Information on why a band called "writhe" from the United States is blacklisted, please. There are at least two bands called "Writhe" from the U.S., and I'm trying to add one of them (https://www.facebook.com/writhemn/), but I don't know if this is the one that's blacklisted.

If it's not the one, could someone please suspen the blacklist on the name "Writhe" so that I can add this draft?

(please note, I'm aware that the band I linked above does not yet have a valid release; I just want to prepare a draft for when their EP releases.)

My submission for the band Motorpsycho was rejected with the reason, that it is more punk/crossover than metal. The reasoning is completely unrealistic and absurd, since the band plays the exact style of dirty biker heavy metal as bands like Wolfsbane and the Almighty (up to Powertrippin ). The sound is quuite raw and may have some minor punk influences, but the music is good old heavy metal, the riffing is in heavy metal and not punk style and song structures are the same as those of Motorhead or Tank. I therefore, please, request a re-evaluation of the band: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKxBChN9KyI Compare: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bo5se9NjsfY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCAVwQagZ1g I have to stress out, that it is not the sme band as The Norwegian Motorpsycho, this is an American band fromLos Angeles.

Clearly more punk or crossover than metal. The band has been assessed several times already.

Trying to clear out a bit of the backlog here from the last couple pages. If I have overlooked you, please feel free to re-post your request.


We did a bit of an internal review, and stand by the original assessment that none of the albums are predominantly metal. Sorry, man.


It was blacklisted for being "bedroom mallcore." Hmm. Admittedly, this kinda falls between that statement, of it being mallcore/modern metal, and your statement, that it is groove metal. Not unusual for that particular style of metal, but I must admit I'm not totally convinced that it's solidly metal, and that the album has released a predominantly metal album. I can definitely see what you mean, but this is one of those bands where it's probably best to wait for a more clear example of a metal album.


The music is, for the most part, heavily distorted nu-metal. You may disagree and even be offended by that, but that's what the album sounds like and we don't accept that here. Sorry.


Whitelisted. It was originally blacklisted for being predominantly ambient/drone, but I definitely don't think that's the case anymore. Feel free to resubmit for judgment.


It was blacklisted for being "alt/southern rock with some metal mixed in." That... is actually what this still sounds like. Sorry.


It was blacklisted for being a "largely riffless bedroom band." That was back in 2016. Admittedly, I'm not personally convinced that, that album is very much different, but, I think it's worth being reviewed in the band queue for judgment. Please feel free to resubmit.


This album is predominantly psychedelic rock. A little on the heavy side, but not metal. Sorry.


Hmm. Both are pretty clearly classic/hard rock. Jerusalem even gives me Jesus Christ Superstar vibes. Sorry.



It was blacklisted for being "hard rock, mostly." That seems like a fair assessment of it. There's some metal moments, but the music is predominantly rock.


The album is more -core than metal. Sorry.


The "Writhe" that was blacklisted appears to be a different band, judging by the sample I heard on that Facebook page you linked there. The one in the notes is for a "noise band" from back in 2014. I've gone ahead and whitelisted the name. Feel free to submit, once the album is out. Thank you for bringing this up to us ahead of time.

Another question: The British band Kill II This is mainly known for their later nu-metal releases, but their less known first album Another Cross II Bare is, in my opinion, a valid thrash/groove metal release in the style of Pantera and Machine Head. Could the band Kill II This be whitelisted on the basis of this album:? The download of the whole album: http://www.uschovna.cz/zasilka/XVMJPA2K7DUP8IW6-XYK
Another issue: In order to help the user Saetiah, who has asked about the black metal/crust band Arsen aka König der Monster, I am reposting the link to the whole ep No Gods...Only Monsters on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5Jwe3lPvbA

Hi guys,

I have got the rejection mail of the band I tried to submit (with style description "Progressive Metal/Mathcore")



Although I respect that decision, I would have hoped for a (little) more detailed justification why you think that the band is not a metal band. (In that case, I wouldn't even be typing this right now.) I am just guessing that the Metal Archives do not want to list Mathcore bands (with some exceptions that slipped through the review) although it is a (sub-)genre that is nearer to metal styles (e.g. technical death metal) than to hardcore/punk styles.

If I understood your mail correctly, I might get "real" reasons in this thread. So, again, here are a few samples:

Hi, there's an active band from Ecuador, called Lasen. They play along 22 years or even more.
They formerly played Death metal with his previous names Bestris, and later Agrasabeth. Then changed his name to Lasen, playing doom metal influenced by Anathema. Later changed their estyle again to Death Metal, and nowadays they are playing again Doom Metal - progresive.
Played a few months ago, besides no more no less than Arcturus from Norway on it's show in Colombia 2018
Have released at least 5 official albums and 1 split:

o Análogo (2000)
o Al diablo nuestro mundo (2003)
o Sin embargo el instinto (2005)
o Mi divergencia (2010)
o El menor de los males (2017) (split with Total Death)
o Vértigo Andes (2018)

This is the band's link on fecebook:
https://www.facebook.com/LASEN.musica/

Please unlock them. They deserve to appear on metal archives as the most sublime band of Ecuador. I've try to upload pictures from their albums, but the band is banned.
On the rules, you have stated that some progressive music bands are banned; I understand that. But this band played DEATH METAL for over a decade. On their early days played Doom Metal. Nowadays are playing more progressive experimental DOOM METAL. This is metal after all played by a metal group.

Thanks

Hi. I know a metal band that has released 6 official albums. The band played doom metal early, and most recently death metal. However the band appears backlisted. I presume, that it was banned because another guy didn't gave enought evidence from the band long time ago. Now they have 6 albums on cd and digital streaming. Which is the process to consider the reversal of a banned group. I could provide all the evidence that you need, in order to evaluate the music again.

Thanks

Could Unreqvited be re-evaluated again based on their new album?

https://unreqvited.bandcamp.com/

well for one, you seem to not at all understand a thing about genres because this band is absolutely not “progressive metal / mathcore”.
Secondly, how exactly would this pass or be considered metal? They construct entire songs out of chug-a-lug “riffs”.

Out of the few songs you linked above that I had just heard, this seems to be some kind of weird jazz influenced djentcore (which doesn’t qualify as metal for the same reasons that Periphery or Animals as Leaders don’t)

PS: you should really learn what mathcore sounds like by the way, because this band does not really seem to be mathcore except for maybe the only exception being the first 20 seconds of the last song you linked.

So, this should disqualify probably about half the bands/artists currently on the site? What is a lot of death metal/groove metal/thrash metal?

Well, I don't know their previous record so I cannot judge, but they just released their second album and it's clearly in the metal side. Of course keyboards and synts are way upfront but I think that's expected for and atmospheric metal band.

https://unreqvited.bandcamp.com/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDkaDjKatX0

Maybe you could start by revealing the name of the band?

It's in the post just above this one.

Thanks for noting, this is totally right. I consider that a compliment (because most subgenres are just utter bullshit (no offense!) and it's a waste of time to get deeper into that business).
Since "progressive metal" is a term for almost everything (not only the range from Dream Theater to Opeth) that doesn't clearly fit into one "subgenre" of metal, I consider it a pretty good term for what the band does. Most bands The Hirsch Effekt are often compared with are also tagged "mathcore", that's why I used that term, too.
Whatever this is.
That so far is not a disqualification for being metal.
Whatever this is again. (I'm too old to get what "Djent" really is. So for me it is also just another bullshit-ish word some people invented to have some distinction for their subsubsubmusic style.)
I just checked them in the hope you're giving me a good recommendation for bands I might like... Periphery sounds pretty lame, Animals as Leaders sounds like nice guitar work at least.

Well, thanks for trying to explain to me why the band is not a metal band. To be honest: I don't get it. Also, the festivals they have been playing at are not "pure" metal festivals (Wacken 2017, Summer Breeze 2016, With Full Force 2016 & 2018, UK Tech Fest 2017, Complexity Fest 2018). Maybe that is already a sign that the band is really not a metal band.

Still, a suggestion: If the rejection mail contained "Sounds like chug-a-lug djentcore, not a metal band", I wouldn't have understood a word, but I also wouldn't have asked in this thread. My suggestion is hence to write already in your rejection mails what you think what the style is instead of metal. I think that could reduce the noise (like the one I'm making) in this thread.

Thanks and bye

@sbeyer: GuardAwakening is NOT a moderator. His word bears NO weight the matter. He stepped in, well out of his bounds, to chip in on a subject he should not have to. Yes, he is one of our most well-versed REGULAR users when it comes to -core stuff/subgenres, but he has no authority on the site or forum.

@GuardAwakening: DO NOT MINI-MOD. You should not have to be reminded about this at this point in time. Stop acting like an ass towards other users already. Consider this a formal warning.

Hi, yes of course. Actually before I submit the next lines (I don´t know why it doesn´t appear anywhere):

Hi, there's an active band from Ecuador, called Lasen. They play along 22 years or even more.
They formerly played Death metal with his previous names Bestris, and later Agrasabeth. Then changed his name to Lasen, playing doom metal influenced by Anathema. Later changed their estyle again to Death Metal, and nowadays they are playing again Doom Metal - progresive.
Played a few months ago, besides no more no less than Arcturus from Norway on it's show in Colombia 2018
Another show was besides Vital Remains here in Ecuador in 2013, between other shows.
Have released at least 5 official albums and 1 split:

o Análogo (2000)
o Al diablo nuestro mundo (2003)
o Sin embargo el instinto (2005)
o Mi divergencia (2010)
o El menor de los males (2017) (split with Total Death)
o Vértigo Andes (2018)

This is the band's link on fecebook:
https://www.facebook.com/LASEN.musica/

Please unlock them. They deserve to appear on metal archives as the most sublime band of Ecuador. I've try to upload pictures from their albums, but the band is banned.
On the rules, you have stated that some progressive music bands are banned; I understand that. But this band played DEATH METAL for over a decade. On their early days played Doom Metal. Nowadays are playing more progressive experimental DOOM METAL. This is metal after all played by a metal group.

Thanks



Now searching on other forums, I could find that a guy ask for banning Lasen because several years ago, he buy a cd which; on his opinion it´s not metal enought. That album is "Al diablo nuestro mundo (2003)". This is the second professional release by the band. I admit that ADNM album is very experimental - progressive, but on my opinion is still progressive Metal at all. If you think ADNM is outside the boundaries of Metal Archives, ok that's fine; let's forget that album for over a minute. There´s still 2 Death metal albums + 1 split (Lasen contribution is Death Metal) + 1 Doom Metal Album which testifies that Lasen play Metal music.

All albums was released on CD, with the following exceptions: "El menor de los males", released on FlexyVinyl and "Vértigo Andes", released on digital pendrive; CD format is on production and will be released on a few months according to the band.

Audio Links:

El menor de los males - Cosecha: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx42IR-NWxI
Sin embargo el instinto: https://open.spotify.com/album/1KCiVnDQ ... PTD7vjPr1Q
Mi divergencia: https://open.spotify.com/album/5ter5rxt ... p_gO9IZ2xA
Análogo full album: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqQlf1V6pRs

I will not link ADNM, only because it was the album that banned Lasen from Metal Archives, but you are free to appreciate it´s masterpiece on Lasen´s page on facebook
https://www.facebook.com/LASEN.musica/

or his page on youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYjH2h ... C6qfViLbFQ

Whatever be MA final decision, thanks for your time.

These albums:
o Análogo (2000)
o Al diablo nuestro mundo (2003)

They are far from being metal in any form.

I don't have a Spotify account and no plans to create one, so we'll be needing someone else to give the later albums a spin.

Got that. And I think is totally ok that he stepped in on the subject. (My suggestion in the post is targeted at the reviewers of submissions, though.)

Hello, i'm trying to register my band, Discomfort, but it is marked as blacklisted. I've never tried it before so it must have been someone else doing it and i don't find any explanation about that.
Hope you can get this solved.

Could somebody please tell me, why the German sludge band Off The Gallows was blacklisted? It has a digital release that is over 30 minutes long (only about 25 seconds, but still...), it has fixed tracklisting and is available on Bandcamp. I am guessing it was because of the acoustic post-rock parts in their music, but they do not dominate the music and are supplemented by heavy sludge metal riffs. The riffs are identifiable as metal riffs, they do not drift into atmospheric noise or into the total alternative/shoegaze realm. I am just wondering, because I have listened to them for the first time today and found strange, that they are not listing. Are they considered too post-rock? Thanks. The full album: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_E8V_lyrhEM

Blacklisted for being predominantly post-hardcore in February this year. Have they released anything since?

Blacklisted in mid-2014 for being Grind/Powerviolence of the predominantly Punk kind.
Have they released anything since?

Updates on blacklisted band Gloryhole Guillotine?

Samples from YouTube provided in a previous post on this thread, about two pages back.

No, Off The Gallows have no new releases as far as I know. So I will leave it at that for the moment. Thanks for your answer. Another thing, could I please get an answer about the Kill II This album Another Cross II Bare in the nnext coming days? The reason I am asking about it again is, that the link to the album I have posted will expire in two or maximally three weeks and an re-upload would be neccessary in that case. Thanks aagain.

Hi,

On the next link you can hear previews for all tracks from "Mi Divergencia" album by Lasen:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/mi-di ... 1321255984

the same for all tracks from "Sin embargo el instinto" album on Apple Music Preview site:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/sin-e ... 1311027530

No need to create an account.

On youtube you can hear Lasen track for "El menor de los males" split, on the link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx42IR-NWxI

A youtube video for "Divergencia"

And last, a video for their performance on Bogotá with Arcturus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YAIh3kgcYw

I hope this is evidence enough. Thanks

Sorry, missed link for Divergencia is::
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqQ7ZKD3m7w

Yeah, that's metal enough alright. I would consider it avant-garde/experimental death metal though. Not doom or progressive.
You can submit the band, and please include links to where to get their albums etc.

Well I apologize, but to be fair, nobody has ever offered me the type of idea that I was never allowed to step in and give people a general idea of what is accepted on here. And considering how many times people have been absolute dickheads to me without any repercussion to me in the past on here, I’d consider my post sort of light on that attitude by comparison (hahaha).

But alright then, I’ll accept your warning even though I had no idea behavior like this wasn’t allowed considering how I’ve seen many non-mod users inform other users about their unacceptable band submissions (as I’ve even had it occurred to me a few times by the regulars as well when I was discussing the topic of bands that should have the chance to get whitelisted). Nevertheless, I’ll stay out of this thread for contesting other people’s objections to bands for now on (although I do still find this scolding behavior torwards me a little odd considering how I’ve never seen it applied to non-mod users who have done this exact sort of stuff in the past, but alright).

Generally if we see it we'll say something. We don't catch everything.

There's a seven year old thread at the very top of the forum that explains it:



In any case, I'll deal with the outstanding requests from the last page later today.

I wanted to get more clear why Lilith was rejected. Doom/Noise/Drone/Shoegaze band.

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Lilith/3540422098


https://lilithnm.bandcamp.com/album/i

Blacklisted in early 2017 for being predominantly Post-y stuff/Ambientstuff/non-metallic drone. Have they reeased anything since?

Hello,

It says my project A Portrait of Flesh and Blood is under draft but I updated all needed information and says it is blacklisted. I have provided the links and info to album release through Zero Dimensional Records, the album release date and a link to the released single from the album posted by the label. My other projects have made it on here perfectly fine (ex-Echoes of Silence, A Cursed Spirit in the Mirror, Homophobic Fecalpheliac) so if possible, I would like to fix this. Thank you for your time.



http://apofab.bandcamp.com

Blacklisted for being constantly resubmitted without the release being out. And it's gonna come out until early May, so it stays blacklisted for the time being. Post in here again once the release is out and publicly available.

Why is Lord Averno (Peru) in the Blacklist? This band it is the typical black metal sound.

Split with Vituperio, 2017
( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f0Eld0Qb5s )

Split with Kay Pacha & Layqasqa, 2014
( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4X_iUnXUxEo)

Both Split are in physical format and digital.

Whitelisted based on the 2017 split being valid music-wise and physical.

Obduktio from Finland.

Please check out their latest album "Holotna". Death Metal/Crust?
https://caligarirecords.bandcamp.com/album/holotna

Well, if you remove the swedish death metal-styled guitar sound and semi-growls, this is still basically punk at is core.

Hello there,

I just signed up to try to submit one of my bands that's missing here (seeing some of my past-current bands are in the archives) and as soon as I typed the name the blacklist alert came on. I´m guessing someone else at some point in the past 5 years we´ve been releasing albums has tried to submit the band already and maybe messed up the submission. Is there any way to ask for a review of that submission or make a new one for my band? Or maybe just get further information on why it didn´t fit the rules. I would really appreciate it, thank you very much in advance!

The name of the band is Chaos Before Gea, and some people may label it Metalcore since it´s been a rising genre in my country along with dethcore in the past five years, but reviewers tend to call it simply Modern Metal as in a fusion of classic heavy riffs with maybe a little proggressive influence.

Anyway, don´t mean to be a pain in the ass, I´m just new here hehehe.

Thanks again.