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Antioch
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 11:05 am 
 

What did I do to lose 2000 pts? I'm confused.
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Emptiness Cycle
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 11:07 am 
 

Antioch wrote:
What did I do to lose 2000 pts? I'm confused.


Check your inbox.

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Antioch
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 11:08 am 
 

There's nothing in my inbox, EC.

EDIT: Got it.
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Emptiness Cycle
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 11:12 am 
 

Just sent it now.

EDIT : This has now been resolved.

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aloof
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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2017 10:17 pm 
 

possibly well-meaning 16 year old newb, some dubious edits and a definite guesswork lineup (candlemass): http://www.metal-archives.com/users/brankonan (I removed the lineup, judging by the cover MM was the singer, but... that's a guess)
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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 7:58 am 
 

aloof wrote:
possibly well-meaning 16 year old newb, some dubious edits and a definite guesswork lineup (candlemass): http://www.metal-archives.com/users/brankonan (I removed the lineup, judging by the cover MM was the singer, but... that's a guess)


This user is too stupid to have any degree of responsibility. He continually flags reports for images with broken link redirects, and despite several reminders by myself and (I think) others, he continues to do it. I was actually going to request a ban if he starts pushing his idiocy in more serious directions, as appears to be the case here.

I mean, this is the level of dumb we are dealing with here:

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aloof
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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 10:08 am 
 

lol. I remember seeing at least a coupla reports with this image location, as well... you're 16 only once :D
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~Guest 368187
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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 8:17 pm 
 

Diamhea wrote:
I mean, this is the level of dumb we are dealing with here:

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From the few of his reports I've dealt with (maybe 1 or 2? idk) he didn't seem like that much of an idiot, but holy shit, wow.

Storm of the Light's Bane wrote:
http://www.metal-archives.com/users/NATHICANADEGE

Adding a bunch of pointless bandcamp links to specific albums even if the page has a bandcamp link already.

Also, still adding those (for the most part) pointless "Bandcamp* 2017" links.

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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 8:47 pm 
 

Critical warning sent. Undo all edits and let me know if she does it again.
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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2017 11:35 am 
 

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Dembo wrote:
Two things are very interesting here.
1. The amount of words put in my mouth by several people. For example, I've not said that the person is a newcomer or that the site can force anyone to contribute in any way. Rather I'm pointing out that moderators have a history of expressing that such an edit is not contributing at all. And what's a wrongdoing if not a non-contributing edit?
2. The difference in reaction from time to time regarding the exact same thing.

Here a person was notified for doing what I reported above:
viewtopic.php?p=2561890#p2561890

And it was done after I reminded people about the unanimous moderator view in the same thread I linked to above:
viewtopic.php?p=2561742#p2561742

Purely from a policy-perspective, inconsistency is highly problematic.
Going by what some have said above, are we encouraged to report this wrongdoing only if it's by a person who's new to the site? Or also veterans but who do no other update while doing that type of edit? Then what about newcomers who do that edit while doing other edits? Or is it a wrongdoing no matter who do it and in what circumstance?

This is about saving the time and effort of both people doing those edits and people reporting it here.

The site hardly need more vagueness in its policies to be honest. And since I've never see a notification like "hey [user], don't bother editing track lengths to change a few seconds, as different players will display different lengths for one and the same version of a release and others will just edit them back due to their players showing slightly different lengths" as something serious, I really don't see why this need to have several posts this time despite the history of mods telling people not to bother doing those type of edits.

Sometimes this place is like a tombola regarding the different reactions essentially the same post will get from one time to another. That's problematic for any project with policies.

EDIT:
A completely different thing I stumbled upon when linking.

Defreasis wrote:
Not really point-whoring, but is this annoying?
http://www.metal-archives.com/users/Paw
He always adds useless links like @Prog Archives, @Last.fm, @Wikipedia, @musik-sammler.de although given in unofficial tab is correct.
It looks like spamming. I'm afraid he will soon add links of Metalkingdom.net and Spirit-of-Metal too.

Is Prog Archives in the same category as Last.fm, Wikipedia, and such? From my experience, Prog Archives have tons of info like extensive bio, detailed discography with tons of ratings and reviews, links to forum discussions about the band in question, links to Amazon products of the band, streaming of music, tour updates... And I believe I've added a couple of such links myself. Example: http://progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=378

By "category" I mean that it's most often useless, not category as "unofficial", since it's clearly belong in the unofficial section if belonging here at all.


I suggest you stop making critical posts like this if you are simply going to ignore the responses we give you. I've noticed this trend, and it's tiring.
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Leave a steaming, stinking Rotting Repulsive Rotting Corpse = LIVE YOUNG - DIE FREE and move on to the NEXT form of yourself....or just be a fat Wal-Mart Mcdonalds pc of shit what do I give a fuck what you do.

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aloof
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PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2017 2:36 pm 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/users/PetrosTser adds new members to band lineups, but can't remove those they replace because of his rank, and won't flag reports for someone else to.

examples are Tarja: http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Tarja/110710 two live drummers, plus Terrana in the lineup

and http://www.metal-archives.com/report/view/id/602042 :/

he probably means well, but it ends up with band pages looking at least confusing...
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Dembo
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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2017 5:34 pm 
 

Diamhea wrote:
I suggest you stop making critical posts like this if you are simply going to ignore the responses we give you. I've noticed this trend, and it's tiring.

I fail to see the point of bringing up that a week after my last post on that subject and five days since anyone's last post on it. Is Derigin's response what you consider I have ignored? I didn't ignore it. But since it partly cleared up stuff and partly missed my point, and partly because several days had already past when he wrote that and even more days had past when I read it, I didn't see any reason to continue that discussion. But I did actually like most of his post.

I thought moderators preferred discussions to not go on for longer than necessary, especially in threads dealing with more than one discussion, such as this one. So I left it after his reply. Sure, I could write something short like "Okey.", but that would probably come off as passive-aggressive rather than just leave a discussion when it's considered done. And had I replied adressing some of the content of his post, I would have come across as not accepting what he was saying, even though I was since I didn't consider it important enough to drag out that discussion even longer, and since I at my original post expected it to be a one-post-thing like the vast majority of my posts in this thread.

Then again, friends have sometimes complained that I don't reply to text messages where my reply would have been something like "okey", so maybe I should consider that if not wanting to come off as ignoring replies.

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cepit
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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2017 10:00 pm 
 

http://www.metal-archives.com/users/Gasaft
Metalhead added upcoming album of Rings of Saturn with no complete release date and incorrect title.
Got it from here http://www.metal-archives.com/report/vi ... 5/show/all
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joecubbie
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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2017 10:44 pm 
 

I'm curious as to which band I submitted to warrant losing about 250 points. I'm not making a case to get them back. I respect the decision of the mods. I'm just wondering what was the straw that broke the camel's back.

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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2017 6:19 am 
 

cepit wrote:
http://www.metal-archives.com/users/Gasaft
Metalhead added upcoming album of Rings of Saturn with no complete release date and incorrect title.
Got it from here http://www.metal-archives.com/report/vi ... 5/show/all


Not the first time he has done that, either. Overall his edits are sloppy as hell. I recommend a ban.
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TvvrAskesis
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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2017 10:27 am 
 

Anyone feel like informing this guy on how to properly make edits to the site? He's making a mess, and adds make-up artists, promoters, A&R managers and so.
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~Guest 368187
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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2017 7:18 pm 
 

Diamhea wrote:
Critical warning sent. Undo all edits and let me know if she does it again.

She is still doing it.

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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2017 9:43 am 
 

Final warning sent and points removed. One more time and she is gone.
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aloof
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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2017 11:49 am 
 

just a regular user, adding bogus birth dates and creative bios: http://www.metal-archives.com/users/Poopscoop
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cepit
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PostPosted: Sat May 20, 2017 7:50 pm 
 

aloof wrote:
just a regular user, adding bogus birth dates and creative bios: http://www.metal-archives.com/users/Poopscoop

Also added activity period on Avenge Thee: 1969-present
http://www.metal-archives.com/history/v ... /id/119594
Has there been Thrash/Groove Metal since that year? Lol
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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2017 11:42 am 
 

Critical warning sent. Looks like clear vandalism to me.

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cepit
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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2017 1:18 am 
 

This album was added in May 1st as upcoming album without complete release date.
http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Mi ... ies/647779
Actual release date is May 19th.
https://mobile.facebook.com/story.php?s ... 2189474146
I have completed the album data correctly.
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aloof
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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2017 10:44 am 
 

guesswork extravaganza: I added a band on the archives, https://www.metal-archives.com/users/Ziotopanga added a guitar player with the same name to it: https://www.metal-archives.com/report/view/id/603163

https://www.metal-archives.com/users/kelchenu added the band's hometown as city of origin to the band members.
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Emptiness Cycle
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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2017 10:56 am 
 

aloof wrote:
guesswork extravaganza: I added a band on the archives, https://www.metal-archives.com/users/Ziotopanga added a guitar player with the same name to it: https://www.metal-archives.com/report/view/id/603163

https://www.metal-archives.com/users/kelchenu added the band's hometown as city of origin to the band members.


I sent kelchenu a warning yesterday for adding a bands country based on the label's location on Bandcamp.

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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2017 5:33 pm 
 

https://www.metal-archives.com/users/ShadowSouthWarrior

Adds lyrics 1 by 1.

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MetalCuresHeadaches
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PostPosted: Tue May 23, 2017 8:53 pm 
 

Emptiness Cycle wrote:
aloof wrote:
guesswork extravaganza: I added a band on the archives, https://www.metal-archives.com/users/Ziotopanga added a guitar player with the same name to it: https://www.metal-archives.com/report/view/id/603163

https://www.metal-archives.com/users/kelchenu added the band's hometown as city of origin to the band members.


I sent kelchenu a warning yesterday for adding a bands country based on the label's location on Bandcamp.


I assume that warning was in reference to Holocauste? It was Unknown, but now it's listed as Canada, based off a report kelchenu submitted with the label's location as a source.
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Emptiness Cycle
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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2017 4:29 am 
 

Originally yes - and he admitted by email that he got it from the bandcamp label tags, which are not enough. I later added it to Canada as I was able to verify it myself. He was correct, but at the time that couldn't have been determined as it was pure guesswork.

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Midnight Rider
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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2017 6:00 am 
 

User Mbopy seems clueless about the correct use of biography & trivia for artists / adding activity period for bands.

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EpicDismemberment
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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2017 8:58 am 
 

Emptiness Cycle wrote:
I later added it to Canada as I was able to verify it myself.


How? Just for my own education. When I encounter an obscure band like this, so I will be able to verify it.

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Emptiness Cycle
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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2017 9:52 am 
 

EpicDismemberment wrote:
Emptiness Cycle wrote:
I later added it to Canada as I was able to verify it myself.


How? Just for my own education. When I encounter an obscure band like this, so I will be able to verify it.


It's quite easy - simply email the label and ask. If you're connected in the scene, you'll know someone that can put you in contact. I can always try to help with anything like this in future.

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EpicDismemberment
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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2017 10:12 am 
 

Thanks man.

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Emptiness Cycle
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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2017 10:35 am 
 

EpicDismemberment wrote:
Thanks man.


Anytime!

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Antioch
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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2017 6:58 pm 
 

aloof wrote:
this guy makes his own covers for releases that lack one: http://www.metal-archives.com/users/tony29 I'm serious. dunno if I wanna slap him senseless or bake him a cake.

edit: if you go real back in his history, he did logos as well. incroyable!

Someone still needs to clean up the shit this guy left behind. Just removed a logo he added here:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Gallow/43438
He'd added this: http://www.theaudiodb.com/artist/125381 Gallow"S". Fucker!
Anyway, if someone has the time, please clean it all up.
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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2017 7:18 pm 
 

I'll systematically nuke all his logo uploads if they can't be easily verified. Seems he uploaded images for generic band names that could be from who knows where (one for an US band was actually used in connection with a Swedish one, some are just outright wrong spellings, etc.), no point wasting time with his bullshit. I'll check the other edits as well.

EDIT: It looks like he created multiple logos with the same generic font... Unbelievable.

EDIT2: Okay, this is tedious. I've asked HellBlazer if he could mass-delete all the images this moron added. As for the bullshit releases he added, all gone now.
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Antioch
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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2017 7:41 pm 
 

Fred Durst is too honourable a rank for such a user. Oh, if I were to call him names...
Thanks in advance, Az. Cheers, man.
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Midnight Rider
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 3:36 am 
 

Vandalism: Defreasis2 (see profile information and his edits)

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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 6:11 am 
 

Az got it.

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PostPosted: Tue May 30, 2017 10:32 pm 
 

https://www.metal-archives.com/users/KunsthauchOfficial

I don't trust this guy or the activity periods he is adding. Seems like he searched bands that have K. in their name and just added random things to their activity periods.

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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 7:52 pm 
 

Warned. Undo all of his edits.
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 9:25 pm 
 

https://www.metal-archives.com/users/milkywaytoheaven

Vandalism on Michael Keene's artist page.

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