Yup, finally started on the full album now that it's out and it def leans more metal than hardcore. To me it's just blackend thrash somethingorother.

Yes, this was discussed some weeks ago. We'll check it out, give us time. I was aware of the release date.

EDIT: removed from the blacklist.

Sorry, but you're wrong.

The tape and tracklist is here:

http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Ne ... rte/645838

1.- Exaltación heroica (Ayapin)
2.- Resistencia pagana del norte ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6B0frWRNjc )
3.- Memorias del viento
4.- Hanblecheyapi
5.- Incursión guerrera
6.- Wodziwob

I can accept being wrong on that, the different cover art on the video threw me as I was operating by memory. However, I stand by my judgement. If you need further reasoning, I'd be happy to explain.

I'll ask one last time if someone can see if they can unblacklist Lord Effluvia. There's a few similar (admittedly way better) bands on here that are just as far into noise and ambient as my stuff is. Wold's just noise with black metal undertones, Heirdrains more drone then black metal especially on his newer releases, and lots of DSBM bands are more of a proto rock then metal, best example being Trist (very simplistic and primitive, guess that's what makes them Doom?) and Lifelover (essentially a rock band in the vein of Katatonia with obvious black metal influences and overtones.) I mean even Sleeps on here and while they're legends and all, everything after Volume One is basically hard rock. Not sure where you guys draw the line, I've been told it has to have metal riffing, which if Trist does I probably do, and be more metal then the other elements which just doesn't hold up for a ton of bands on here. I understand that some of these bands are just massive influences on metal and metal culture, but others are plain silly, almost as silly as my music. Basically my case is a lot of bands with just a few metal elements are and have been on here for years and no one seems to mind, so it shouldn't be a massive deal with my stuff.

Sorry for the rant and if I came off as condescending at all, I'd just like to get this resolved.

Oh and if poor qualities the issue, just look at Darkness Enshroud or any other lo-fi bedroom black metal project

^ You may wanna read this first because you don't seem to understand how the site works:

Hello!
http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/The ... 3540426883
Release - https://play.google.com/store/music/alb ... ihljkjt43a
Please add the band. I don't understand where to add links to releases.

1) don't compare bands
2) if you think bands are unjustly archived here feel free to bring them up for deletion.
3) you're not going to reason or justify your band into the archives. If it's metal or not is all we care.

This is too short for a digital release. Is there somewhere to buy physical copies?

https://toxiclolirecords.bandcamp.com/album/goregy

Why is "schoolgirl upon thy corpse" blacklisted? sounds like brutal death to me and they have a physical release.

More goregrind/noise than BDM.

There are no physical copies.
The single contains only 3 songs.
iTunes - https://itunes.apple.com/ru/album/playi ... 11005?l=en
Yes you have full groups, where less than 20 minutes. For example, only one release:
http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Fr ... cle/649280 (19 minutes)
http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/So ... ion/644519 (19 minutes)
http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Ze ... ght/650210 (12 minutes)
http://www.metal-archives.com/albums/In ... ity/645285 (15 minutes)

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19 minutes is close enough.

The third one has a physical (cassette) release.

The fourth one is clearly a physical (CD) release.

Hey guys tried to submit the band Gutsack and was rejected for the following reason:

"A band needs a valid release before they can be accepted to the site"

I know the promo's lenght is about 4 minutes, but i attached a link with a picture of some of those CD-Rs, if not heres the link to post itself:

https://www.facebook.com/6gut6sack6/pho ... =3&theater

I wanted to inquire as to why the band Isonomist (United States) was rejected?

Thank you for your time.

Gutsack: Questionable release. We'll discuss it.

Isonomist: Djent.

Hello, fellow metalheads.

I tried to write a review for the album V by Scale The Summit, which is a Texas-based progressive metal group (similar to Dream Theater, but fully instrumental). However, upon noticing that Scale The Summit is completely unlisted, I tried to submit it as a band. Apparently, it's blacklisted from the U.S., which happens to be my location.

So I'd like to respectfully ask that Scale The Summit be un-blacklisted, as I believe that this is an error.

-Jonathan

Hello, the band Opalized i have submitted has been rejected because of non being a metal band. However this is pure metalcore and melodic death metal, so i don't understand.

Hello,

I submitted the band Stone Goats which got rejected for "not being a metal band (just rock)".
So I read the site rules carefully and I don't really understand your decision.
All right, this is not classic heavy nor thrash but Stoner... and a lot of stoner bands are listed (I won't compare even if it would be easy).

Did anyone from the staff listen to more than the introductions of the songs?

If you would like to have a second judgment, here are a few links:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJU0ydlBano
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e57uYvG8TLs&t=154s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLA4VCTeIjM

And this one is to prove the existence of the CD's
https://www.facebook.com/22558358753627 ... =3&theater
This CD had a small review in the Rock Hard Magazine (French edition)...

Thank you for your attention and patience!

Blacklisted as alternative/prog rock. Also see viewtopic.php?p=1854972#p1854972


I didn't listen to it, but apparently it's borderline -core and one mod was unsure, the other thought it wasn't metal.


Apparently the majority of the tracks listened to by the rejecting mod were rock. I'd be happy to offer a second opinion, but can you provide actual studio samples? We prefer to make our assessments based on those as opposed to live tracks.

The album is available on Bandcamp:
https://stonegoats.bandcamp.com/album/six-shots

Thank you. Based on those, I would also lean towards it being more rock than metal, though it is indeed quite borderline. I'd say wait for another release.

Thank you for giving a second opinion about Stone Goats.
We have recorded new tracks but I can't upload them now because they are only going to be released in a few months when the new video clip will be shot...

Still, I am surprised that bands like Spiritual Beggars or Audrey Horne are not considered as just rock then.

Have a nice evening!
I guess I'll try submitting again when we release the new songs.

To clarify, new songs alone aren't enough for a reevaluation. It would have to be a new release (ideally a full-length).

BTW, Spiritual Beggars have a number of unambiguously metal releases, even if their earlier material may be more stoner rock sometimes. Audrey Horne are listed as a non-metal exception.

Yes, tell me why? and your reasons, because the band is Pagan Black Metal with Black Metal riffs, physichal realeses on tape format.

If you mean Nexcoyotl, well, this is two ambient tracks and one metal track, hence not predominantly metal.

The band I represent was rejected at the weekend due to the EP being 'pre-order only' and not available until 15th May 2017. The digital version was available at the time the band was checked. The physical product is now available and the band website has been updated to reflect this. What is process to re-evaluate 'Wrath of the Gods' for submission to Metal Archives?

Resubmit with that picture included.

What blacklist notes says on Kurn and the Darkside from Indonesia? And what year it was blacklisted?

Grott was rejected for being a non-metal band.
Surely it has some hardcore elements (I mentioned in "genre" field), anyway I find here much more thrashy death metal.
Maybe if it could have (even) more overloaded guitars it should be treated as pure death/thrash.
Vocals, riffs, other stuff.
Old mods, please judge it.
Bandcamp

Quite frankly, it's insulting to ask for an "Older mod" to give a second opinion, like you somehow think newer mods aren't capable of getting it right. That isn't going to happen. Decisions are made as a team, as you well know, and I'm disappointed to hear this from you. Stop it. If it was rejected, it was rejected as a collective, which means the older mods also had a say in it.

Well, if you consider staff as a kind of a family, that's nice and then sorry for hurting you(r feelings), however I believe my words won't start corruption from mods against me.
And surely I do hope that newer mods were taken here as mods for being very competent, however do I have a civil right not to be agree with someone's opinion?
Should I in case of rejection humbly drop my head and delete a draft?
It was not rejected collectively, according to only one entry in moderators' notes. Thus I'm here to object in this thread.

I've got some kind of proud for being a part of this project, even just like a user (top-100 however ), so I do hope anyone's subjectivity won't make me log off....

And still waiting for older other mods opinion about Grott band

"Sorry, this band has been blacklisted by the moderation and can no longer be submitted.
If you think this is an error, please ask in this forum thread. Attempting to circumvent the blacklist is a bannable offense. Thank you."

i dont know why!
check the links! it's all clear!

Ok, let's answer this. Apology accepted, my feelings weren't hurt (You have to be thick skinned), but I took a certain vested grievance. Objecting or asking for clarity is and always will be acceptable. It's the way you asked for older mods opinions - whether intended or not this undermines the newer among us.

If you feel it was rejected in error, please ask for more info without asking for older mods to get involved. As for moderation notes? You've no way of seeing them, so that's pure speculation on your part.

hi all,

this is my first post, i was wondering why Poem from greece are blacklisted
it seems progressive metal or not?

mmm maybe they are prog rock?


http://poemband.com/discography/
bye

Say what you will and obviously it's you "in command" here, but this band is much more metal (riffs style, sound...all) than Evanescence and similar.

Also, those riffs are more metal than the ones of most "power metal" bands of the new eras (italian or not), or "symphonic metal" bands or "gothic metal" bands and similar which are in MA.

Everyone can listen some of their songs here or on Youtube (live versions also) and judge by theirself:

https://it-it.facebook.com/Gothic.Terebra

"More -core than metal", October 2014.


A fruitful first step with these questions is often considered to be telling us what the band's name is.


"modern grunge/prog rock", though the blacklisting is from 2012 or earlier. Is there a way to listen to the 2016 album in full?

That's not the first time I ask for the other moderators' opinion in case someone rejected "my" band.
As far as I know ones who have more experience in anything are more competent, so I honestly don't understand what's wrong.
And know what? Maybe in my country is an other culture and so things go other way, but I hope we won't start a flood about it here?..

Fine! I'm a liar now?
I just use "View update history" link to see how much moderators were involved in submission's conversation even before accepting the band.
So yes - I've no way of seeing them but I see they are.
And I see there was only one moderator, in this case.
Sometimes there are more than one strings from different moderators (I've seen even 4 once), I guess it means that style (and maybe other details) is being discussed by the stuff.
Unexpectedly?

Sorry! the name of the band is : The Sepia Livin'

No problem.

The blacklist note says that it sounds like "Staind meets AFI" and there is no valid proof of release either.