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EzraBlumenfeld
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:58 pm 
 

Why was Unreqvited from Canada blacklisted?
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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:15 pm 
 

Ambient/post-rock with post-black metal influences in the background
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mediocridad
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 4:05 pm 
 

"Sorry mediocridad, Encyclopaedia Metallum was forced to reject your submission for the band Caustic Wound (United States), for the following reason:

The Storeenvy link is dead. Do you have any other proof of release?"

Here: http://headsplitrecords.storenvy.com/pr ... -wound-s-t

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Ayatapuc
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:50 pm 
 

Hi
Why is Putrefuck (International) in the Blacklist? This band is Goregrind - Brutal Death Metal/Grindcore in the vein Pissgrave, Carcass (old), Impetigo, Xysma, Exulceration, Putrid Offal and many others.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy1Fosls9E4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7D_SOFBMZY

(https://f4.bcbits.com/img/0008278620_10.jpg )

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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 8:55 pm 
 

Goregrind, blacklisted in 2014.
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Ayatapuc
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:06 am 
 

Why is Mongólico (Colombia) in the Blacklist? This band is Grindcore in the vein Carcass (old), Napalm Death (Old), Agathocless, Exulceration.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPiJ7STrGJA

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kuropiece
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:09 am 
 

Was any of the previous answers for Silver Dust ?

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DanniLou23
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:20 am 
 

Hey :) I tried to ad a band called UNDERSIDE and it was rejected. I understand that this probably happened when the band had just started and hadn't released a proper album yet (+hadn't reached their musical peak) But they have now, (and it's amazing) so i thought i would link some of the proof of this for a possible revision.
Thanks, DanniLou23


ALBUM TRACK SAMPLES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mr1L4ezfVhM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVhcMPj ... B&index=10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1Ya7U3 ... eB&index=6

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxzMT-R ... YNNTAi00eB

UNDERSIDE - SATAN IN YOUR STEREO: CD (Photo)

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=Unde ... xfq1NfvXiM:

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BastardHead
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:11 pm 
 

DanniLou23 wrote:
Hey :) I tried to ad a band called UNDERSIDE and it was rejected. I understand that this probably happened when the band had just started and hadn't released a proper album yet (+hadn't reached their musical peak) But they have now, (and it's amazing) so i thought i would link some of the proof of this for a possible revision.
Thanks, DanniLou23


ALBUM TRACK SAMPLES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mr1L4ezfVhM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVhcMPj ... B&index=10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1Ya7U3 ... eB&index=6

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxzMT-R ... YNNTAi00eB

UNDERSIDE - SATAN IN YOUR STEREO: CD (Photo)

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=Unde ... xfq1NfvXiM:



Blacklisted in 2014, correct, but it was for musical reasons. "Alt metal/metalcore", and based on these samples I agree 100%. Sounds like a Five Finger Death Punch/Parkway Drive hybrid :ugh:
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JazzHands
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 3:36 pm 
 

They're not a deathcore band.

OpsiusCato wrote:
JazzHands wrote:
I have a quick question about a band.
I was wondering why the technical death metal band Agoron, from WA, United States. has been blacklisted.
Thank you for your time.

-JazzHands

They're a Deathcore band. Of the unacceptable, predominantly -core kind.

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OpsiusCato
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:18 pm 
 

JazzHands wrote:
They're not a deathcore band.

Well... According to our standards, they are. At least until late last year. You're free to call them whatever you want.
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Opus
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:35 pm 
 

But you have to admire his eloquent rhetoric and sharp persuasive turns.
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OpsiusCato
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 5:45 pm 
 

WarDeth88 wrote:
Why is Mongólico (Colombia) in the Blacklist? This band is Grindcore in the vein Carcass (old), Napalm Death (Old), Agathocless, Exulceration.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPiJ7STrGJA

Blacklisted in 2014 for being non-metallic Goregrind.
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DanniLou23
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 12:09 am 
 

BastardHead wrote:
DanniLou23 wrote:
Hey :) I tried to ad a band called UNDERSIDE and it was rejected. I understand that this probably happened when the band had just started and hadn't released a proper album yet (+hadn't reached their musical peak) But they have now, (and it's amazing) so i thought i would link some of the proof of this for a possible revision.
Thanks, DanniLou23


ALBUM TRACK SAMPLES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mr1L4ezfVhM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVhcMPj ... B&index=10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1Ya7U3 ... eB&index=6

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxzMT-R ... YNNTAi00eB

UNDERSIDE - SATAN IN YOUR STEREO: CD (Photo)

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=Unde ... xfq1NfvXiM:



Blacklisted in 2014, correct, but it was for musical reasons. "Alt metal/metalcore", and based on these samples I agree 100%. Sounds like a Five Finger Death Punch/Parkway Drive hybrid :ugh:


Fair enough, well they also released a more traditional metal album in december 2017
maybe this is more to Metallums liking :)

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Xenotath
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 1:14 am 
 

Hello,
I recently tryed to upload the band Strion (ita), but it was rejected, i don't know why evry time i put in the comment for moderators(in the first page of the upload) with the link with all the files (audio and jpg) but evry time they reject my bands, i need to write to this thread and finally they accept my bands,why they don't ceck it beafore reject?
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id= ... kUSwYndMKH
Here is the link with all the stuff, cds are home printed but cdr are really wrll done,not a sticker on it but in some ways printed in the plastic.
Thanks,S.

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BananaSuitMassacre
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 7:49 am 
 

BananaSuitMassacre wrote:
BananaSuitMassacre wrote:
After Faeces Factory was rejected for the VK link not working for the music, I checked the link and saw it works. I think you may need a VK account to access suchlike pages on the website. The link directs you to playlists of both of their releases.

https://vk.com/audios-76742641?section=playlists (page showing both playlists)
https://vk.com/music?z=audio_playlist-76742641_77637800 (playlist 1)
https://vk.com/music?z=audio_playlist-76742641_77637160 (playlist 2)

Got an update?

@Zodijackyl, please update me with the current situation :)

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Shadechaser
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 10:28 am 
 

Hi! Can I know when and why was Italian band "Rome in Monochrome" blacklisted?
As for me their last album is doom (post-)metal.

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MisanthropicEvil
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 2:03 pm 
 

I submitted Rape Revenge, which is a female fronted Grindviolence band from Canada, there is plenty of other Grindcore bands on here and it even says in the rules Grindcore is not allowed. So what the Hell? Why break your own rules? it seems a bit hypocritical and annoying that every time I submit something it gets rejected but there are bands on here with no links, no info, no line-up, no discography info, etc. How do those go through? I feel like you just dont give a damn. Metal is diverse and unlimited, there are bands on here that you label wrong too and it is kinda ridiculous.

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Derigin
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 2:15 pm 
 

Grindcore is one of those genres that lies on the border between what is metal and what isn't... which makes sense, given that grindcore is both a punk-based and metal-based style of music. Some grindcore is more metal than punk, and so those get accepted. Other bands are more punk than metal, and so those get rejected. Presumably, the band you're referring to is more punk than metal. As for your second question/statement about bands with little to no info. There's lots of cases where there's evidence that a band released and distributed a metal album, but we just don't have all the info we need to add it properly (ie. the tracklist is unknown), or we don't know who played on it and what roles they had (ie. the lineup is unknown), or the band existed prior to the Internet (ie. they may obviously have no official website, or other links). But we know the album is metal (since we would have been given samples of it when we judged the band for accepance) and we know the album was released (since we have evidence that it was given out to people, or sold, or whatnot). The lack of info on band pages doesn't mean the band didn't produce anything; it just means the info we have is too incomplete to properly add it.
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CVRSEDBREATH
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 6:01 pm 
 

First of all, I feel like I'm asking the IRS not to audit me. I have this sense of fear that I don't fully understand for the metal archives moderators.

I wanted to ask why Slaves BC is blacklisted. I don't know who submitted it or when.
Here is a link to the latest release:
https://slavesbc.bandcamp.com/album/lo-and-i-am-burning

It is distributed digitally and on vinyl through The Fear and the Void Recordings. Photo evidence here:
https://www.fearandthevoid.com/product- ... g-splatter

Here are some legit websites describing the band as a mixture of black metal, death metal, doom metal, and sludge:
http://metalbandcamp.com/2018/03/slaves ... rning.html
https://noisey.vice.com/en_us/article/x ... etal-scene
https://occultblackmetalzine.blogspot.c ... -fear.html
http://www.indymetalvault.com/2018/02/1 ... ods-fault/
http://thesludgelord.blogspot.com/2018/ ... d.html?m=1


Thank you for your time!

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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 6:36 pm 
 

Sludgy hardcore, blacklisted in December, 2016. Regarding your last crop of links, we really don't value third-party opinions like that, especially when there are song samples available for listening.
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CVRSEDBREATH
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 6:43 pm 
 

ok, thank you for listening

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broken_sword
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 7:40 pm 
 

The band "Πνευματική Διάψευση" ["Spiritual Contradiction"] (https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/%C ... 3540436437) was rejected because they supposedly sound more punk than metal, but I don't think that this is the case. There sure is a good deal of punk vibe in their sound but they're still closer to metal than to punk:

https://spiritualcontradiction.bandcamp ... g-the-ages

Several of their songs feature guitar solos and I think they could be safely characterized as "Crossover".

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Zodijackyl
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 7:58 pm 
 

broken_sword wrote:
The band "Πνευματική Διάψευση" ["Spiritual Contradiction"] (https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/%C ... 3540436437) was rejected because they supposedly sound more punk than metal, but I don't think that this is the case. There sure is a good deal of punk vibe in their sound but they're still closer to metal than to punk:

https://spiritualcontradiction.bandcamp ... g-the-ages

Several of their songs feature guitar solos and I think they could be safely characterized as "Crossover".


Some of it is crossover, but overall it is more punk than metal.

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Father_Merin
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 8:46 pm 
 

A record label announced the tape release for my band with a flyer setting the release date on April 20. Can I add my band based on that official announcement or should I wait until the tape is actually released? Either way, with the waiting list with all the bands in the queue it might be added after the release.
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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 8:54 pm 
 

Wait until it is released.
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Father_Merin
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 8:56 pm 
 

Ok thank you for your reply. I will wait.
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MutantClannfear
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2018 11:37 pm 
 

Diamhea wrote:
Sludgy hardcore, blacklisted in December, 2016. Regarding your last crop of links, we really don't value third-party opinions like that, especially when there are song samples available for listening.

The new release is from March 2018, perhaps re-evaluate?
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Shadechaser
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 2:48 am 
 

Shadechaser wrote:
Hi! Can I know when and why was Italian band "Rome in Monochrome" blacklisted?
As for me their last album is doom (post-)metal.

folks?..

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Emberglance
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 9:05 am 
 

Hello guys, I just received notice that my submission of Au Revoir (United States) and their album Veles has been rejected. I have read the rules but unless I ACCIDENTLY missed it, post-metal is an accepted genre, is it not? Though the band is crossover with post-rock and post-hardcore moments, 70% of their music is in fact post-metal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCWMACqTse4

https://aurevoirit.bandcamp.com/track/deluge

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Witcher
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:19 pm 
 

Hello, I have to ask again. This time, it wil be rather serious. When I returned to the site, with a handicap I did not want mention, bu now I have to ů-OI am nnow completely sightless, I aasked myself many questions: Will my old account work,? How will I be treated? How will my submissions treated without my old mod status.: Will I get undestanding for the possible incompletion of my submissions, caused by my current handicap and the fact, that I am submitting rare nad local bands, preferably from the classic and power metal genre. And my feelings are mixed, I did not worry after one rejection, and after the moderator ----------------------aznodas contacted me and ws very polite and friendly, ny hopes were high. But now I have a feeling, that many of my worries have come true. After my rejoicing, tthat I found the proof of physical rlease for the band S- Rave, that band was rjected today with the reasoning, that the sample sounds ambigous and there isneed for more samples. Ambigous? A band thatsounds like old Loudness and Earthshaker and have even played with them on a heavy metal festival: I understand, that you want to double check, but i that case, you could inform me, ttthat I can suggest placing the band in the thread for possibly acceptable bands and not let me wait a whole month. Another case, the Czech band Ckb. It was rejected for not being metal. Really, tha band has an avantgarde approach, but not more tha the NorNorwegian band Virus, for example and most of their songs are based on real metal riffs, even if they are a tad psychedelic in natureIt is true, that the first three songs on Bandzone are not metal, but I submitted them on the merit of their 2015 album, which is available ccompletely on bandzone for listening, I feel a strong similarity to Angl Rat era Voivod, and the sythscertainly take away the metalness form the guitarsoound. It is certainly not djent, post-hardcore or anything that can be mistaken for progressive metal: http://bandzone.cz/ckb. I is true, that the first three songs on Bandzone are not metal, but I submitted them on the merit of their 2015 album and the songs are not on it. http://bandzone.cz/ckb Another case the band Knights OfThe Remnant: T
To me , acceptable heavy metal with hard touch, all the songs on Reverbnation have metal riffing in the style of Metallica or Black Label Society, except the last one. The style of the and is at least as heavy as Dokken in their heavy metal period or comparable bands like Holy Soldier on their first album: https://www.reverbnation.com/knightsoftheremnant The last case is the band The Motowns, I would underrstand, if it would be rejected for having only one smaple song, but the statement, that the band plays hard rorock is a bit of a stretch, since the song is ¨quite epic heavy metal in the tration of early Gama bands like High Tension, Gravestone, Midnight Darkness, Veto, Gravestone and Stormwitch, I wwould beg and suggest its placement in the possible inclusion thread. Now, if You allow me a personal remark, it had fears, how my submissions would be treated after such a long time. and I was at least partially right. Please understand, that I do not want a total exemptionfor my submission. What I would like is mutual understanding andmore trust from the site staff, regarding my past contribution to the site and my current personal time of toubles. On the other hadn, tI have to thank all mods, who add albums to my submissions and for the acceptance of such rare bands as Crossfade with the little info I provided. I just tthink, that you are needlessly strict in cases, where you do not havetoo, while other cases from comparable genres of metal go through the net without bigger problems -for exanple, the German "heavy metal" aor band The Wizard. aperhaps the traditional heavy metal is not a preffered genre among the new moderators and the have different standards, than I had, when I was a part of the site staff, but still I feel a bit embittered, when I see death/black bands being accepted almost instantly, when tratraditional metal bands are exposed to such ordeal. Thanks. . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8DQcoiAnRI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zksQC5AAAQk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heb8h-GhsJc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVmkWlgGKHQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q78ueswH6Hk S-Rave: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nWdb9RtTek I would also to stress out, that movement through forums is rather complicated for me due to my current situation, so please take also that into accont and also excuse the many typos I made.

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flippyinvader
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:45 pm 
 

In terms of the band "kittie" you know they stopped being nu metal and went into heavier genres right?

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wookey
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2018 9:33 pm 
 

Hi all. I've used this resource for years, so top marks to all for maintaining it. I noticed that Exit Eden was missing so finally got round to signing up for the purpose of helping out from time to time. On submission, it turns out that they are blacklisted (kudos for the time-saving 'this is blacklisted already' feature!).

Apologies that my first post is on this contentious thread.

It would be useful to record what the reasoning was. I guess it was 'not metal enough' as they are clearly a borderline case given this site's criteria (I hadn't realised till today that some stuff I think of as pretty solidly metal isn't here, such as the krautrockers: Rammstein/Megaherz/ Stahlmann/Eisbrecher).

Anyway to the point: Whilst I agree that Exit Eden's heavy arrangements of deliberately pop songs are only somewhat metal, you do have all the members' main bands here: (Trillium, Visions of Atlantis, Phantom Elite), so on that basis I thought it would be deemed at least a relevant side-project (of Amanda Somerville, Clementine Delauney and Marina La Torraca)? I do think it's an interesting, and quite innovative, concept: 4 (very good, contrasting) female vocalists doing metal arrangements of pop songs, (with the hired help not even getting a namecheck!). A note on why this 'side-project of definitely-metal artists' reasoning isn't sufficient would be helpful to those who come after (I don't suppose I'll be the last).

I understand that you have to draw lines somewhere, but ask here so that at least there is an entry people can search for to find out the thinking.

Presumably if they did another album, perhaps with some original material you would re-assess?

Anyway thanks again for your sterling work on this resource - it does have almost all the bands I listen to :-)

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^ no
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blyoung
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 2:41 am 
 

Why is Satans Taint not listed? It's Bobby Gustafson's band (ex-Overkill), and when I click on his profile, I can see the band listed, but it's not clickable.

There have been 2 releases:

1) "Songs for the Einherjer" (2015, ep) - a digital-only release that was put out in 2015 but is no longer available for sale.
https://www.sinisterguitarpicks.com/sin ... ans-taint/
https://www.amazon.com/Songs-Einherjar- ... B00U2TE302

2) "Axe to the Head of My Enemies" (2017, full-length) - contains 5 new songs, and remastered versions of the previous ep (with a new guitar solo added to one song from the prior ep).
https://www.discogs.com/Satans-Taint-Ax ... e/10266863
https://www.facebook.com/13933660475995 ... =3&theater

I have the cd in hand, so if it's a matter of providing sound samples to prove that this music is indeed metal, that can be arranged.

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blyoung
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 2:43 am 
 

Satans Taint - here's another link for the 2017 album.

http://bravewords.com/news/original-ove ... -streaming

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blyoung
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 2:50 am 
 

Satans Taint - 2015 ep

Just found streamable audio samples of the 2015 ep.

http://zk.fm/artist/944847

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 8:54 am 
 

wookey wrote:
Hi all. I've used this resource for years, so top marks to all for maintaining it. I noticed that Exit Eden was missing so finally got round to signing up for the purpose of helping out from time to time. On submission, it turns out that they are blacklisted (kudos for the time-saving 'this is blacklisted already' feature!).

Apologies that my first post is on this contentious thread.

It would be useful to record what the reasoning was. I guess it was 'not metal enough' as they are clearly a borderline case given this site's criteria (I hadn't realised till today that some stuff I think of as pretty solidly metal isn't here, such as the krautrockers: Rammstein/Megaherz/ Stahlmann/Eisbrecher).

Anyway to the point: Whilst I agree that Exit Eden's heavy arrangements of deliberately pop songs are only somewhat metal, you do have all the members' main bands here: (Trillium, Visions of Atlantis, Phantom Elite), so on that basis I thought it would be deemed at least a relevant side-project (of Amanda Somerville, Clementine Delauney and Marina La Torraca)? I do think it's an interesting, and quite innovative, concept: 4 (very good, contrasting) female vocalists doing metal arrangements of pop songs, (with the hired help not even getting a namecheck!). A note on why this 'side-project of definitely-metal artists' reasoning isn't sufficient would be helpful to those who come after (I don't suppose I'll be the last).

I understand that you have to draw lines somewhere, but ask here so that at least there is an entry people can search for to find out the thinking.

Presumably if they did another album, perhaps with some original material you would re-assess?

Anyway thanks again for your sterling work on this resource - it does have almost all the bands I listen to :-)


Blacklisted for being a cover band. They need to have original material. Read the guidelines.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:24 am 
 

blyoung wrote:
Why is Satans Taint not listed? It's Bobby Gustafson's band (ex-Overkill), and when I click on his profile, I can see the band listed, but it's not clickable.

There have been 2 releases:

1) "Songs for the Einherjer" (2015, ep) - a digital-only release that was put out in 2015 but is no longer available for sale.
https://www.sinisterguitarpicks.com/sin ... ans-taint/
https://www.amazon.com/Songs-Einherjar- ... B00U2TE302

2) "Axe to the Head of My Enemies" (2017, full-length) - contains 5 new songs, and remastered versions of the previous ep (with a new guitar solo added to one song from the prior ep).
https://www.discogs.com/Satans-Taint-Ax ... e/10266863
https://www.facebook.com/13933660475995 ... =3&theater

I have the cd in hand, so if it's a matter of providing sound samples to prove that this music is indeed metal, that can be arranged.

Not blacklisted, so if you think they qualify, feel free to make a submission.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 18, 2018 12:18 pm 
 

Azmodes wrote:
EzraBlumenfeld wrote:
I'd also like to repeal the Close the Hatch blacklisting with this release: https://closethehatch.bandcamp.com/album/vi

I'll check it out later.

Whitelisted.

Wargnattallfihrr wrote:
Hi guys,

I'm commenting on two rejeceted band submissions of mine - I dug up some more listening material in one case and additional proof of existence in the other case:

EvilZ (Chn) (submission rejected on Dec. 2nd, 2017)
In addition to the already provided discogs link (https://www.discogs.com/de/EvilZ-Abaddon/master/872883), here's the info on duoban for both versions of the demo:
https://music.douban.com/subject/3670293/
https://music.douban.com/subject/3450947/
There's also this last.fm link, but I don't know if there are more samples behind it: https://www.last.fm/music/EvilZ/Abaddon
And, as a final thing, this chinese streaming site: http://www.xiami.com/artist/cxAL28821?s ... 3.9.zA02W1

Now about Robert Rodrigo (Esp) (submission rejected Mar. 8th, 2018):
You asked about a way to listen to 'Wrath' in full, so I dug up some more:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007P ... B007PMBHQ2
https://itunes.apple.com/bz/album/wrath/524147095

Maybe you can work with that - thanks for your time.

Include those links in the draft and resubmit.

kuropiece wrote:
Hello! I noticed the band i was trying to add (Silver Dust) was blacklisted, i get that it was my mistake to forget to provide proofs of the releases and music samples so here they are:


Releases:

https://itunes.apple.com/ch/album/the-age-of-decadence/id1086974205?l=fr (Itunes)

https://musique.fnac.com/a10747610/Silver-Dust-The-Age-Of-Decadence-CD-album (Fnac, it's a physical copy but unfortunately they don't have it in stock at my local mall at the moment, so i can't take a picture of it, i hope the links will be enough)

Music samples:

So Let Me Now: (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6niTuuKhr0)
Heaven Knows: (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpnQnGhWuJc)

Some tracks can also be listened to in the Itunes link i provided above.

They were judged to be a goth rock band in the vein of HIM.

mediocridad wrote:
"Sorry mediocridad, Encyclopaedia Metallum was forced to reject your submission for the band Caustic Wound (United States), for the following reason:

The Storeenvy link is dead. Do you have any other proof of release?"

Here: http://headsplitrecords.storenvy.com/pr ... -wound-s-t

Resubmit.

Xenotath wrote:
Hello,
I recently tryed to upload the band Strion (ita), but it was rejected, i don't know why evry time i put in the comment for moderators(in the first page of the upload) with the link with all the files (audio and jpg) but evry time they reject my bands, i need to write to this thread and finally they accept my bands,why they don't ceck it beafore reject?
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id= ... kUSwYndMKH
Here is the link with all the stuff, cds are home printed but cdr are really wrll done,not a sticker on it but in some ways printed in the plastic.
Thanks,S.

This requires some proof of distribution. How many copies? How is it being sold? Can you link to anything confirming that this is a public release?

Shadechaser wrote:
Hi! Can I know when and why was Italian band "Rome in Monochrome" blacklisted?
As for me their last album is doom (post-)metal.

eh, still sounds dominated by soft post-rock and similar.

MutantClannfear wrote:
Diamhea wrote:
Sludgy hardcore, blacklisted in December, 2016. Regarding your last crop of links, we really don't value third-party opinions like that, especially when there are song samples available for listening.

The new release is from March 2018, perhaps re-evaluate?

Whitelisted.

Emberglance wrote:
Hello guys, I just received notice that my submission of Au Revoir (United States) and their album Veles has been rejected. I have read the rules but unless I ACCIDENTLY missed it, post-metal is an accepted genre, is it not? Though the band is crossover with post-rock and post-hardcore moments, 70% of their music is in fact post-metal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCWMACqTse4

https://aurevoirit.bandcamp.com/track/deluge

The moderator who rejected it disagrees. More post-rock than metal.

Witcher wrote:
Hello, I have to ask again. This time, it wil be rather serious. When I returned to the site, with a handicap I did not want mention, bu now I have to ů-OI am nnow completely sightless, I aasked myself many questions: Will my old account work,? How will I be treated? How will my submissions treated without my old mod status.: Will I get undestanding for the possible incompletion of my submissions, caused by my current handicap and the fact, that I am submitting rare nad local bands, preferably from the classic and power metal genre. And my feelings are mixed, I did not worry after one rejection, and after the moderator ----------------------aznodas contacted me and ws very polite and friendly, ny hopes were high. But now I have a feeling, that many of my worries have come true. After my rejoicing, tthat I found the proof of physical rlease for the band S- Rave, that band was rjected today with the reasoning, that the sample sounds ambigous and there isneed for more samples. Ambigous?

IIRC, it was heavy metal/hard rock that was probably fine, but the crucial part was that the sample wasn't present on any of the releases and was just a single song.

Witcher wrote:
A band thatsounds like old Loudness and Earthshaker and have even played with them on a heavy metal festival: I understand, that you want to double check, but i that case, you could inform me, ttthat I can suggest placing the band in the thread for possibly acceptable bands and not let me wait a whole month.

This is a hobby for all involved, as you well know. Some submissions are dealt with faster than others. It's actually a telling sign that yours linger for a while; they are often ambiguous and dodgy in one way or another, sorry. The problem is usually that the proof of release is unclear or the sampling too slim and unrepresentative. Nobody really wants to deal with them. I can't begin to imagine how difficult your condition must be for you and it's admirable that you are nevertheless still trying to contribute, but the fact remains that a lot of those submissions are simply lacking.

Witcher wrote:
Another case, the Czech band Ckb. It was rejected for not being metal. Really, tha band has an avantgarde approach, but not more tha the NorNorwegian band Virus, for example and most of their songs are based on real metal riffs, even if they are a tad psychedelic in natureIt is true, that the first three songs on Bandzone are not metal, but I submitted them on the merit of their 2015 album, which is available ccompletely on bandzone for listening, I feel a strong similarity to Angl Rat era Voivod, and the sythscertainly take away the metalness form the guitarsoound. It is certainly not djent, post-hardcore or anything that can be mistaken for progressive metal: http://bandzone.cz/ckb. I is true, that the first three songs on Bandzone are not metal, but I submitted them on the merit of their 2015 album and the songs are not on it. http://bandzone.cz/ckb Another case the band Knights OfThe Remnant: T
To me , acceptable heavy metal with hard touch, all the songs on Reverbnation have metal riffing in the style of Metallica or Black Label Society, except the last one. The style of the and is at least as heavy as Dokken in their heavy metal period or comparable bands like Holy Soldier on their first album: https://www.reverbnation.com/knightsoftheremnant The last case is the band The Motowns, I would underrstand, if it would be rejected for having only one smaple song, but the statement, that the band plays hard rorock is a bit of a stretch, since the song is ¨quite epic heavy metal in the tration of early Gama bands like High Tension, Gravestone, Midnight Darkness, Veto, Gravestone and Stormwitch, I wwould beg and suggest its placement in the possible inclusion thread. Now, if You allow me a personal remark, it had fears, how my submissions would be treated after such a long time. and I was at least partially right. Please understand, that I do not want a total exemptionfor my submission. What I would like is mutual understanding andmore trust from the site staff, regarding my past contribution to the site and my current personal time of toubles. On the other hadn, tI have to thank all mods, who add albums to my submissions and for the acceptance of such rare bands as Crossfade with the little info I provided. I just tthink, that you are needlessly strict in cases, where you do not havetoo, while other cases from comparable genres of metal go through the net without bigger problems -for exanple, the German "heavy metal" aor band The Wizard. aperhaps the traditional heavy metal is not a preffered genre among the new moderators and the have different standards, than I had, when I was a part of the site staff, but still I feel a bit embittered, when I see death/black bands being accepted almost instantly, when tratraditional metal bands are exposed to such ordeal. Thanks. . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8DQcoiAnRI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zksQC5AAAQk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heb8h-GhsJc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVmkWlgGKHQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q78ueswH6Hk S-Rave: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nWdb9RtTek I would also to stress out, that movement through forums is rather complicated for me due to my current situation, so please take also that into accont and also excuse the many typos I made.

I don't really know what to tell you, other than (again, as you should know) music is subjective and there's bound to be disagreement for the outliers, even between individual mods. I hope you aren't going to bring up every single borderline rejection in this thread. Our rules haven't changed, though, as you mention, I would agree that our standards on what constitutes valid proof of release etc. are higher nowadays and we're more thorough during the evaluation process. There's no nice way of putting this, but from the 2007/2008 period especially there were a lot of bands that have turned out to be very much not metal or simply missing releases (and a lot more no doubt remain to clean up), so I'd say we have improved in that regard.

As for these bands you mentioned, I can however have a listen and share my thoughts later.
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