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Andre Gaius
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 5:44 pm 
 

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/ ... 2bd4738846
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http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/T%26N/3540378653

The guy didn't put spaces in the band name and it was not identified by the blacklist. LOL!

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 6:15 pm 
 

The system did not notice it, no. But we did. Because the full-length was initially submitted as a release from 2014, I assumed my blacklist entry was based on an earlier, shorter release, so I removed it from the blacklist and let the new submission be reviewed again. Turns out I was mistaken and there's only that one album out since 2012. *shrug* Borderline rock/metal, as I recall. I didn't (re-)check this one, another mod approved it in the end. Should be okay to keep it based on the Dokken connection anyway.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2014 7:10 pm 
 

Prakash Gupta wrote:
Respected sir...!!
i've included my bandcamp link also to buy full EP, this is evidence of my official release as the rule says i must have some physical evidence so their it is..

kindly inform me whats the wrong step in it..


I don't think you're reading the whole rejection. If this is only digital, then it needs to be at least 20 min in length to be considered a valid release. If there is a physical version, the length doesn't matter. It appears yours is digital only and around 14 minutes.
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TheGrimWombat
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 4:37 am 
 

theunrelentingattack wrote:

Re: Anarkitra - no blacklist reason given.


If this is the Anarkitran from Chile, I don't think they have a predominantly metal release. Good dudes, though.
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digothal
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 11:37 am 
 

hello, i'm a musician from indonesia. my band was blacklisted in metal-archives.com. but then that's band split up. i make a new band with the same name "Digothal" in April 2014. then i launched a full length called "The Unfinished Album" tonight on our website. can it make my band out of the "black List"? can it make my band be a band in metal-archives.com? this is the link of our release http://www.digothal.com/2014/04/digotha ... -full.html

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Contwee
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 7:58 pm 
 

ShitKill from the United States has been blacklisted for some reason.
We put out our self-titled debut in 2011 and distributed it DIY through our website, http://shitkill.com
We recorded it at Stratosphere Sound in NYC (run by James Iha from the Smashing Pumpkins), not a bedroom.
Here are some pictures of the physical release: http://imgur.com/M0VgTyo
Here is the link to order the physical copy of the CD: http://shop.shitkill.com/ShitKill-2011- ... SK2011.htm
Here is the link for the digital download of the album: http://shop.shitkill.com/ShitKill-2011- ... DD2011.htm
Here is a link to our Facebook page to prove our metalness: https://www.facebook.com/shitkill
Here is a ink to our profile on RocksOff.com (NYC's biggest independent promoter) http://rocksoff.com/shitkill
Let me know if there is an address I can send a physical CD to if needed - we are a real metal band.

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theunrelentingattack
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Contwee wrote:
ShitKill from the United States has been blacklisted for some reason.
We put out our self-titled debut in 2011 and distributed it DIY through our website, http://shitkill.com
We recorded it at Stratosphere Sound in NYC (run by James Iha from the Smashing Pumpkins), not a bedroom.
Here are some pictures of the physical release: http://imgur.com/M0VgTyo
Here is the link to order the physical copy of the CD: http://shop.shitkill.com/ShitKill-2011- ... SK2011.htm
Here is the link for the digital download of the album: http://shop.shitkill.com/ShitKill-2011- ... DD2011.htm
Here is a link to our Facebook page to prove our metalness: https://www.facebook.com/shitkill
Here is a ink to our profile on RocksOff.com (NYC's biggest independent promoter) http://rocksoff.com/shitkill
Let me know if there is an address I can send a physical CD to if needed - we are a real metal band.


You weren't blacklisted for not having a release, you were blacklisted for being more -core than metal.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:26 pm 
 

That is absolutely ridiculous, we are most certainly not a shitty core band. If you actually listened to our music you'd realize that is not true. First of all, we DESPISE music like that (any of that metalcore mall garbage like A7X) we started out as a thrash metal band, now we lie more in our groove - give this song a listen and you'll understand that we are not "core" anything. We are no more "core" than Slayer or Sepultura. I don't like to label sub-genres like that, but you can't honestly blacklist us for not being metal enough.
ShitKill - Destruction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8zMNn11Xik

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Contwee
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:37 pm 
 

If all you did was google our name and see that we have played shows with the Cro-Mags and DRI, you should really listen to us before you judge. Yes, we have played with some hardcore bands, but also Anvil, Six Feet Under, and Possessed among many others in metal. Again, I think putting a label like that on a band is always selling the music short, but if anything we play Thrash or Death Metal. Call it what you like, it's metal.

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deceivedchildren
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:18 am 
 

why Deef from Poland is on banned list ??? these songs comes from 7" single 1985.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBx7n2SEfHU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iD3NI-mFY4

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ZeppelinNL
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:38 am 
 

Is it possible to re-add a band who has released a metal album who have previously been rejected?
I'm talking about Stoma from the Netherlands who have been rejected for being bass/noise driven grindcore/goregrind but have since released a more 'normal' grindcore/goregrind album. If they are re-submitted, should the old releases be included as well?

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:50 am 
 

Contwee wrote:
If all you did was google our name and see that we have played shows with the Cro-Mags and DRI, you should really listen to us before you judge. Yes, we have played with some hardcore bands, but also Anvil, Six Feet Under, and Possessed among many others in metal. Again, I think putting a label like that on a band is always selling the music short, but if anything we play Thrash or Death Metal. Call it what you like, it's metal.



Calm down dude, I was just reading the blacklist note. We'll listen again.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:53 am 
 

Re: deef - listed as AOR more than metal. I'll check it out more this afternoon.
Re: stoma - post the link to the new album here so we can have a listen.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:15 am 
 

Thanks, I appreciate it. This song is more thrashy than the other one if it helps:
ShitKill-Pain Lord
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1hUQaXziJ0A
And just for the record, Cro-Mags and DRI are on this site and we are way more metal than them.

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Dr_Keloid
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 10:04 am 
 

theunrelentingattack wrote:
Re: deef - listed as AOR more than metal. I'll check it out more this afternoon.

They only had one unambiguously (and thoroughly great) metal song out of two 7" single releases.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 4:12 pm 
 

Re: Deef - I agree. From what I heard Dr_Keloid is right on the money. They'll stay on the blacklist. Sorry.
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digothal wrote:
hello, i'm a musician from indonesia. my band was blacklisted in metal-archives.com. but then that's band split up. i make a new band with the same name "Digothal" in April 2014. then i launched a full length called "The Unfinished Album" tonight on our website. can it make my band out of the "black List"? can it make my band be a band in metal-archives.com? this is the link of our release http://www.digothal.com/2014/04/digotha ... -full.html


No, sorry. This isn't metal.
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digothal
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:50 pm 
 

theunrelentingattack wrote:
digothal wrote:
hello, i'm a musician from indonesia. my band was blacklisted in metal-archives.com. but then that's band split up. i make a new band with the same name "Digothal" in April 2014. then i launched a full length called "The Unfinished Album" tonight on our website. can it make my band out of the "black List"? can it make my band be a band in metal-archives.com? this is the link of our release http://www.digothal.com/2014/04/digotha ... -full.html


No, sorry. This isn't metal.


if it's not metal, so what the genre call? coz i anybody said my band is not a pop band, it's not a hardcore band, it's not an electronic band, so could you tell me the genre of my band, so i can go to the right website to post my band :) but in my town anyone put my band in "folk metal" category

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Alhadis
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2014 11:43 pm 
 

According to the blacklist, Digothal was blacklisted because its album is mostly one 50-minute long ambient track with "other songs being interludes" (I'm guessing those interludes were the 'metallic' elements of the music?)

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digothal
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 1:44 am 
 

Alhadis wrote:
According to the blacklist, Digothal was blacklisted because its album is mostly one 50-minute long ambient track with "other songs being interludes" (I'm guessing those interludes were the 'metallic' elements of the music?)


it was. but now we have new release. with 7 songs and 2 intrumental track, its intrumental, not ambient, it's more like orchestra thn ambient
http://www.digothal.com/2014/04/digotha ... -full.html

i think we need to release live dvd to show everyone "we are metal band" :D
. in my town, my band only can play in metal event. no harcore/rock/pop event want us to play

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 8:11 am 
 

Yes, I painfully listened to the entire new record to determine it wasn't metal. It's not ambient anymore, that's for sure. Someone else can listen if they want though.
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Contwee wrote:
That is absolutely ridiculous, we are most certainly not a shitty core band. If you actually listened to our music you'd realize that is not true. First of all, we DESPISE music like that (any of that metalcore mall garbage like A7X) we started out as a thrash metal band, now we lie more in our groove - give this song a listen and you'll understand that we are not "core" anything. We are no more "core" than Slayer or Sepultura. I don't like to label sub-genres like that, but you can't honestly blacklist us for not being metal enough.
ShitKill - Destruction
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8zMNn11Xik


I'm removed Shitkill from the blacklist - go ahead and submit.
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ZeppelinNL
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 12:15 pm 
 

The full album 'The Glorification of Sexual Depravation' of Stoma:
http://open.spotify.com/album/5R7j09qOSXuzc6rP440RpH
Couldn't find a link of the full album anywhere else.
If this still is more noise than grindcore/goregrind, so be it :)

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Mythics
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2014 3:40 pm 
 

Hello,

At this moment, the French band Misery is still blacklisted. I can understand it was for their early releases when they only played dark ambient, but the band's last four releases (out of nine) have al been completely black metal. For a sample of each of these releases:

Black Crafted Elegies (2014)
http://filledemisere.blogspot.fr/2009/0 ... egies.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tToXJFUS5Y

Mélancolie (2013)
http://filledemisere.blogspot.fr/2009/0 ... colie.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNXah45Q6lI

For the Loss of Ghosts (2013)
http://filledemisere.blogspot.fr/2009/0 ... hosts.html

Lore (2013)
http://filledemisere.blogspot.fr/2009/09/lore.html


If you want more proof, I can also upload complete releases for you.

Regards,

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Mythics wrote:
Hello,

At this moment, the French band Misery is still blacklisted. I can understand it was for their early releases when they only played dark ambient, but the band's last four releases (out of nine) have al been completely black metal. For a sample of each of these releases:
Regards,

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Absolutely, they qualify now. I've unblacklisted them. You can submit.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 6:06 am 
 

Thank you! The band is submitted and added to the queue.

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Black Champion
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:03 am 
 

Why had been Presage band from Turkey blacklisted?

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:34 am 
 

Blacklist says it's alternative rock.
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Black Champion
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:47 am 
 

Azmodes wrote:
Blacklist says it's alternative rock.

Alternative rock? LOL. Please listen their album "Planet Hatred".

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Azmodes
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I'd be happy to. Provide links.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:59 am 
 

Here is my favorite songs from album
www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CVCs0SiKQA&amp ... =mv-google

www.youtube.com/watch?rl=yes&v=dtstgqcX ... l=tr&guid=

www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyzfsy8T1jg&amp ... =mv-google

www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bmv6jP2K0s&amp ... &guid=

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:28 am 
 

Agreed, sounds like metal for the most part. You can submit them.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 12:20 pm 
 

Thanks.

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Unitron
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 1:49 pm 
 

Hello,I have just joined,and I understand you're rules;however,I do not understand why "Porcupine Tree" has been blacklisted.Porcupine Tree is a Prog-Metal band with 3 pure metal albums and 2 pure metal EP's:In Absentia,Deadwing,Fear of a Blank Planet,Futile,and Nil Recurring.

and they have proved to be an important and influential part of the metal community,especially influential on bands like Opeth.

Here is a YouTube video of the whole "Fear of a Blank Planet"
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbXV-eMY9nc&list=ALNb4maWNoT6R8VyLThdEPUrIWqqKqdktK[/youtube]

and here "Strip the Soul"
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M08xwotJrT4[/youtube]

Hope you enjoy :)

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 1:56 pm 
 

I'm not quite up-to-date, but unless they released something radically different since "The Incident", Porcupine Tree are without a doubt a progressive rock band.

EDIT: Oh hey, turns out I am up-to-date.
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Unitron
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:22 pm 
 

I agree with "The Incident" being less metal-oriented,but can you give me some reasons why the albums I listed are not Prog-Metal?

That would be very helpful :)

Thanks,Unitron

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Azmodes
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:26 pm 
 

They do get heavy/somewhat metallic sometimes, but the vast majority of the music is rock-oriented. They don't have a consistently metal album, their music isn't based around metal riffs.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:37 pm 
 

Ok,I can agree with that.

It IS true that they don't remain consistent,being a pretty experimental band.

Sorry to bother you. :|

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Unitron
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Sorry for another post,I hope this doesn't seem rude. :)

I see that the band Haken is on this site,and Haken is very similar to Porcupine Tree.
Sorry if it seems like I'm trying to change minds,I'm just wanting to understand fully :)

Why is Haken on this site if Porcupine Tree isn't allowed?

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:00 pm 
 

Unitron wrote:
Sorry for another post,I hope this doesn't seem rude. :)

I see that the band Haken is on this site,and Haken is very similar to Porcupine Tree.
Sorry if it seems like I'm trying to change minds,I'm just wanting to understand fully :)

Why is Haken on this site if Porcupine Tree isn't allowed?

For questions about bands already on the site as well as cases for deletion, please use this thread. The current one we're in is for bands not yet/potentially never to be on here.
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