changed as suggested.

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=5308

It is my opinion that this one should be updated: back at the time of the demos (and they are avaiable for download: http://portugalunderground.blogspot.com ... d+Death+-+) this band was (to me of course) Thrash. Later on they became softer and i guess Gothic or Doom suits better.

www.myspace.com/morbiddeathband

Hey,

When I first put my band on this site, I didn't know what exact style of metal we were playing so I decided to put 'Thrash Metal' because it was the most logical if I have to choose between death, black and thrash.

With a review saying we were more into Groove Metal / Neo-Thrash, I now know what we are doing.

Can the metal genre be changed on the profile ?

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=114318

And this is the band: www.myspace.com/polishdebin

Thanks in advance.

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=7750

This band's genre should be changed to.... something else. I don't think the current pseudo-genre is very descriptive...

I am of the opinion that progressive black metal is not an apt genre description for Solstafir. The vocals are definitely not black metal-ish (more punk/hardcore I would say), and the overall sound does not remind me of black metal.. Progressive, yes, maybe post metal (or post black!). In any case, someone more knowledgeable than I should think about changing the genre.

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3213

There appears to be a large number of bands with their vocal style included in their genre. Some of these are kinda ridiculous, however:

47 search results for "vocal

9. Chapel of Ghouls Death/Thrash with raspy vocals
16. Empyrean (Are) Progressive Metal with harsh vocals
17. Enuma Elish Power Metal with Gothic Vocals
18. Esfinge Power Metal w/ Flamenco Influenced Vocals
21. Faerghail Melodic 'Death'/Heavy Metal with Harsh Vocals
22. Ghouli Traditional Doom with raw vocals
25. Immortal Cringe Thrash/Death Metal with hardcore vocals
26. Laughter's Not Enough Death Metal with Traditional Metal vocals
27. Lone Rager traditional heavy metal with rapped vocals
29. Neotruth Progressive Metal with Death Metal Vocals
30. Nox Aeterna Symphonic Metal with harsh and melodic vocals
31. Odious Sanction Death Metal with Hardcore vocals
32. Officum Death/Doom Metal with Black Metal vocals
34. Painmuseum Power/Thrash Metal with Harsh Vocals
36. Pod People Sludge/Doom Metal with death vocals
43. Tzefa Thrashy heavy metal with opera vocals
46. Xanthos Melodic/Folk Metal with Harsh Vocals

Some of these are a bit excessive.

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=21632

"Regressive Black Metal"?

Found a couple of bands tagged with the oft-disputed "post-metal" genre tag:

Viscera (Ita)
Goregrind (early) - post metal/drone/experimental (now)
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=41195
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Kingdom (Bel)
Sludge/Doom/Post-Metal
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540271304


Also found this one:
Ysigim
Doom Metal/Post-Funeral Doom Metal
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=29982

Which is really strange. What, exactly, is "Post-Funeral Doom Metal"?

Sonic Violence: http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=87904

Listed as "Industrial Thrash/Grind" yet sounds nothing like it. They're monolithic industrial metal ala Godflesh. This needs to be changed because I always thought they might have sounded like a Skrew/Napalm Death style band but upon listening to them, it's not.

I'll trust you on that one.

Got rid of those post-metal tags as well.

Svarti Loghin is herein qualified as Depressive Black Metal. This is hardly accurate; their music is typically more mid-tempo than down-tempo, and the riffs are "happy", or convey "optimism" most of the time. If Black Metal really isn't sufficient, it might be possible to had another element like "post-rock", but I don't think it's necessary.

Thoughts?
(Quick listen)

Edit: Thanks Witcher.

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540273567

Can't this band's genre be changed to Folk/Black Metal? It has a pretty blackened sound, and just folk metal can be a bit misleading. For example i think of Korpiklaani when I hear folk metal, but this sounds nothing like it.

http://www.myspace.com/martolea

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=15065

This band's genre is basically made up of two pseudo genres. Since it's an underground band, i couldn't find any samples, so it's genre should be changed to something which is probably closer to it's true genre. Viking/black or somethign like that.

I have decided to make this public, since apparently some black metal bands still do not feel the need to respect the system here:



So a band that is listed as folk/black metal does not like it, even if they are massively folk music based, because they do not want to be a part of some scene?

http://www.myspace.com/valuatir
Listen for yourselves.


Is that logical? No, not at all. It is another of black metal mannerisms, which do not impress me at all and which start to get on my nerves.
Black metal is not an underground music anymore, it is the new breeding ground for primadonas, which put David Lee Roth or Brett Michaels to shame.

At least those two mention did not demand respect for their deeds based on their music.

To make it clear, this is an encyclopaedia. It should contain correct info on line-ups, band members and releases. There is the help by bands welcome. But we will list them under the style tag we fell fits their music best and they will never have the chance to manipulate the pages to their liking. They should finally live with it and follow the example of other reasonable users.

It is about time to change their ways. No other style of metal has so many musicians seemingly without common sense.

their drummer is in Folkearth.

Evilfeast, listed as Symphonic Black Metal. The keyboards in Evilfeast might be prominent, but they are used to enhance the atmosphere rather than to create a symphonic background of strings/brass/etc.
Evilfeast is musically closer to Darkthrone than to Emperor, hence "Black Metal" should suffice, or "Ambient/Black Metal", or if you are very picky, "Atmospheric Black Metal" should do.


(But all Black Metal is more or less atmospheric, depends on the definition...)

I second this, I would like to see "Ambient Black Metal" for Evilfeast.

"Ambient/Black Metal" seems incorrect to me, judging from the reviews on the site, myspace samples, and your own description. That would imply minutes upon minutes of sparse, eerie soundscapes, which doesn't seem to be the case.

I changed it to Atmospheric Black Metal.

Yes, when it's ambient/black metal, I regard it as having pure ambient soundscapes at times, while having pure black metal at other times. I think classifying it as "Ambient Black Metal" would work because they combine ambience and black metal and present it as a whole.

EDIT: But I see you changed it to "Atmospheric Black Metal". Ok, that works.

Yes, good one. I've been meaning to say something about them for a while now.

What the hell is Extreme rock n metal?
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=25671

Edit :
Also change this to crossover, or whatever their genre is. It's a weird band, but rock/metal is not enough for a genre.

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=117312
http://www.myspace.com/holysmokepl

http://www.myspace.com/ninemusic
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=20442

Their genre on M.A. would imply they are not metal. I do not know if the myspace songs are metal or not, but if they aren't than the band should be deleted, since it is not a side-project. Or is it an exception?

all fixed.

Fear Factory's label of "Industrial/Death Metal" is inaccurate as they no longer possessed any death metal elements in any of their releases after their debut. I think their genre should look like "Industrial/Death Metal (first album), Industrial Metal (post-Soul of a New Machine/current)".

The change you proposed was too minimal, but I took the opportunity and added groove metal to their description, which is the most prevalent facet of their sound anyway.

What is Rock/metal crossover?

I guess the band is somewhere in between stoner and sludge, maybe a bit of groove. Anyway the current genres should be changed.

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=7755
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu ... d=64329999

Well, their first album Soul of a New Machine was purely DM, and their album Concrete, which was intended to be their very first release even before SoaNM is also pure DM, which constitutes 2 of their 8 full lengths. So, it kinda makes more sense to have it as "Death Metal (early), Death/Industrial (mid-era), Groove/Industrial (now)".

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Death/Industrial already accounts for those subtleties, no need to be that specific. You won't see any band labeled "speed metal (early), speed/thrash (mid), thrash (late)" either.

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=12

Not too sure what I would call Bal-Sagoth but they sure aren't black metal.

They sure are black metal, as demostrated by Black Moon Broods...

The current genre fits them well, the music is black metal based, even if of an original, symphonic/melodic kind.

No problem, totally your call, but Cradle of Filth has a similar genre set-up as the one I (and, to a degree, Viral) was proposing: Death Metal (Demo era), Black/Gothic Metal (early), Extreme Gothic Metal (recent), for one band that is labeled like that.

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Now playing: Amon Amarth - The Last With Pagan Blood

http://metal-archives.com/band.php?id=26

Not counting Figure Number Five, the band's sound only changed once, between Chainheart Machine and Predator's Portrait. After PP, the albums got more melodic and cleanly produced, while Sworn to a Great Divide returned some of the older, thrashy stuff from the before PP era.

Stabbing the Drama does contain some blah from Figure Number Five, but that's about it.

As for Figure Number Five, they didn't "add" alternative elements all of a sudden. Alternative elements were in their sound since PP, and probably in Chainheart Machine.

Their tag should be Melodic Death/Gothenburg with Alternative Influences

There is no metalcore in Soilwork's sound. Absolutely none. Calling them metalcore is like calling Slayer and Exodus death metal. Thrash influenced death metal. Melodic death influenced metalcore, but reciprocating the tags in each case isn't correct. So, at least remove the metalcore tag.

I strongly disagree with that. I think the core riffing is not even close to black metal. More of a heavy/power type, I'd say. The only mildly black metal element I hear are the vocals, which is still somewhat of a stretch.

Sorry, I didn't know where to post this, so i'm just putting it here.

Couldn't a russian user, transcribe the names of these badns into non-cyrillic? Not all users know cyrillic letters, so they can not read these bands' names.

http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540274193
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=3540274194

Menace Ruine

"Drone/doom metal with neo-folk influencies". Apart from the typo, it's basically correct, but it occults the main genre: Black Metal.
With some more typical blast beating, droning and screaming tracks, Menace Ruine is definitely black metal-based.

I'd say "Black Metal/Drone" and something about the Neofolk (or whatever you call it) could be added, as it is quite prominent too.

The first one is Egregor T'my, and the second should be Trizna (Ukr), I was just going to report them, how did they got accepted with cyrillic names (theoretically they could be already in the database)..

Nonsense, heavy/power riffing is something else. The band came from the black metal scene and was always black metal based. Really, stop trying to rewrite musical histories of bands because of your personal taste.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5r9PoGewraI
The riffing in fast parts is still black metal based and the rest does not differ too much from what Dimmu Borgir uses. There is certain neo-classical influence, but that changes nothing on the band's origin.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXZcczVv ... re=related
Early on it was pure symphonic black metal, no ppower metal to be found here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFdtYZQo ... re=related

Thanks. Now a mod should change the band names.

Edit: Also, i thing the "Western Metal" thing should be removed from here.
http://www.metal-archives.com/band.php?id=8441

I haven't bothered with the later albums, but I think that at least for The Dawn of Dying it actually fits the music better than the other genre descriptions. The entire soundtrack thing is much more dominant then the thrash elements for example (I haven't listened to the album in quite some time, but I think there was only one mostly thrash song on there).

Okay, first, this is not some attempt at historical revision on my part because I don't like the band; in fact, I really enjoy The Power Cosmic from time to time. I have no idea where you got that notion. Second, I will agree with you on their older material, however, nowadays I think their output is pretty far from black metal. Again, I'm not too sure exactly what I would call, possibly a third (or fourth even) opinion might help on this matter?