The mod had to blacklist them because you kept resubmitting the band without proof for a valid release.

The submission for the band Ravaged Spleen Outburst (Serbia) was rejected because it was too short to qualify as a valid digital only submission (it's an ep that clocks in at 10:20).

The rejection mail says: "Please wait for the band to releases something more substantial or until the band releases something on a physical format."

So my question is, would proof of a physical release be enough to get it in the archives? Also, do the mods check if they consider it metal before it got rejected because it's not a valid release? Thanks in advance.

I shot the user who asked about them initially a pm asking him to submit the band, but he's not responding. Not sure how active he is around here. So I'm submitting it myself.

Yes, if there's a physical release resubmit with that information. As to your other question, depends on the mod. I typically do not.

We had a very similar discussion on Discord a few days ago

I have whitelisted The Crotals for further reevaluation.

The album got released today via Worship Tapes:

https://www.facebook.com/worshiptapes/p ... 8481585415

Mods,

Here is proof of Starved's physical cassette release: http://depressiveillusions.com/items/ta ... ed-starved

Regards.

Whitelisted.


The band is blacklisted for being predominantly noise, not because of release issues.

Arcsin
Would it be at all possible to re-consider this submission?
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Arcsin/3540432787
http://arcsinband.bandcamp.com/
It was rejected solely based on length (16:22) and I didn't bring it up then because rules were a little stricter concerning digital releases.

Norđ
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Nor ... 3540424614
Also, I'm very interested in knowing what Azmodes, Helvede and Zodi wrote down whilst assessing the band. The rejection came from EC eventually, so if it's not too much trouble, could you let me in on the other verdicts? Thanks.

Just going through some old submissions.

Go ahead.



We can have another look. For some reason it's not blacklisted anyway, so go ahead and resubmit.

Will do, Az. Cheers, man.

RE: HOMEWRECKER [Ashtabula, OH, USA]

Would like to see removal of Homewrecker from blacklist, while earlier releases were ratio Hardcore>metal, have moved in progressed to Death Metal/Crossover with new album "Hell Is Here Now" released April 2018. Please listen to new album album for chnage https://goodfightmusic.bandcamp.com/album/hell-is-here-now

Multiple reviews on change in vein music now:
http://www.metalinjection.net/reviews/homewrecker-hell-is-here-now
https://newnoisemagazine.com/review-homewrecker-hell-here-now/
http://www.heavyblogisheavy.com/2018/04/19/homewrecker-hell-now/

"[Hell Is Here Now] updates its list of influences to include Devourment and sometimes even Dying Fetus. A natural fit for the band, as they may have been steering away from their hardcore roots for quite some time, they continue to trace the same ethos that got them here today through a fresher death metal lens...members’ angular attack they range from the raspiest thrash metal vocals to visceral old school death metal vocals like Autopsy and Unleashed. Homewrecker could write a clinic on old school harsh vocal styles in metal. "

A bit surprising there : D Whitelisted. Please submit when you're able.

"Autophagy" (United States) has been blackliste but http://headsplitrecords.storenvy.com/pr ... phagy-demo

Blacklisted for having no valid release. Whitelisted.

HI, tried to upload a the band "Total Collapse" from Bulguaria, the reason why it was rejected was because you asked for a pic of the physical copy (wich i added as band pic). I have no way to show where it was sold to probe it was real because of two reasons:

1.- They ran out of copies and the band passed away in 2016.
2.- It was a free giveawaydemo, therefore, there was no one selling it.

I hope this is enough info, if not let me know please.

Link: https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/To ... 3540444070

I know Agnostic Front has been evaluated off their 1986 album, Cause for Alarm. But has anyone checked out their following album, Liberty & Justice For...? I can see where there may be a blurred line like CfA, but I figured it'd be worth mentioning for evaluation.
https://youtu.be/cylVaAJxOZ8

Ten Onder (The Netherlands) is blacklisted, presumably due to release issues. The band's sole output is a single 16-minute song. However, with the new digital release rules, they may warrant reevaluation. https://tenonder.bandcamp.com/

Can Godsfarm (https://www.facebook.com/GodsfarmOfficial/) be whitelisted per the new digital release rules? They have released two ⁓10-minute EPs and quite a number of singles, all available for purchase/download, so they may be eligible for acceptance now.

With the new rules in mind, I'd also bring up Slam Assault (Spain) for re-evaluation.
https://slamxassaultx.bandcamp.com/albu ... ve-torture

Feel free to resubmit.


We did judge the last two albums, with most people leaning towards "Cause for Alarm" being the more worthy album for consideration. Unfortunately it was pretty divisive, with some mods leaning yes, and a similar amount leaning no. I think the general sentiment was that it is crossover, certainly, but crossing over from a punk foundation, with a punk attitude, into metal.


Whitelisted. That said, I'm still a bit hesitant about the release being acceptable... however, I'll leave it up to the team to decide if this is worthy or not.


It was blacklisted primarily for being "weird -core." Do you have samples we could listen to in order to confirm whether that's the case or not?


Whitelisted.

I certainly do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mgdqp-q8K7s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjQOZTXtGBQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CO6gsWn-2A

Hi,

with the new digital release rules, so I bring them up for re-evaluation. They also have free physical demo.
https://www.facebook.com/Dirtchurch666/ ... 0883742717

^^ whitelisted ED

Thanks!

Whitelisted.

S.E.K.H. has been blacklisted for not being metal enough with the following message.

"We have judged the band's current releases with the evidence you've provided and found that none of the band's albums are predominantly heavy metal, according to our rules.

This is mostly ambient/noise."

I'm afraid admin has not even reached minute 06:00 for the only S.E.K.H release available: http://sekh.bandcamp.com/releases
If this part (from 06:00 until the end) is not clearly black metal, I don't know what it is.

Regards.

Nyrst from Iceland...That band deserves to be in the archives...Released killer demo (16 minutes) in a studio that has more quality than some bedroom projects full lengths.
They just deserve to be part of this, who knows, maybe they'll never release something else.

https://nyrst.bandcamp.com/album/demo

I didn't reject it, but it does sound mostly like blackened noise. Rest assured that we always try to listen to the entire material.


Whitelisted.

(I'm editing this message)
Hello there, I just wanted to submit "Anal Vomitation" from Brazil but as it was expected it has been rejected, I will go straight to the neck, the band was rejected because "it's not a metal band"... You got Biological Monstrosity, Al Goregrind, Aborted Hitler Cock and an infinitude of other goregrind bands that are practicaly the same.. Plus, Anal Vomitation played with Gutalax, I'll be more clear because no matter what you won't add the band for the things I saw here, if you simply do not want to allow a band put in your "rules" "If the band is a horsecock piece of shit, worse than Lacuna Coil which is actually submitted, we won't add no band mate xd" It's better than put some shit like "it's nit i mitil bind" .No offense, seriously.

Good day

There is grind with a metal basis in their riffing and there is even more grind with a hardcore-based riffing. The first one is acceptable, the latter one isn't.
For Anal Vomitation, 2 mods agreed that it doesn't have a release that is predominantly metal. There are hardcore and metal influences, sure, but it isn't quite enough metal to be acceptable at this point.

If I add the complete AxVx album could be accepted? The vocalist didn't text to me yet to have all the information. But is really acceptable to be here, and yeah.. The split is obviously not enough I see, do not blacklist this band.

I relistened to the split, still sounds more punk- than metal-based. If the band has some other releases that sound significantly different, post them here. Otherwise, sorry, not acceptable.


Why would we do that? We don't judge bands based on personal preference or perceived musical merit. It's about whether it's based in metal riffs. That's inevitably subjective, but you are going to have to respect our decision here.

"Why would we do that? We don't judge bands based on personal preference or perceived musical merit. It's about whether it's based in metal riffs. That's inevitably subjective, but you are going to have to respect our decision"

"it's based in metal riffs [...]" Punk bands are added, search other bands like Underoath.. is on Metallum, Lacuna Coil is on metallum, buuuut Agnostic Front, Methadone Abortion Clinic (which are blacklisted) are not added on Metallum, what a inevitably subjective way of submission, the full AxVx disc will be published these night, I'll re-submit the band after it's on youtube anyway.

That's because a band only needs 1 metal album to be acceptable. If they changed drastically afterwards or were different earlier, that doesn't really matter to us as a database.

SjelMetal... Hmm, it's best that you view MA as an archive of "metal albums" and less an archive of "metal bands." While most bands that have metal albums are widely known as metal bands, there are cases where bands more widely known for their punk or rock music end up making metal albums. We will include those bands, because they made a metal album.

The "album" aspect is also pretty important. A band that has a bunch of metal songs spread out across multiple albums that are mostly non-metal won't be included, because in those cases there isn't a single album that's unquestionably, predominantly metal. With the exception of a few rare non-metal projects we include for historical reasons, only in those cases where a band makes a metal album that's comprised primarily of metal music will we accept them here. So, for the examples you've listed, the bands that were accepted had metal albums, the bands that were rejected do not.

You can try to fight us on this, but we know what is and isn't acceptable for our site. Our definition of what is and isn't metal is subjective, sure, in that we rely on "metal riffs" as the defining quality of what makes a sound metal, but our application of that definition is fair and consistent. There's no personal grudges held against bands, or any favoritism towards one band or another... Frankly, and I speak for myself but it's probably true for other mods too, I don't really care about the vast majority of bands that get accepted. I don't care if their music is awful. I don't care if they cause drama in their scene. I don't care if they played in a festival with a shitty rock band. All I care about is whether they made a metal album, as far as the way we define what's metal and determine what's a valid album.

Well I can say with the most true and inspirative whispers that all you say does not make sense with the way you moderate, you should check the newest albums from Agnostic Front so... Metal riffs you can found there, there is also de Funk project from the Suicidal Tendencies' members.. Frankly try to read again your quotes because with your logic Slipknot may be here (No, I'm not starting a repeatedly debate) Suicide Silence too (Again I'M not complaining about these bands) So. If you can't find metal riffs and good arrangements on those mainstream bands I'm not surprised if you were thinking twice before adding bands like Uaral, Hypothermia, Shining, Life Is Pain, and I could be type here all day long.

The band Ahrdua was rejected with the slightyly surprising message, that I sould wait for more material or a physical release. Well, the band has two albums, one in 2011 and the second one in 2016, both relased on CD and also availabele digitally on Amazon and Itunes. Can I resubmit now: Proofs: https://firestreamvault.com/profile.php ... oom&show=A
https://www.facebook.com/18419508832858 ... 747055080/
https://www.amazon.com/Meu-Louvor-Ahrdua/dp/B079ZL98ZJ
https://www.amazon.com/Al%C3%A9m-Dos-Li ... B079ZW86R2

Where's the evidence they have a physical release? A band saying they have a name for a CD in a Facebook post doesn't mean it's an actual CD, especially consider how ubiquitous the term CD has become for just meaning "album" generally. For proof of a physical release, we would prefer photographic evidence of the CD itself, ideally in multiple, and evidence that it was being distributed. As far as whether it's acceptable based on its digital proof, we wouldn't consider a release whose album art is simply a collage of band photos to qualify as meeting our standards pertaining to seriousness for digital-only acceptance.