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Cthulhu_Fhtagn
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 3:38 am 
 

I'm generally not one to question the blacklist, but may I ask why Silent Difference (Japan) is blacklisted? If it's metalcore, it doesn't sound like any metalcore I've heard before.
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PDS
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 3:52 am 
 

Blacklisted for being a Touhou band. Basically, a glorified cover band based around the music from the Touhou series, none of the songs have an original basis and are just re-arragements of songs written by ZUN.
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Cthulhu_Fhtagn
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 4:07 am 
 

PDS wrote:
Blacklisted for being a Touhou band. Basically, a glorified cover band based around the music from the Touhou series, none of the songs have an original basis and are just re-arragements of songs written by ZUN.


Ok, that makes sense. I didn't know they had no original material, thanks!
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erezfb
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Joined: Fri Jun 02, 2017 5:51 am
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 5:33 am 
 

Hello dear admins :)
You've regected my band Erez.FB because there is no music published
but there is:

https://erezfb.bandcamp.com/releases

Now what should I do?

Erez.

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TheStormIRide
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 9:51 am 
 

erezfb wrote:
Hello dear admins :)
You've regected my band Erez.FB because there is no music published
but there is:

https://erezfb.bandcamp.com/releases

Now what should I do?

Erez.


Just resubmit and be sure to include the link with your submission.
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FearAbsentia
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 2:56 am 
 

FearAbsentia wrote:
OpsiusCato wrote:
Blacklist note says it's mallcore. There's not date, so the note must be somewhat old. Which one of those albums is the one would pass as acceptable?


All the videos linked are from their more recent material. I would say the The Brutal Language, Throat Full of Heart, and A Southern Revelation would be the most acceptable releases though. The band has those releases available for free download on their Bandcamp: https://myruin.bandcamp.com/music


Was any decision made about them yet?
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BananaSuitMassacre
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 7:30 am 
 

Please reconsider The User Lives as being metal as their full length was released today.

Album stream: https://youtu.be/J-mxGmSBBMQ

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MetalCuresHeadaches
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 7:47 am 
 

OpsiusCato wrote:
I wouldn't know which release got them blacklisted, but it was back in Februrary this year... So the answer will be "anything released before February 2017"


Well, these two were released on 28 Feb 2017, so I don't know if that was considered in there or not. These both seem acceptable, compared to the other ambient releases he's put out:

-Nature Above Man
-Supra​-​Satanic Sovereignty

For comparison sake, the rest of his discography:
-Modulus Of Destruction (30 Jan. 2017)
-Throne Of Ha​-​Satan (split with Satanicommnd, 30 Jan. 2017)
-Anti​-​Escória Black Metal (31 Mar. 2017)
-Zerkleinern Der Unteren Technologie (31 Mar. 2017)

All albums listed here were released digitally, and on 20-copy CDr runs by CVLMINIS Records.
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NARAKU666
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 10:33 am 
 

Hey guys, why Hands That Lift The Oceans is blacklisted? heres the bancamp page for their new album:

https://lifttheoceans.bandcamp.com/album/impetus-2
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S9NE
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 12:24 pm 
 

NARAKU666 wrote:
Hey guys, why Hands That Lift The Oceans is blacklisted? heres the bancamp page for their new album:

https://lifttheoceans.bandcamp.com/album/impetus-2

Edit: Actually, now that the album is available on Bandcamp and I'm listening to it again, it feels like there's way more metal material than I remembered. I think they deserve getting whitelisted.

As for the blacklisting, it's because their demo only had 4 minutes of metal on the second track. I know this because I tried submitting them when they released the demo.
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EpicDismemberment
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 10:33 am 
 

EpicDismemberment wrote:
Hi
Crawl from San Antonio, Texas has released its new album.
https://crawl.bandcamp.com/album/this-sad-cadavr

Acceptable or not?

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darthrya
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 12:20 pm 
 

Does anyone know where I can find a list of all blacklisted bands?

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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 12:21 pm 
 

It isn't public, although if you put a band name into a submission it usually gives you a prompt, or you can ask here about something specific and/or why.
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perzine
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 8:29 pm 
 

perzine wrote:
Could Intrinsic Light be whitelisted on the basis of the higher metalness quotient in their latest release?

https://intrinsiclight.bandcamp.com/album/in-the-world

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JohnnyAaltonen
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2017 11:42 pm 
 

Hey!

My band member (who's really good in english plus in reading rules) tried to submit a crappy phone made demo million times here which made our band (Organ Grinder FIN) banned here.
We released last weekend a proper EP and I would want it to be included into Metal Archieves if it's possible. Cheers!!!

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 8:13 am 
 

I have no idea what to make of this new Mutoid Man album. I guess I could go either way...? Need to listen more.

FearAbsentia wrote:
[My Ruin]

eh, seems mostly like sludgy redneck rock + nu-metal.

BananaSuitMassacre wrote:
Please reconsider The User Lives as being metal as their full length was released today.

Album stream: https://youtu.be/J-mxGmSBBMQ

I've only skimmed it, but sounds like the blacklisting from May this year still applies.

MetalCuresHeadaches wrote:
OpsiusCato wrote:
I wouldn't know which release got them blacklisted, but it was back in Februrary this year... So the answer will be "anything released before February 2017"


Well, these two were released on 28 Feb 2017, so I don't know if that was considered in there or not. These both seem acceptable, compared to the other ambient releases he's put out:

-Nature Above Man
-Supra​-​Satanic Sovereignty

For comparison sake, the rest of his discography:
-Modulus Of Destruction (30 Jan. 2017)
-Throne Of Ha​-​Satan (split with Satanicommnd, 30 Jan. 2017)
-Anti​-​Escória Black Metal (31 Mar. 2017)
-Zerkleinern Der Unteren Technologie (31 Mar. 2017)

All albums listed here were released digitally, and on 20-copy CDr runs by CVLMINIS Records.

I'm not exactly impressed, but I'll whitelist this for reevaluation/a more thorough assessment.

NARAKU666 wrote:
Hey guys, why Hands That Lift The Oceans is blacklisted? heres the bancamp page for their new album:

https://lifttheoceans.bandcamp.com/album/impetus-2

It's close, but whitelisted.

EpicDismemberment wrote:
Hi
Crawl from San Antonio, Texas has released its new album.
https://crawl.bandcamp.com/album/this-sad-cadavr

Acceptable or not?

I'd say no, sludgy noise.

perzine wrote:
perzine wrote:
Could Intrinsic Light be whitelisted on the basis of the higher metalness quotient in their latest release?

https://intrinsiclight.bandcamp.com/album/in-the-world

Metal or not, considering the recording quality, it's probably not an acceptable digital release anyway. Best to wait for a proper studio full-length.

JohnnyAaltonen wrote:
Hey!

My band member (who's really good in english plus in reading rules) tried to submit a crappy phone made demo million times here which made our band (Organ Grinder FIN) banned here.
We released last weekend a proper EP and I would want it to be included into Metal Archieves if it's possible. Cheers!!!

Link? Be aware that the band was actually blacklisted for musical reasons, not because of the release.
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MetalCuresHeadaches
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:30 am 
 

Azmodes wrote:
I'm not exactly impressed, but I'll whitelist this for reevaluation/a more thorough assessment.


Ha-Satan submitted.
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Metantoine
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:44 am 
 

TSIR, Azmo and myself heard the Mutoid Man album and while there's metal elements, we don't think it's a definite metal album. There's a lot of punk, grunge and rock in there.
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thebigghostanimal
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 2:35 pm 
 

Hello!,
I love the work Encyclopaedia Metallum is doing - so, thank you for all this effort in the metal community, I love it!!!

I was going to list/submit my depressive black metal project here as well but it says it was rejected - Kotha (from Italy) - could you please tell me why?

I have a physical and a digital release - plus I think despite it may not be strictly black, it surely is "metal" enough :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFSuU2p5Eo8&t=10s


http://twwlfdistro.altervista.org/pro...

Release also available in all digital stores:
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/album/7r5iSf...
iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/it/album/xi/...
Amazon: http://a.co/gBEfSOa
Deezer: http://www.deezer.com/album/39715321


Thanks for your reply!!!

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OpsiusCato
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:44 pm 
 

thebigghostanimal wrote:
Kotha (from Italy)

Blacklisted in May this year, for being mostly electronic fuzz with no Metal riffing.
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DreamOfDarkness
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:12 pm 
 

The band Cause for Effect from Finland is blacklisted. I know they describe themselves as Jazz(fusion)/Grind (which is listed as not acceptable in the rules), but at least on their 2000 album "Fast Material" they still have a guitar player, less Jazz influences and definitely play riff-oriented music that I would describe as "metal".

See:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-cmf5BndvI

The rest of the album is done in a similar fashion.

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perzine
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 11:31 pm 
 

Azmodes wrote:
perzine wrote:
Could Intrinsic Light be whitelisted on the basis of the higher metalness quotient in their latest release?

https://intrinsiclight.bandcamp.com/album/in-the-world

Metal or not, considering the recording quality, it's probably not an acceptable digital release anyway. Best to wait for a proper studio full-length.


Fair call. The studio album that I put forward as a good example of their degree of metalness was knocked back for not being metal enough when I made the submission. Could I get a second opinion?

https://intrinsiclight.bandcamp.com/album/emptiness

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CBRVE
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:46 pm 
 

Why Lord Averno is blacklisted?

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 5:39 am 
 

Ambient.
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raspberrysoda
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:26 am 
 

Can you guys reevaluate Cave In? I haven't seen any posts here regarding them. Despite their later material being alt rock, their early material is the more metallic style of metalcore
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stevetehgreate
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:52 am 
 

Hello there why is the band Soul Cycle blacklisted?

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 8:09 am 
 

raspberrysoda wrote:
Can you guys reevaluate Cave In? I haven't seen any posts here regarding them. Despite their later material being alt rock, their early material is the more metallic style of metalcore

The blacklist note is pretty old and useless. Do you have any links to the release(s) you think qualify/ies?

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Hello there why is the band Soul Cycle blacklisted?

Djent.
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raspberrysoda
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 8:26 am 
 

Azmodes wrote:
The blacklist note is pretty old and useless. Do you have any links to the release(s) you think qualify/ies?




this one too
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Azmodes
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My first impression is that it's pretty metallic, but that this doesn't constitute the core sound.
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raspberrysoda
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 8:56 am 
 

Azmodes wrote:
but that this doesn't constitute the core sound.


It sure doesn't, but since I've noticed that bands that play in the same metallica style of metalcore were added only a few years ago, I've thought that Cave In would pass. Their compilation is a bit more metallic, but their first full length seems like it's on the metal side of core as well.
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MutantClannfear
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:18 am 
 

I think what Azmodes meant is that metal doesn't make up the majority of the sound of the albums you linked. I was confused when I first read it too. :scratch:
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:25 am 
 

Sorry if that came across as confusing. I simply meant that metal doesn't seem to be the basis of their music, i.e. the core sound (not to be confused with the -core sound, though in this case the two appear to be the same :P).
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 10:38 am 
 

DreamOfDarkness wrote:
The band Cause for Effect from Finland is blacklisted. I know they describe themselves as Jazz(fusion)/Grind (which is listed as not acceptable in the rules), but at least on their 2000 album "Fast Material" they still have a guitar player, less Jazz influences and definitely play riff-oriented music that I would describe as "metal".

See:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-cmf5BndvI

The rest of the album is done in a similar fashion.

I just checked out this album and I don't think it's acceptable. Primarily jazzy grind noodling.
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CBRVE
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 3:49 pm 
 

Azmodes wrote:
Ambient.


Is pure Black Metal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=San5gGqFk2Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f0Eld0Qb5s

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Erosion of Humanity
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 5:57 pm 
 

We don't judge based on live recordings, and half the split is ambient.
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Frank Booth
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 9:24 pm 
 

Someone tried to have Exist reevaluated like four years ago when Sunlight dropped and I recall that someone here said that they would give it a listen and then never got around to it. Now that there's a new one out, can someone reevaluate them for real? Yeah, there's definitely a lot of later-era Cynic-sounding stuff, but there's also more than enough death metal to balance it out to at least a 60/40 distribution. You can listen to both full-lengths here:

https://exist.bandcamp.com/

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Azmodes
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Just saying that Sunlight was evaluated, because the blacklist note includes a mention about it also being unacceptable. Also, this refers to that album.

Anyway, I'll check the new one out soon. EDIT: Nah, same ol', same ol'.
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Cudnoredje
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 8:22 am 
 

not sure if this is right topic for this (redirect me if i'm wrong),
but can you please tell me do you consider this band acceptable to add?

https://throattwister.bandcamp.com/album/cold-images

if you say "no", you'll spare me of effort in trying to fill all band adding sections, thank you.

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Cudnoredje wrote:
not sure if this is right topic for this (redirect me if i'm wrong),
but can you please tell me do you consider this band acceptable to add?

https://throattwister.bandcamp.com/album/cold-images

if you say "no", you'll spare me of effort in trying to fill all band adding sections, thank you.

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perzine
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 9:20 am 
 

Azmodes wrote:
perzine wrote:
Could Intrinsic Light be whitelisted on the basis of the higher metalness quotient in their latest release?

https://intrinsiclight.bandcamp.com/album/in-the-world

Metal or not, considering the recording quality, it's probably not an acceptable digital release anyway. Best to wait for a proper studio full-length.


Fair call. The studio album that I put forward as a good example of their degree of metalness was knocked back for not being metal enough when I made the submission. Could I get a second opinion?

https://intrinsiclight.bandcamp.com/album/emptiness

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