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Erosion of Humanity
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 8:04 am 
 

As it stands we do hold digital only bands to a bit higher standard on things like this. The policy is mostly to keep people from slapping together some complete drivel and tossing it up on bandcamp just to get their band on the site. Yeah, it sounds a little crazy but that does happen, more than you'd think. So in this case it was decided that the length plus the rough recording were not enough at this time. Remember that rejection and blacklisting aren't permanent, once a band releases new material they can be brought up for discussion again.
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Goatfangs
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:38 pm 
 

Between the Buried and Me.
Automata part 1.
It is metal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq8u0uDK61E

not that my opinion matters too much but it really sounds like they shed their metalcore and mathcore elements. Riffs abound on this one.
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Derigin
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:22 pm 
 

We will do an assessment. Though, admittedly, since it's only the first of two parts slated for release this year, I'd be tempted to wait until the second one is released before making any substantive judgment on it. But that's just a personal point of view. We'll still discuss this among staff.

(Also damn dude, does it always have to be you?)
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Dennisahman
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 2:43 pm 
 

Why is the band ODCULT blacklisted?
There is no history at all on this site regarding the band.

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MasterOfSin
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 3:09 pm 
 

Dennisahman wrote:
Why is the band ODCULT blacklisted?
There is no history at all on this site regarding the band.


Hi,
Blacklisted in 2015 for the reason Hard rock.
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VaderGrim
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:01 pm 
 

Hello,

Tried to submit a band "Ezov" but got it rejected due to the fact that someone else already submitted it. However, the submission was done citing an incorrect release (goes against the "official albums only" rule?), citing bandcamp as the official demo release and not the tape release by War Productions. Thus, the cited release is missing information (such as the B-side track information etc.).

Can this "inaccurate" submission be replaced with my submission, or is it better to go in an completely revise all the information in the accepted submission?

Regards.

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Erosion of Humanity
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:02 pm 
 

Firstly it is not an incorrect submission, bandcamp is perfectly acceptable here so long as everything else matches our criterion. As for your other question, no, we will not delete the other submission, these things happen from time to time. Please either fill out as much information as you can (with your rank) or flag a report with the correct information and sources.
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VaderGrim
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:36 pm 
 

Alright, thanks for the reply. Is there a way to change so that the physical tape release is shown first instead of the "bandcamp-release"? Also, I can´t find a way of correcting the tape release cover, so I´ve submitted a report instead.

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Zodijackyl
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 10:57 pm 
 

VaderGrim wrote:
Is there a way to change so that the physical tape release is shown first instead of the "bandcamp-release"?


Yes, I fixed that. It only takes one click for a staffer to do this, in case anyone ever find themself wondering.

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cranial crusher
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 2:21 pm 
 

Please, why and when was Astrodome (Portugal) blacklisted?
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GuardAwakening
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 2:21 pm 
 

Can $lutrot be taken off the blacklist now? They were blacklisted not for music, but because some idiot kept trying to add them while ignoring rules that they didnt have a valid release
However, they now FINALLY have a CD released out on Pathologically Explicit Recordings

Front cover of CD
Backside

here is a quote from a very old post months earlier in the thread

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I am requesting to whitelist $LUTROT

They were blacklisted because some dumbshit kid kept trying to add them over and over ignoring that they had no proper release (they're a raw slam death metal band), however, they are about to get included on a split that is getting released on cassette tape

The split can be heard over here https://pestilent.bandcamp.com/album/lam-eason

And some more of their other material (that was released as digital only) can be heard over here https://slutrot.bandcamp.com/releases

Here is the news about the split coming out on tape https://www.facebook.com/PestilentSLAM/ ... 05/?type=3

So with all this said, can a admin now be kind enough to remove them from the blacklist so I can get started on writing their entry? I will submit it when the tape comes out.


Azmodes replied to this by saying "post again when the split comes out"
Seeing as they now have a physical release, i think it's fair to get whats promised now

And for further reference, here is what their music sounds like if it's necessary to include this. it's just slam (brutal death metal), which is acceptable
https://slutrot.bandcamp.com/

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EzraBlumenfeld
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 3:12 pm 
 

When/why was Dissimulator from Washington blacklisted?
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albumposting
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 3:16 pm 
 

EzraBlumenfeld wrote:
When/why was Dissimulator from Washington blacklisted?

This is only a guess, but I'm willing to bet that they were blacklisted because they weren't considered "metal" enough. I know the band's music well, and it's not the style that's generally accepted here.
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PDS
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 3:18 pm 
 

$lutrot is whitelisted.

EzraBlumenfeld wrote:
When/why was Dissimulator from Washington blacklisted?


2014, more -core than metal.

Apistevist wrote:
This is only a guess, but I'm willing to bet that they were blacklisted because they weren't considered "metal" enough. I know the band's music well, and it's not generally the style that's accepted here.


Please leave the responses to the mods, thank you. Nothing against you, this thread just isn't one for discussion.
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MasterOfSin
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 3:26 pm 
 

cranialcrusherabc wrote:
Please, why and when was Astrodome (Portugal) blacklisted?

Hi,
Blacklisted in february 2017 for being a Rock band, if they have new material and if is metal you can apply to whitelist.
Thank you
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cranial crusher
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:31 pm 
 

Ok, thank you!
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piggygrind
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 8:42 am 
 

Buen día, alguien me puede ayudar para salir de la lista negra y poder agregar mi banda por favor?

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EzraBlumenfeld
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 1:21 pm 
 

Why/when were Dredge from Iowa and The Gorge from Missouri blacklisted?

I'd also like to repeal the Close the Hatch blacklisting with this release: https://closethehatch.bandcamp.com/album/vi
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 1:38 pm 
 

piggygrind wrote:
Buen día, alguien me puede ayudar para salir de la lista negra y poder agregar mi banda por favor?

Inglés, por favor. The band (if you mean Piggy) is currently blacklisted for being non-metal goregrind in the vein of Last Days of Humanity. If there have been any new releases since 2016 that you think sound more metal, please provide links.

EzraBlumenfeld wrote:
Why/when were Dredge from Iowa blacklisted?

"sludgy djent-core"

EzraBlumenfeld wrote:
I'd also like to repeal the Close the Hatch blacklisting with this release: https://closethehatch.bandcamp.com/album/vi

I'll check it out later.
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EzraBlumenfeld
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 1:40 pm 
 

Azmodes wrote:
EzraBlumenfeld wrote:
Why/when were Dredge from Iowa blacklisted?

"sludgy djent-core"


Were they evaluated for this release? Seems pretty damn metal to me, but we'll see.
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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 1:46 pm 
 

The blacklisting is from 2017, so probably.
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Wargnattallfihrr
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:23 am 
 

Hi guys,

I'm commenting on two rejeceted band submissions of mine - I dug up some more listening material in one case and additional proof of existence in the other case:

EvilZ (Chn) (submission rejected on Dec. 2nd, 2017)
In addition to the already provided discogs link (https://www.discogs.com/de/EvilZ-Abaddon/master/872883), here's the info on duoban for both versions of the demo:
https://music.douban.com/subject/3670293/
https://music.douban.com/subject/3450947/
There's also this last.fm link, but I don't know if there are more samples behind it: https://www.last.fm/music/EvilZ/Abaddon
And, as a final thing, this chinese streaming site: http://www.xiami.com/artist/cxAL28821?s ... 3.9.zA02W1

Now about Robert Rodrigo (Esp) (submission rejected Mar. 8th, 2018):
You asked about a way to listen to 'Wrath' in full, so I dug up some more:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007P ... B007PMBHQ2
https://itunes.apple.com/bz/album/wrath/524147095

Maybe you can work with that - thanks for your time.

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Mole666
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 3:14 pm 
 

Could i get someone to have a second/look/listen to my submission for the band Catalysis as I am struggling to understand why they were rejected?

They sound Metal enough to be considered, mixing a blend of thrash and groove metal with the slightest influence of metalcore.

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Erosion of Humanity
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:07 pm 
 

Can you provide links to the music?
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theunrelentingattack
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 8:26 am 
 

Gents, seems like Tyson from Germany is blacklisted. Here's a link to the new album which is firmly planted in the Melodic Thrash/Groove Metal realm.

https://heavyweightmusic.bandcamp.com/a ... nbreakable
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Rich Evans
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 10:21 am 
 

Hi!

I want to whitelist Serpens Exitiale. They have been blacklisted, presumably for lacking evidence of a discography. Now that there is a bandcamp for them at https://serpensexitiale.bandcamp.com/releases I see no reason to keep blacklisting that band

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TheStormIRide
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 10:52 am 
 

Rich Evans wrote:
Hi!

I want to whitelist Serpens Exitiale. They have been blacklisted, presumably for lacking evidence of a discography. Now that there is a bandcamp for them at https://serpensexitiale.bandcamp.com/releases I see no reason to keep blacklisting that band


Whitelisted.

theunrelentingattack wrote:
Gents, seems like Tyson from Germany is blacklisted. Here's a link to the new album which is firmly planted in the Melodic Thrash/Groove Metal realm.

https://heavyweightmusic.bandcamp.com/a ... nbreakable


Whitelisted.
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SimoneDio88
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 4:43 pm 
 

TheStormIRide wrote:
TheEgo wrote:
Hi all,
I've added Simone Dionisi (https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Si ... 3540427730) and he has been rejected because "A band needs a valid release before they can be accepted to the site".

As rule:
"DIGITAL-ONLY RELEASES: Include links to sites like Bandcamp, iTunes, Amazon, etc, to where the release can be purchased or downloaded."

As follow the prove: the Album Enhancement on Bandcamp:

https://simonedionisi.bandcamp.com/album/enhancement

It's enough and I can resubmit ? or is not a valid prove ?

Thank you,
Diego


Go ahead and resubmit. Be sure to include the links in the submission notes.


Hello, I'm Simone Dionisi and I recently tried to insert my solo project as a band, but I discovered I'm on the blacklist.
I did a search on the forum and I read your comments, so if I understood the solution is try again, including links to digital versions. However I did not understand how to insert those in the module, moreover, since the warning message remains active, I'm not continuing for not create any problems. Would you have any suggestions to give me please?

Thank you for all, I await your reply and thank Diego for trying to add me.
See you soon.

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YourGodIsDead
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 9:02 pm 
 

I just had my submission rejected a second time (first time due to insufficient proof of digital release) because the band is allegedly not a metal band. If this isn't Melodic Death Metal, then what is it?

Nordjarvi - Lakewind Whispers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNzy3bHH ... f5DyhPoEIa

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Mole666
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 3:42 am 
 

Erosion of Humanity wrote:
Can you provide links to the music?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIJ10ULwVog

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-nS8Ao7stg

https://open.spotify.com/album/2p83oHg6 ... medium=sms

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Ormagoden
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:50 am 
 

Hi everyone,

I was just looking for some info on Skyharbor (India/USA) on this site, but couldn't find a band page, which surprised me, as they have two full-lengths and a couple of singles out and a new release schedules this year. I searched the forums and found just one post regarding the band itself stating that it was blacklisted in 2013. Is that still valid? If so, why?

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PDS
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 6:51 pm 
 

Ormagoden wrote:
Hi everyone,

I was just looking for some info on Skyharbor (India/USA) on this site, but couldn't find a band page, which surprised me, as they have two full-lengths and a couple of singles out and a new release schedules this year. I searched the forums and found just one post regarding the band itself stating that it was blacklisted in 2013. Is that still valid? If so, why?


Was blacklisted in 2013 for being Djent/rock. Is there any new album that can be screened?

YourGodIsDead wrote:
I just had my submission rejected a second time (first time due to insufficient proof of digital release) because the band is allegedly not a metal band. If this isn't Melodic Death Metal, then what is it?

Nordjarvi - Lakewind Whispers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNzy3bHH ... f5DyhPoEIa


Blacklisted for being more -core than metal. I just listened to the EP and yeah, it is basically melodic metalcore/post-hardcore with occasional metal riffing and soloing.
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PDS wrote:
Ormagoden wrote:
Was blacklisted in 2013 for being Djent/rock. Is there any new album that can be screened?


Oh, okay. Well, there kind of is, but even though I haven't heard their first album yet, the style will probably be not too far off. I hadn't noticed this earlier, but I just found out that bands such as Periphery, Tesseract and Mnemic don't appear to be accepted, either. (Although The HAARP Machine seems to be fine?) I'm not a sub-genre connoisseur myself, but I'd highly question that "Djent" is even a real thing. On the other hand, judging by the posts I just found on related artists, I'd recommend the mods to rethink the meaning of the word "progressive" as in artists generally considered as "Progessive Metal". Going into the future, the genre will contain more bands than just Dream Theater and Symphony X. (This is not meant as an offense, but simply as another point of view.)

Since this is not my site after all, I guess I'll just have to get my info somewhere else, then. I suppose farewell for now, the best of luck with whatever you're trying to do.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:07 am 
 

I have noticed, that the Swiss band Rated X was deleted from the site and blacklisted, presumably for being hard rock. While it is true, that the first two albums were hard rock, the third one, named Words, was actually thrash metal in the style of Metallica and similar bands. was this taken in consideration? Link to the full album on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rR3wLu ... pclGBg0Dpm

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TheStormIRide
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:19 am 
 

Witcher wrote:
I have noticed, that the Swiss band Rated X was deleted from the site and blacklisted, presumably for being hard rock. While it is true, that the first two albums were hard rock, the third one, named Words, was actually thrash metal in the style of Metallica and similar bands. was this taken in consideration? Link to the full album on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rR3wLu ... pclGBg0Dpm


Wasn't quite expecting that! It's still has a lot of rock vibes, but it certainly warrants another listen. It was deleted long enough ago that we can just restore it, so, it's been white listed. Go ahead and resubmit and we'll reevaluate once it's in the queue.
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cranial crusher
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 3:53 pm 
 

TheStormIRide wrote:
cranialcrusherabc wrote:


The little bit I checked out warrants a reevaluation, at the very least. Whitelisted. Go ahead and submit when you're ready.


Is it still blacklisted?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:44 pm 
 

Was Mindrippa (Australia) rejected solely because it only had a digital release that was less than 20 minutes in length, or were there other reasons? The rejection email was quite broad.

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cranialcrusherabc wrote:
Besta
Is it still blacklisted?


I removed it from the blacklist and someone else submitted it. It was then deemed to be too borderline, so it was put back on the blacklist.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 5:43 am 
 

Hello! I noticed the band i was trying to add (Silver Dust) was blacklisted, i get that it was my mistake to forget to provide proofs of the releases and music samples so here they are:


Releases:

https://itunes.apple.com/ch/album/the-age-of-decadence/id1086974205?l=fr (Itunes)

https://musique.fnac.com/a10747610/Silver-Dust-The-Age-Of-Decadence-CD-album (Fnac, it's a physical copy but unfortunately they don't have it in stock at my local mall at the moment, so i can't take a picture of it, i hope the links will be enough)

Music samples:

So Let Me Now: (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6niTuuKhr0)
Heaven Knows: (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpnQnGhWuJc)

Some tracks can also be listened to in the Itunes link i provided above.

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cranial crusher
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:19 am 
 

Hmm, I see. Well, thank you then.
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