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~Guest 372953
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:13 am 
 
velatropa24 wrote:
The band Λ S T R Λ has a wrong genre listed.

The actual genre should read "Atmospheric black metal"

https://astra1111.bandcamp.com/track/--5
https://astra1111.bandcamp.com/album/76


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Metal Asylum
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:22 am 
 
Jophelerx wrote:
Metal Asylum wrote:
I see your point, but at the same time you can't really say that Gothic Rock has any presence in the first 5 Full-lengths, or in the latest 2.


...

...

Almost blatantly stupid enough for me to sig, but not quite.

This guy needs to keep posting, sooner or later he's bound to say something that's comedy gold.

I'm hoping for something along the lines of "there's no Sabbath influence in doom metal." :-D


Some jerk can't tell the difference between Gothic Rock and Gothic Metal. You know who it might be?
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 11:23 am 
 
Jophelerx has been warned. Let's just move on, please.
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OpsiusCato
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 5:56 pm 
 
velatropa24 wrote:
Any update? Post went fully ignored?

Solved.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 6:08 pm 
 
Many thanks
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Bachstein
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 5:13 am 
 
Hi,

I think the genre of Leprous (NOR) should be changed to prog metal (early) , progressive metal/rock (later). I think since their album Coal they blend more and more rock elements to their sound and their latest release, Malina is pure progressive rock. What's your opinion?
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TheStormIRide
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 10:54 am 
 
Bachstein wrote:
Hi,

I think the genre of Leprous (NOR) should be changed to prog metal (early) , progressive metal/rock (later). I think since their album Coal they blend more and more rock elements to their sound and their latest release, Malina is pure progressive rock. What's your opinion?


I'll update the tag to just read "Progressive Metal/Rock". There's not really a need for a convoluted genre tag for a shift like that. But you are right, "Malina" is basically just prog rock.
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Bachstein
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 09, 2017 1:37 pm 
 
TheStormIRide wrote:
Bachstein wrote:
Hi,

I think the genre of Leprous (NOR) should be changed to prog metal (early) , progressive metal/rock (later). I think since their album Coal they blend more and more rock elements to their sound and their latest release, Malina is pure progressive rock. What's your opinion?


I'll update the tag to just read "Progressive Metal/Rock". There's not really a need for a convoluted genre tag for a shift like that. But you are right, "Malina" is basically just prog rock.


That's OK, thanks!
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Bachstein
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 4:23 am 
 
Hi mods,

Der Weg einer Freiheit https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Der_Weg_einer_Freiheit/3540275159 released their latest LP Finsterre not so long ago and this album has many post/(atmospheric) elements.
You can listen to the whole album here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLArAJlC1y558N-RTx_UuYQMgkJ_OuZFF6

I think this should be indicated in their genre.
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hakarl
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 6:43 am 
 
I've listened to Finisterre quite a bit, and I agree that it incorporates post-metal elements, like long build-ups and intense climaxes, and it is indeed a very atmospheric record. In my estimation the core of the sound and the majority of the music (both on Finisterre and their discography in general) is very much just black metal, and I don't recommend that the genre be changed. I feel like it would be warranted by a much less subtle change of sound. Finisterre's style is in clear linear progression from the previous full-length album, and therefore not a style shift as such.

My two cents as a big fan of Der Weg, Finisterre, black metal and post-metal. :)
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hatrix
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 11:59 pm 
 
Hammersmyth:

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ha ... 3540261459

Band was clearly Power/Progressive Metal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjUsBOOuvrw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReQ2m7KvsOo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNjfqa2A41Q
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 6:49 am 
 
hatrix wrote:
Hammersmyth:

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Ha ... 3540261459

Band was clearly Power/Progressive Metal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjUsBOOuvrw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReQ2m7KvsOo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNjfqa2A41Q

Changed.
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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:26 pm 
 
Visitor WG report that is likely way off, but due to the band's 2004 submission date, anything is possible: https://www.metal-archives.com/report/v ... 2/show/all
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TheGrimWombat
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 12:50 pm 
 
Diamhea wrote:
Visitor WG report that is likely way off, but due to the band's 2004 submission date, anything is possible: https://www.metal-archives.com/report/v ... 2/show/all


I would say what the visitor suggests is closer to what they play than metalcore, but it has a lot more groove metal to my ears than death metal.
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TheGrimWombat
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:28 pm 
 
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Th ... der/102581

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVPrQSs ... 0headspace

Probably should just be listed as Deathcore.
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~Guest 368187
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 4:25 pm 
 
Hexx's new album, Wrath of the Reaper, is back to the power/thrash metal style that they played on their first two albums. Their genre should probably be updated to "Power/Thrash Metal (early, later), Death Metal (mid)".
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Gomenando2017
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 9:38 am 
 
I think they should update the genre they play. Gorguts began as traditional death metal in their first 2, the classics ''Considered Dead'' and ''The Erosion Of Sanity'', and then came with the avant-garde and technical.

Genre: Death Metal (early), Technical/Avant-garde Death Metal (later).

Death Metal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7agP1l ... jreload=10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dW78R5VC1MU

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Gorguts/1124
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GOOFAM
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:42 pm 
 
Northern Lights is listed as neoclassical power, but I think they should be neoclassical progressive or at least neoclassical power/prog. There are a lot of unusual structures and tempo changes in most of the songs on their album. A couple of the tracks lean toward more of a power metal aesthetic, but the progressive seems stronger to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98sqZe1QOx0 (perhaps the most proggy they get); also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YssuuSHEOB0 (even in a track like this with some power elements it stays considerably proggy)
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Starseeker
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 4:03 am 
 
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Gmork/94623 are listed as simply black metal band which is wrong now. Their early stuff was partly atmospheric black metal but since at least 2013 full-length they are obviously playing a mix of melodic black and melodic death metal with inspiration from bands like Dissection etc. Their new stuff:
https://adventofgmork.bandcamp.com/albu ... ls-erotica
https://adventofgmork.bandcamp.com/album/ave-nihil
Atmospheric BM:
https://adventofgmork.bandcamp.com/albu ... -part-only
They also created a different project to make experiments with atmospheric BM called "La Mer Est Morte" and stated that they are going to keep the style of their latest albums with Gmork: https://vk.com/wall-454642_1752
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Starseeker
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2017 7:12 am 
 
I also don't think that melodic death metal is a convenient tag for the newest releases of Stielas Storhett:
https://vk.com/wall-26140698_223075
https://vk.com/wall-26140698_163150
At least, melodic death/black or even post-black metal
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Midnight Rider
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 4:56 pm 
 
Barón Rojo is Hard Rock/Heavy Metal.

Overall, the 100% pure heavy metal songs from their discography are mostly few and correspond to the following ones:

Larga Vida Al Rock & Roll (1981): metal songs: Larga vida al rock and roll
Volumen Brutal (1982): metal songs: Incomunicación, Resistiré, El barón vuela sobre Inglaterra
Metalmorfosis (1983): metal songs: Tierra de vándalos, ¿Qué puedo hacer?
En un lugar de la marcha (1985): metal songs: Cuerdas de acero, Breakthoven, No ver, no hablar, no oir, El baile de los malditos, Caso perdido
Tierra De Nadie (1987): metal songs: Pico de oro, La voz de su amo, Sombras de la noche
¡No va más! (1988): no metal songs. (glam/hard rock)
Obstinato (1989): metal songs: Vampiros y banqueros, Tren fantasma (both heavy/speed metal songs)
Desafío (1992): metal songs: Te espero en el infierno, Alí Babá, El enemigo a abatir,
Arma Secreta (1997): metal songs: Bajo Tierra, Todo me da igual, Fugitivo, Comunicación
20+ (2001): metal songs: Sigue, Quémame con tu piel
Perversiones (2003): cover album.
Ultimasmentes (2006): couldn't find the full album. (available songs: 1, 2, 3)
Tommy Barón: a rock opera cover album.

The rest are either bluesy hard rock, ballads or hybrid heavy/rock songs. In conclusion, they are mainly a hard rock band with metal moments.


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Sepulchrave
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 11:10 am 
 
I think Black/Gothic Metal would work better for Darkstyle than just Gothic Metal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vy0zTJL12U8
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 3:43 pm 
 
Instead of "Alternative heavy/groove metal", the band Of the Earth should be labeled as "Stoner/Groove Metal":
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Of_ ... 3540429168

http://oftheearth.bandcamp.com/
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mechabarbarian
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 2:06 pm 
 
The genre for both Mind Over Four and Peace and Silence currently say "Heavy Metal"
Alternative/Progressive Metal would probably fit both bands better, maybe just Alternative/Grunge for Peace and Silence:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Mind_over_Four/3561
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Peace_and_Silence/117714
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:36 pm 
 
Crimsonfire (https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Crimsonfire/3077) should be listed as Progressive/Power Metal and not just power metal. While songs like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdhOwEMNvNA are indeed fairly straight power, they also have a number of proggy bits and cite a strong Dream Theater influence on their website. Here's an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjBNUAP8ovg; there are several others.
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~Guest 368187
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 13, 2017 4:01 pm 
 
Wind Rose is currently listed as "Progressive/Power Metal", while I'm not that familiar with their other 2 albums, their latest album, Stonehymn, sounds pretty folk metal to me. I'd suggest changing their genre to "Progressive/Power/Folk Metal".

Full YouTube playlist of Stonehymn: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... Rgt6wvzH3Q


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PaganiusI
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:42 pm 
 
At Winter's End

No way that's just Death Metal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDeaHuVhtnQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeGtOSJjUZY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EK6bmuAhXo

Just found 3 songs online if that's enough to make the genre reflect the Amorphis/Paradise Lost influences.

Here's their myspace, but I can't manage to make them play on my divice
https://myspace.com/awefinland
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 8:19 am 
 
Danava listed as Psychedelic/Stoner rock/Metal. In my humble opinion, they sound more like a classical Heavy Metal/Psychedelic Rock band to me. I don't think every band with a retro sound should be classified under the "Stoner" tag.

https://youtu.be/pYCt8S0l_rE
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Bachstein
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 1:26 pm 
 
Hi mods,

I've recently listened to the new album of Inverted Serenity, and I think the genre field could be updated with the 'progressvive' tag. You can check their latest release below:
As Spectres Wither

Waiting for your comments about it.
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hakarl
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 6:28 am 
 
Daniel Lioneye

The latter part of the genre, Melodic Black/Gothic Metal, seems completely outlandish. The third album is modern Finnish hard rock or melodic metal, like a heavier Suburban Tribe, or contemporary Amorphis without the folk or prog elements. I haven't heard Vol. II, so it could be different, but I think a thorough re-evaluation of the genre would be in order.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... VgATdcTEhs

Edit: One of the songs halfway into the album has some Gorgoroth-style trill riffs and distorted vocals. That's probably black metal influence, but it's extremely an cut-and-dried, mainstream-safe variety.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 23, 2017 2:58 pm 
 
I feel like Ishtar (Korea) should have "Symphonic" added to their genre, as it's a common style throughout their discography. Not to mention, they're heavily influenced by Nightwish, seeing as they incorporate operatic vocals, list them as a "recommended if you like" band on CDBaby and were an opening act for Tarja's solo project.

Nothing's Atrocity (2010)
-Atrocious Kiss
-Sea Queen
-Two in One

Conquest (2011)
-Death and Rebirth
-All of Us
-Mater Natura
-CDBaby previews

Center of Your Soul (2014)
-CDBaby previews

Rise (2015)
-Rise
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 11:21 am 
 
Humanity Zero needs a change, their latest album is Doom/Death Metal

New Album: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bYBoQHiEv4

Older stuff:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JwV17QFuTE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weeJ6DA9gzo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ft-TaHEyPPg
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2017 4:38 pm 
 
I think the listing for As Divine Grace is kind of misleading. First of all, their early stuff was never pure death metal. It was romantic, melodic sounding death/doom like My Dying Bride or Paradise Lost. As for their later work, it's incredibly gothic sounding. When I think of "doom rock", I think of Witchcraft or Bloody Ceremony. Their first full-length, Lumo, is pretty standard gothic/doom, whereas Supremature is almost pure gothic rock/shoegaze.

I think it'd be better if their genre were changed to "Doom/Death Metal (early), Gothic/Doom Metal/Rock (later)". The latter is sort of a broad way to cover both Lumo and Supremature.

First EP (doom/death metal):


Lumo (gothic/doom metal):


Supremature (gothic rock):
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2017 5:52 pm 
 
Cross-posting a report created by a visitor:


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Regarding the musical genre, Bride's last heavy metal album was Silence Is Madness from 1989. They have changed their style to hard rock on the Kinetic Faith album in 1991 and continued in that musical style ever since, first with some blues infliences, then with some Nu-metal influences as rapping in some songs. So, the genre should be changed to heavy metal (early), hard rock (later). Proof: Read the Angelic Warlord review of Kinetic Faith: http://www.angelicwarlord.com/reviews/b/bride91.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A48JiaHmgw
Listen to the whole Kinetic Faith album, the songs are interlinked: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o98rbfDUAVQ https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... P9BCrY_PrG

Source/Evidence:
http://www.angelicwarlord.com/reviews/b/bride91.html
Listen to the whole Snakes In The Playground album: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A48JiaHmgw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o98rbfDUAVQ https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... P9BCrY_PrG


Feel free to close it when done checking.
Report is <here>
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 3:12 pm 
 
So, in case you hadn't noticed, the report queue is more than a little bloated lately. In an effort to kill off some of the fat, I'm cross-posting several of the Wrong Genre reports with valid evidence to this thread, since A) Knights can't work them anyway, and B) this is a more visible spot to get them worked on. Enjoy.

Band: Addiction of a Murderer
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Yung Static Tha VHS Tape wrote:
Death Metal/Hardcore is a bit of a stretch. This band is clearly deathcore.
Source:
https://aoam.bandcamp.com/


Band: Akari
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Visitor wrote:
Its not black metal
Source:
Just listen https://akaricult.bandcamp.com/album/ep


Band: Ancient Prophecy
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Visitor wrote:
Ancient Prophecy actually started as a gothic/doom/death metal band and their first album Days Of Doom was in that musical style. They have added some power metal elements on their
2008 demo and finally became a full on power metal band on the Pounded For Our Sins album. I propose changing their genre to gothic/doom/death metal (early, power metal (later). Please, listen to the complete Pounded For Our Sins album on Youtube and also to a song"Hands On The Wall" from the first album Days Of Doom.
Source:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjcXkA4kKlY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSNYqt1vkGE
https://ok.ru/video/1557529976


Band: Bride
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Visitor wrote:
Regarding the musical genre, Bride's last heavy metal album was Silence Is Madness from 1989. They have changed their style to hard rock on the Kinetic Faith album in 1991 and continued in that musical style ever since, first with some blues infliences, then with some Nu-metal influences as rapping in some songs. So, the genre should be changed to heavy metal (early), hard rock (later). Proof: Read the Angelic Warlord review of Kinetic Faith: http://www.angelicwarlord.com/reviews/b/bride91.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A48JiaHmgw
Listen to the whole Kinetic Faith album, the songs are interlinked: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o98rbfDUAVQ https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... P9BCrY_PrG
Source:
http://www.angelicwarlord.com/reviews/b/bride91.html
Listen to the whole Snakes In The Playground album: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4A48JiaHmgw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o98rbfDUAVQ https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... P9BCrY_PrG


Band: Devilish Impressions
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NekrussNox wrote:
As I already suggested last year (and posted at MA forum as was required in this report https://www.metal-archives.com/report/v ... 55106&#41;, Devilish Impressions never played "Symphonic" Metal.

"Simulacra" is their only album that has a highlighted use of keyboards and synths. In all other albums, keyboards and synths are used as secondary elements.
The "Eritis Sicut Deus" demo and the "Plurima Mortis Imago" album are very experimental and avant-garde sounding records. "Diabolicaons" is also somewhat experimental (in some songs), but mostly very straightforward Black/Death Metal. Their new album "The I" is epic/atmospheric.

I suggest to use "Experimental Black/Death Metal" to unify all of the above, because the band literally makes each new album a musical experiment which mixes various styles and elements.
Source:
From "The I":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeJKjIhon6Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rj_iy0ry30U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6feb0OlaEro

"Diabolicanos" full stream:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhiPkrignjs

From "Plurima Mortis Imago":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAwVKT_FUlU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZA6farws5eM

From "Eritis Sicut Deus" demo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OISf2cpTe90


Band: Disinfected
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cepit wrote:
More precisely listed as brutal death metal.
Source:
Taken from full-length album (2000): https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4SrZOGGrVVg
Taken from EP album (2005): https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ISyvF8bCct8
Taken from split album (2012): https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QXVfbN2MwtQ


Band: Edelweiss
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In addition to my reports to remove the material released as Sturmflagge, I don't really think the current field accurately encapsulate all of Edelweiss's discography.

RAC describes "Der Kampf geht weiter" most accurately along with elements of Thrash Metal, Groove Metal, Hardcore and Heavy Metal.

The most unequivocally Metal album is "Absolution" with its mix of Death Metal, Thrash Metal and Hardcore.

"Auf dem..." and "Evangelium" are where things get weird. Both are along the lines of Hardcore Punk, Black Metal, Groove Metal, Industrial Metal and Electronica at times. The instrumentation on "Evangelium" is particularly jarring with these crescendoing synths and keyboards. I don't know if the guy was trying to be Avant-Garde, but sheesh, he didn't stick to one genre on the later albums.

I didn't bother posting the intros/outros on "Evangelium" since they're ultimately irrelevant to the basis of the album's sound.
Source:
"Der Kampf geht weiter":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQiYXLsU8O4 (Thrash / Hardcore)
https://vocaroo.com/i/s1ixYfBcG6Gx (Thrash / Heavy / RAC)
https://vocaroo.com/i/s0CxjytxEznM (Heavy / RAC)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDS2nYaubwU& (RAC)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuS_YCM2Smk (RAC)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MhEMBMVqNQ& (RAC)
https://vocaroo.com/i/s1F9iChLMHbS (Hardcore / Groove)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVqNa5KmG_4 (RAC)
https://vocaroo.com/i/s1DBRWC1dgbF (Groove / Thrash)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypXQKM8Bdv0 (Hardcore / RAC / Thrash)
https://vocaroo.com/i/s03N2grPv6l9 (Hardcore)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhRs_urYt-g (Thrash / RAC)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVBvSQ81isU (RAC)

"Absolution":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb1UxeHsy40 (Thrash / Death / Groove)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ua4lES_yi5M (Thrash)
https://vocaroo.com/i/s10Ygi8xGK6h (Thrash / Hardcore / Heavy)
https://vocaroo.com/i/s0driTV7TMl8 (Groove / Hardcore)
https://vocaroo.com/i/s0le2DCLVkpZ (Thrash / Groove)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgoO-sZBEUQ (Thrash / Hardcore)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2CilfUg-ec (Thrash / Hardcore)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJ-ijMrEvSE (Thrash / Hardcore / Death)
https://vocaroo.com/i/s0rLXQv0nOjy (Death / Thrash)

"Auf dem Weg zur Macht":
https://vocaroo.com/i/s1wAaK9RpLuy (Thrash / Hardcore / Death)
https://vocaroo.com/i/s184we1FURjt (Heavy Ballad / Death / Groove)
https://vocaroo.com/i/s0gKU4gGnZaB (Thrash / Electronica)
https://vocaroo.com/i/s1Teos3yH2iB (Thrash / Ballad)
https://vocaroo.com/i/s0qxDNJlb90l (Blackened Thrash / Hardcore)
https://vocaroo.com/i/s0i5OHcRXRks (Groove / Heavy)
https://vocaroo.com/i/s1lbJAeZRPCC (Ballad)
https://vocaroo.com/i/s0dSJldop6zg (Electronica)
https://vocaroo.com/i/s1usf03RoXAp (Death / Thrash)
https://vocaroo.com/i/s0K0Sn1S4sKI (Hardcore / Thrash)
https://vocaroo.com/i/s1DOjBaM276E (Thrash)
https://vocaroo.com/i/s0O9e0cvlDiY (Electronica)

"Evangelium":
https://vocaroo.com/i/s1dmEuj4SdTE (Groove / Hardcore / Thrash)
https://vocaroo.com/i/s1w98jiIoLCM (Blackened Hardcore)
https://vocaroo.com/i/s0Mm6kOp5PTp (Hardcore / Thrash)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FV1yOcEGKSo (Thrash / Death)
https://vocaroo.com/i/s14BrpyQeUE7 (Death / Hardcore / Thrash)
https://vocaroo.com/i/s0rNLD48spFQ (Death / Black / Avant-Garde)
https://vocaroo.com/i/s08eNySddKiA (Death / Groove / Avant-Garde)
https://vocaroo.com/i/s1kYOCk5FUx3 (Industrial / Groove / Thrash / Avant-Garde)


Band: Escvro
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Vtrpira wrote:
Escvro released a new EP and can be categorized now as a Black/Death Metal band.
Source:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIXFgHgmnKQ


Band: Gravkväde
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rasmuskvist wrote:
the genre is depressive black/funeral doom metal
Source:
https://gravkvde.bandcamp.com/releases


Band: Israfel
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Auselesspileofflesh wrote:
Either deathcore or brutal deathcore would be a more accurate description of the band's music.
Source:
https://israfelalbany.bandcamp.com/releases


Band: Kadaverdisciplin
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narsilianshard wrote:
Probably should be Melodic Black Metal considering they're a carbon copy of Naglfar.
Source:
https://hammerheart.bandcamp.com/album/death-supremacy


Band: Obastra
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GuardAwakening wrote:
this isn't remotely close to brutal death

genre is fine how it is just remove the word "brutal"
Source:
https://obastra.bandcamp.com


Band: MadDög
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Visitor wrote:
Black/speed metal is a more fitting genre for Maddög, since their style is similar to other recent black/speed metal bands like Evil Night, Barbarian, Diabolic Night or Sodomizer. Please, listen to the complete album "The Dirty Singles" at Youtube for validation:
Source:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzwHMSUa4EY


Band: Ogre
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GuardAwakening wrote:
This isnt brutal death

In fact listening to this, the genre is very hard to determine

Id call this "experimental black/death metal"

maybe? unless a moderator has a better idea of what to label this, i am unsure but that is as good as i can get to what the band sound like they play.
Source:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=RPCY2I9EG-g
https://youtube.com/watch?v=hCY25JHvSQE
https://youtube.com/watch?v=eO8Vjd-rRIo


Band: Zarkasmo
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DeathRipper666 wrote:
There's melodic stuff in their music (mostly appreciated in the intro of the song "Annihilation of the World"). The vocals are really growls as well. And the drums are constantly blast beats and doubles bass as well (mostly appreciated in the song ("Herederos de Odio").This is surely Melodic Brutal Death Metal.
Source:
https://www.reverbnation.com/zarkasmo
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 12:41 pm 
 
Temisto: https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Temisto/3540408237

Listed as simply "death metal" but there are a lot of jangly, galloping arpeggio riffs that are definitely closer to Ved Buens Ende than to any sort of death metal. I would call it "Black/Death Metal" or perhaps "Progressive Black/Death Metal".

Listen to their only release here: https://temisto.bandcamp.com/releases
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:47 pm 
 
Report crossposting

Morphesia

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Morphesia has an updated logo and image, genre is more of a psychedelic/post-ambient black metal/blackgaze style, lyrics are now based on depression, despair, rejection, death/mortality, nature and misanthropy


took care of evertything but the genre.

Music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TGl_olKyCI
https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/i-for ... mpt=uo%3D4
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2017 2:45 am 
 
mechabarbarian wrote:
The genre for both Mind Over Four and Peace and Silence currently say "Heavy Metal"
Alternative/Progressive Metal would probably fit both bands better, maybe just Alternative/Grunge for Peace and Silence:
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Mind_over_Four/3561
https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Peace_and_Silence/117714

Mind over Four: changed | Peace and Silence: not metal, deleted
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:05 pm 
 
Regarding the band Meta-Stasis (https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Me ... 3540257095)

While they're still a death metal band, their new album specifically draws heavy influences from nu-metal. Sounds like if Slipknot were a death metal band. A tag change to something like "Death Metal, Nu-Metal (later)" would be suitable.

Music: https://meta-stasis.bandcamp.com/album/ ... f-metanoia
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 11:45 am 
 
MetalCuresHeadaches wrote:
So, in case you hadn't noticed, the report queue is more than a little bloated lately. In an effort to kill off some of the fat, I'm cross-posting several of the Wrong Genre reports with valid evidence to this thread, since A) Knights can't work them anyway, and B) this is a more visible spot to get them worked on. Enjoy.

Band: Edelweiss
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Muhammadabbadabba wrote:
In addition to my reports to remove the material released as Sturmflagge, I don't really think the current field accurately encapsulate all of Edelweiss's discography.

RAC describes "Der Kampf geht weiter" most accurately along with elements of Thrash Metal, Groove Metal, Hardcore and Heavy Metal.

The most unequivocally Metal album is "Absolution" with its mix of Death Metal, Thrash Metal and Hardcore.

"Auf dem..." and "Evangelium" are where things get weird. Both are along the lines of Hardcore Punk, Black Metal, Groove Metal, Industrial Metal and Electronica at times. The instrumentation on "Evangelium" is particularly jarring with these crescendoing synths and keyboards. I don't know if the guy was trying to be Avant-Garde, but sheesh, he didn't stick to one genre on the later albums.

I didn't bother posting the intros/outros on "Evangelium" since they're ultimately irrelevant to the basis of the album's sound.
Source:
"Der Kampf geht weiter":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQiYXLsU8O4 (Thrash / Hardcore)
https://vocaroo.com/i/s1ixYfBcG6Gx (Thrash / Heavy / RAC)
https://vocaroo.com/i/s0CxjytxEznM (Heavy / RAC)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDS2nYaubwU& (RAC)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuS_YCM2Smk (RAC)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MhEMBMVqNQ& (RAC)
https://vocaroo.com/i/s1F9iChLMHbS (Hardcore / Groove)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVqNa5KmG_4 (RAC)
https://vocaroo.com/i/s1DBRWC1dgbF (Groove / Thrash)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypXQKM8Bdv0 (Hardcore / RAC / Thrash)
https://vocaroo.com/i/s03N2grPv6l9 (Hardcore)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhRs_urYt-g (Thrash / RAC)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVBvSQ81isU (RAC)

"Absolution":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb1UxeHsy40 (Thrash / Death / Groove)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ua4lES_yi5M (Thrash)
https://vocaroo.com/i/s10Ygi8xGK6h (Thrash / Hardcore / Heavy)
https://vocaroo.com/i/s0driTV7TMl8 (Groove / Hardcore)
https://vocaroo.com/i/s0le2DCLVkpZ (Thrash / Groove)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgoO-sZBEUQ (Thrash / Hardcore)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2CilfUg-ec (Thrash / Hardcore)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJ-ijMrEvSE (Thrash / Hardcore / Death)
https://vocaroo.com/i/s0rLXQv0nOjy (Death / Thrash)

"Auf dem Weg zur Macht":
https://vocaroo.com/i/s1wAaK9RpLuy (Thrash / Hardcore / Death)
https://vocaroo.com/i/s184we1FURjt (Heavy Ballad / Death / Groove)
https://vocaroo.com/i/s0gKU4gGnZaB (Thrash / Electronica)
https://vocaroo.com/i/s1Teos3yH2iB (Thrash / Ballad)
https://vocaroo.com/i/s0qxDNJlb90l (Blackened Thrash / Hardcore)
https://vocaroo.com/i/s0i5OHcRXRks (Groove / Heavy)
https://vocaroo.com/i/s1lbJAeZRPCC (Ballad)
https://vocaroo.com/i/s0dSJldop6zg (Electronica)
https://vocaroo.com/i/s1usf03RoXAp (Death / Thrash)
https://vocaroo.com/i/s0K0Sn1S4sKI (Hardcore / Thrash)
https://vocaroo.com/i/s1DOjBaM276E (Thrash)
https://vocaroo.com/i/s0O9e0cvlDiY (Electronica)

"Evangelium":
https://vocaroo.com/i/s1dmEuj4SdTE (Groove / Hardcore / Thrash)
https://vocaroo.com/i/s1w98jiIoLCM (Blackened Hardcore)
https://vocaroo.com/i/s0Mm6kOp5PTp (Hardcore / Thrash)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FV1yOcEGKSo (Thrash / Death)
https://vocaroo.com/i/s14BrpyQeUE7 (Death / Hardcore / Thrash)
https://vocaroo.com/i/s0rNLD48spFQ (Death / Black / Avant-Garde)
https://vocaroo.com/i/s08eNySddKiA (Death / Groove / Avant-Garde)
https://vocaroo.com/i/s1kYOCk5FUx3 (Industrial / Groove / Thrash / Avant-Garde)

I'm going to take the opportunity to crosspost my report for Сокира Перуна (or "Sokyra Peruna").

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Despite the lyrical content, "Pagan Metal" doesn't fit as a genre descriptor. I reckon "Pagan Metal" requires an integration of elaborate folksy instrumentation with Metal riffs, which this band lacks almost entirely. The Metal albums are Metal, and the Folk albums are Folk.

Their first three albums were RAC entirely, so if nothing else, the genre field should be updated to reflect that.

The only folk and rock together can be heard on their RAC albums and "...І мертвим, і живим, і ненародженим (...To fallen, alive and unborn...)". "To Fallen..." is almost entirely Folk with only occasional segments of Metal.

"Слово" is a Folk album, full stop.

"For All We Have and Are" marks the beginning of their turn towards Heavy Metal much like their Czech contemporaries Excalibur. That album features epic Heavy Metal with sporadic synthy crescendoes. "XV" would continue those themes with keyboards instead of synths

"Invictus" and the last two albums are almost borderline mallcore-esque Groove Metal with all those phat chugz going on. Some Hardcore/Metalcore going on, too. There's still enough Metal going on to merit inclusion, but Pagan Metal, it ain't. Not even remotely.

Source/Evidence:
"Очі, сповнені гніву" (RAC):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFykmL5ehCY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMhH7slFE0o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyfR866b7Fo

"Європейська єдність" (RAC):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKhWu9pGq4g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOaQIauW7UY

"For All We Have and Are" (Heavy Metal):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fY410UlmqJw

"...i мертвим, i живим, i ненародженим" (Folk/Hard Rock):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RV7IcFrGm1Q

"XV" (Heavy Metal):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6cj9kIndAc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOhLZnj1-r0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4qj7BIa7Po

"Invictus" (Groove Metal):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7MM8KFrRQ4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3QNB9V3izw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwyIIkZFDFE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRi2OlIqqyg

"Братство Сумлiння" (Groove/Heavy Metal):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... q7rNkUHGWq

"Сталевий промінь волі" (Groove Metal):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGnV_JMl_8U
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