Well, you have the final word on the genre, and the post tag fits well I think, but I also suggest to add at least the experimental tag to it. I know, it's really hard to categorize this album, but only the "post-metal" genre could be misleading.

I sorta checked out of the fandom around the time the members started more or less publicly hating each other (so like, 2008ish?), but I was pretty obsessed with them and listened to everything they put out quite literally hundreds of times as a teenager. The problem with Nevermore is that they play a really odd, nebulous style of metal that doesn't fit neatly into any one category, and any suggested hybrid of genres just somehow sounds more wrong. Say, "progressive/groove metal" makes total sense for their first album (you can not argue that songs like Garden of Gray or What Tomorrow Knows are anything other than groove), but not many afterwards. Simply "progressive metal" is misleading too since all of their songs barring a statistically insignificant handful are structured very simply in the standard "verse-chorus-verse-chorus-bridge-solo-chorus" format and the riffs themselves aren't really all that proggy or weird. "Progressive/thrash metal" doesn't work since any thrash influence they have, while notable at times (like Seed Awakening, The Fault of the Flesh, or 42147) is never a consistent element of their sound and is wholly absent in most of them. There's pretty much no death metal to be found other than... I dunno, the intro of Who Decides or maybe the drumming in Born? Then they took a stab at more accessible mainstream metal/hard rock with like a third of Dead Heart in a Dead World (see The Heart Collector or the apparently inescapable Believe in Nothing). There's really just no one thing to pin them down as throughout their career, but it's not the obvious all-over-the-place type of thing that warrants a "Various" tag, obviously.

So in all honesty, I'd honestly propose the best genre for them is just plain old Progressive Metal. Throughout all the little differences they would toy with, the only constant that never changed is that the base of what they were doing was rooted in some kind of modern prog metal, especially with Loomis' constant guitar theatrics/neverending dimishing phyrigian/locrian sweeps in every fucking song.

Hi,

Regarding the band Fuoco Fatuo http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Fuoco_Fatuo/3540354366 I feel a very stong funeral doom presence in both of their full-length albums, but especially in Backwater. Could someone check it and leave me a reply?
I suggest that their current genre should be Death/Doom Metal (early) and Funeral Doom Metal (later)
Below is the link to their latest album:
http://profoundlorerecords.bandcamp.com/album/backwater

Xexyz combines Black Metal with 8-bit-samples from old Nintendo games, so maybe the genre should be changed to Electronic Black Metal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMj3SyV9A74

Hesperia is categorized as Atmospheric Pagan Black Metal (correct for the early albums), but currently plays epic Heavy Metal with some Black and Folk hints.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNOsKU7tuL8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DGy2KHbARc

Any progress?
They just released new official video taken from latest demo on Youtube. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yQrHeCzI7JY

So I was looking into Rude Awakening, who are labeled as power metal, and sampling several songs from their album "Scaring the Paper People," they are most definitely not power metal, mostly thrash, and I think some groove as well (I'm not super knowledgeable on how groove differs from some other tangential genres, but I know it's not power metal). Here are some links to songs from the album:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9BQnhPnEqo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZRjz3ajDYk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbsh1HKiIrg (This one is more power/thrash, but definitely not pure PM)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQUL8LWIb5w (This one's also kinda power/thrash)

So I guess there is some power metal on a few songs, but it's some weird combination of thrash/power/groove or something. Thanks!

Changed to ""Funeral Doom/Death Metal" to avoid redundancies, as it encompasses their whole output.

Thank you!

Bumping this.

Bringing this case up again, since a week has passed.
Also, the link to the band's page: http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Mahakala/111593

Also bumping this.

Bump.

I post one of my reports that has more place here about the "war black metal".
"Hi, I was thinking a lot about the kind of Marduk. And now I tell myself that defining the band as just "black metal" is not quite right. Marduk, like 1349, Revenge or War, we have a pretty brutal style, I do not think we should add the tag "brutal black metal" but put something like "war black metal". I can understand that creating lots of not especially useful tags can be anecdotal but I really think it is necessary to separate this kind of groups from the usual black metal. I take the tag "medieval black metal", when I saw it on the site I was quite amazed, so I wonder why not add "war black metal". So, thank you for taking the trouble to read my message, it's just a suggestion I had in mind for a long time."

Some links :
War : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WykPE-ZTIHY
Marduk : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNJZf2WNGn0
1349 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbNL7iTKOV0
Revenge : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VbYXX6xNKs ( maybe war black/death? )

Other bands that might carry the tag "war black metal"
Infernal War : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSlUgQBMr10
Urgehal : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mz1BiT5HWhI
Zyklon-B : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=207FfyDAyH4
Tunrida : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0POndh12pcY&t=54s

"War" metal is not a recognized genre regarding site nomenclature.

War metal may be a somewhat recognized style on its own, but like other outliers like slam and NSBM, it's not the kind of thing we categorize on the site. That's what lyrical themes/reviews/similar artists are for. We can only get so hair-splitty.

^ And you don't even know what war metal is apparently. It's Blasphemy, Conqueror, Blasphemophagher, Black Witchery etc. Not Marduk and 1349 lol.

Arian Vaejah sound like pagan or black/pagan metal rather than just folk. RAR - https://yadi.sk/d/s7c1RB94428sO
Sorry for quality, the best I could find.

In regards to war metal, we tag those kinds of bands (the sort Tony cited) as black/death, just like we group slam as brutal death. Maybe this will change sometime in the future, but for now this is the level of genre detail we apply.

Hi,

Rgerading Elforr's last album, it's pure dungeon synth.
http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/El ... Sad/644881

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUBMPrqddxc

Genre should be changed according to that. Thanks in advance!

The Greek band Obsecration are labeled as death metal which isn't exactly wrong, but their debut album sounds closer to say, Rotting Christ to me, if somewhat thrashier.

Just compare:

Death metal EP that brings to mind early Tiamat:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9Wv3amKRJY

Debut album which to me sounds closer to early Rotting Christ's midpaced moments. I don't think its very death-y at all: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyBHAgtDwuI

It's pretty different from the following albums, which sounds more modern death metal-esque I suppose.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJuPS-M3wXo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxhwia9jtX0

Bump

The Genre is already labeled SYmphonic Black Metal/Ambient. Doesn't need to be changed, it is one ambient album. Unless you can prove the rest of his albums out are going to be Dungeon synth.



I'm not privy with mid-era Rotting Christ (though apparently I'm missing out) but the early stuff... just sort of sounds like Hellenic scene death metal, I guess? Yeah the early stuff is sort of thrashy death metal, and their debut is sort of gothy but Idk if it that much into the genre to warrent a change, I'll get someone to look into it for a second opinion.



I'm torn between using "Electronic Black Metal" or "Black Metal/Chiptune", but then I realized that all off the electronic parts are sampled. That album is highly questionable, I don't even know if this band should even be allowed on the site as the riffs just sound like supplementary bits to the NES tunes, which are just ripped from Zelda from the sounds of it. I'll change it, but I'm going to look into it to see if it even warrants staying on the site.

Understood, thank you for your reply.

Hi,

I think the band Nexdeus plays simple melodic black metal, I couldn't find any 'progressive' elements in their music.
Genre should be changed imho.

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Nexdeus/3540425806

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RGRi2mDC90

I'd also like to bump some previous genre changes I've suggested;

Mahakala http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Mahakala/111593
According to their latest album, The Second Fall http://mahakalaband.bandcamp.com/album/ ... l-smc-2017 , I'd says it's rather Heavy Metal with some Doom influences, but not Sludge/Doom Metal.

Also I'm still waiting for your final decision for the poor Belgian Emptiness.

So Gates of Doom is listed as epic death metal, but all I'm hearing is power metal with death metal vocals. Samples:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIH48HmVGJQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGtcjmQyI58
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5nfa0W_ExU

EDIT: Also, my post about Rude Awakening might have been overlooked, or it might have been a problem that I forgot to link to the band page. Here's Rude Awakening.

Okay, let's get this festival started!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I can hear some Progressive bits in here, gonna compromise and do "Progressive/Melodic Black Metal"



Not good with Doom/sludge and others like that, going to leave that for someone else but yeah, Emptiness seemed to have been decided a while go it is just miscommunication that hasn't changed it. Changed. Idk that much about adding the 'experimental' tag. While post-metal label can be misleading cus it can either mean like more shoegazey or more sludgy fare, I think the label fits as it is. Sort of has the shoegazey bits in it anyways.


On Gates of Doom: I can hear a good amount of power metal but it also seems to cross over into Melodeath range. Gonna change it into "Melodic Death/Power Metal", I don't think it is just power metal with harsh vocals.

Rude Awakening: The songs you linked was almost exclusively from their third original album. I did some listening to songs off Silent Cry and Headbutter, and those are pretty much heavy/power metal. That album you linked is definitely like power/groove metal.

Mahakala taken care of.

Thank you, PDS and Azmodes!

Cross posting from report queue; apparently this band's tags are way off: https://www.metal-archives.com/report/v ... 1/show/all

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/He ... ence/85024

RED RAW (JPN)
Listed as Heavy/Thrash/Death Metal. They play Southern metal w/ horror punk overtones. Not sure what you want to do with it but there's no death metal here, and hardly any groove-less thrash.

Latest EP (samples): https://www.amazon.com/3rd-BLOOD-RED-RA ... A625150011

Live songs off of the debut EP (not bad quality):
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqMAJaVe7nc
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlYQRj0I-To

My subjective analysis is that this is mallcore.

Holy...wow. Power metal? This is like SOiL-type groovy mallcore, through just listening to that one song linked.

Die Vorboten is listed as Death/Folk metal, it sounds like melodic industrial/electronic metal to me. Their two EPs not listed on their bandcamp sound similar.

https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Di ... 3540327735

https://dievorboten.bandcamp.com/album/aufschrei

The first EP was what Folky death iirc, but yeah, they basically became Rammstein. Not even that much metal in here.

Hertz and Silence: You! Machine / Bio]Un[Logical

First one it's like a cross between Burn My Eyes & Chaos A.D.
Bio]Un[Logical adds nü-metal to the groovy sound.

Perhaps Groove Metal (early), Nu-Metal (later) fits?

Drowning Hope is currently listed as "Dark Ambient (early), Black Metal (later)" but the two last releases are back to being dark ambient so it would probably be best if the genre was just "Black Metal, Dark Ambient".

The 2 most recent releases: Eternal Chaos, Shadows Close to Me

Done.

I want to bring up the Czech band Trist. They're listed as "Doom/Black", but I can't hear any doom metal elements anywhere. It's straight depressive black metal. Just very monotonous like. Or is there some crucial material that I'm missing?

The band's genre was brought into question in reports, but not very convincingly.

https://www.metal-archives.com/report/view/id/364710
https://www.metal-archives.com/report/view/id/401150

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eN3tjXJvNbA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5e5rj6aTWw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIGGiS33j_A