting you to agree with us, and something doesn't have to be metal to be good, but I humbly ask that everybody here avoid bringing up well-known bands that're blacklisted... because if bands of that magnitude have been blacklisted, it indicates they've been blacklisted after lengthy discussion and evaluation. THIS GOES FOR EVERYBODY, PEOPLE.



Okay, a couple things:

1. It's actually not proof of physical release we're looking for. We asked you to provide song samples, and the link on the site was inaccessible. Does this link work for you, or does it ask you to type in a password as well...?
   
   
2. Please don't double post. If you forgot to write something in a post, you can click the "Edit" button to add missing info. I've circled the image here for you:
   
3. When attaching big images inside a post, please wrap them in [spoiler][/spoiler] tags like this, so they don't stretch the screen. It's a pain in the arse for other users. The code should look like this:
   
   How mightymonsterrecords should have wrote:
   [spoiler][attachment=0] blah, blah, blah [/attachment][/spoiler]
   
   To achieve this, just highlight the text in your post and click the button above the text box that says "Spoiler"... do you understand?

I don't know who blacklisted Perdition Oracle, but the only possible reason is that the album is not out yet. The part about ambient must be a mistake, as it's pure black metal (I already have a copy of tape version, but it's not officially available yet, it will be available together with the CD version).

Hello, i am new in this page and i want to upload my first band but i dont understant why is rejected if i add the proofs in the submission notes, if it something more that i have to do please tell me.

You need to include evidence of something physical. Something like this:
• http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/4666/example01r.jpg
• http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/2332/example02.jpg

I recently tried to add the following band.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Funesta-N ... 2899039607
http://www.myspace.com/567621257

In the rules it says that a review from a well-known site is also acceptable as evidence of physical release.

Would this do?
http://nocturnalpoisoningzine.blogspot. ... mundi.html

Read the first post, hope this is the right place to ask this

I have been trying to add a band and for some reason they are blacklisted. They have never been on Metal Archives, have physical releases, and have been on multiple labels but for some reason the band "Loud Silence" will not be accepted. I am wondering why this is. Hopefully the blacklisting can be removed so I may add the band.
If there is a good reason for the Blacklisting then do tell please. Thanks.

The band: www.facebook.com/LoudSilenceOFFICIAL

Has been on Depressive Illusions Records, Smell The Stench, and is scheduled for a release on Kadaath records.
Does Depressive Black Metal, Harsh Noise, and Ambience (Often mixed together)
So far the band has 3 physical releases and it working on a split with Exhaled Life

I hope this is enough to remove the blacklisting.