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Zelkiiro
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:54 am 
 

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Dead Leaves ruled SO FUCKING HARD! Literally bursting with style. I've got a million other things to check out but that was super fun. Thanks guys!

That's Hiroyuki Imaishi for ya. All the stuff he works on has that same unrestrained, anarchic feel to their animation.

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First episode of Michiko/Hatchin was strong. The music and directing definitely borrows from Bebop in all the best ways.

Fun Fact: Michiko & Hatchin was made by a lot of the same crew as Cowboy Bebop (basically everyone except the director and the composer). I didn't think it was quite as strong as its predecessor, but it's certainly a good time nonetheless.

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As far as what I've been watching recently...I recently got into is The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya. I can't even begin to explain that show...since we're on a metal forum it's basically the Akercocke of anime :lol:, in other words a combination of elements of different genres all in perfect syncronicity with each other. It straddles the line between romantic comedy, slice of life, and sci-fi, while occasionally dipping into other genres like horror, mystery, psychological stuff, and avant-garde stuff (the infamous Endless Eight arc). And yet, it never feels disjointed or underdeveloped...I always heard people call it one of the best anime of all time, and while I don't know about that, it certainly is incredible.

The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya is, indeed, a neat show, but I never actually loved the franchise until the Disappearance film, which is a straight-up 10 outta 10 from me. I try my damnedest to watch it every Christmas (it takes place during it, after all), it's just that damn good.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:00 pm 
 

So I've had kind of a bumpy road with Kill la Kill, but ultimately I've decided I'm a fan. Initially I found that the hard-cuts from serious to silly were too much for me, but I'm on episode 6 now and I have changed my mind completely. The silly parts are silly AS FUCK, but the writing acknowledges that through the reactions of the main character, much like One Punch Man. The overall art style and animation (especially in the "serious" moments), I adore. When Trigger gets it right they REALLY push my buttons.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:14 pm 
 

Jonpo wrote:
So I've had kind of a bumpy road with Kill la Kill, but ultimately I've decided I'm a fan. Initially I found that the hard-cuts from serious to silly were too much for me, but I'm on episode 6 now and I have changed my mind completely. The silly parts are silly AS FUCK, but the writing acknowledges that through the reactions of the main character, much like One Punch Man. The overall art style and animation (especially in the "serious" moments), I adore. When Trigger gets it right they REALLY push my buttons.


I love Kill la Kill. Especially, how pervy the father, brother and dog are with Ryuko. I think that show is hilarious. I know what you mean with avoiding anime that is over the top with facial expressions and goofiness, but this show does none of that for me.
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Zelkiiro
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:23 pm 
 

Kill la Kill is just a celebration of how the style of limited animation can be used to glorious effect, and the plot is actually super-engaging despite how completely mad and insane it is. Ryuko is straight-up one of the coolest anime protagonists of all time, let alone female protagonist.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:36 pm 
 

Zelkiiro wrote:
Kill la Kill is just a celebration of how the style of limited animation can be used to glorious effect, and the plot is actually super-engaging despite how completely mad and insane it is. Ryuko is straight-up one of the coolest anime protagonists of all time, let alone female protagonist.


I initially gave up on it partway into the 2nd episode but then I COULD NOT STOP THINKING about it. Specifically the art style, animation, and direction. It explodes with energy in a way that Trigger seems to understand masterfully. I'm still reeling from Dead Leaves. I think about it every day. I can't wait to watch it again.

The storyline is certainly keeping me engaged. I love the bond forming between Ryuko and Senketsu. The dynamic between her and the teacher also hints at a lot more depth.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:56 am 
 

Hey not really a big anime fan but I'm about to rewatch Berserk with a friend who's never seen it.

One thing I need to voice to someone is how fucking garbage the English dub is. Holy shit it's every reason I could never get into anime. Stilted performances, cringe-worthy dialogue, obvious attempts to censor the manga/japanese version - I don't think there's anything the dub gets right for me personally.
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Zelkiiro
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:24 pm 
 

Aww man, I love Berserk's dub. It's delightfully cheesy in all the right ways, like Slayers and Tenchi Muyo.

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obvious attempts to censor the manga/japanese version


Eh? I've not encountered anything like that.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 3:42 pm 
 

binging on Naruto Shippuden and it's immeasurably awesome. I liked the original series but Shippuden is just next level. There's a lot of filler yeah but when it's on it's on harder than anything ever.

I can't get over the unbelievable power of the characters, especially breaking it down in detail. People kick so much ass it's absurd.

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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2018 4:36 pm 
 

Naruto is just so massive I haven't been able to bring myself to watch it no matter how many times I hear it's good.
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2018 12:21 pm 
 

Naruto's ok. I remember my vitriol for the series when I first watched it back in 2012. That first series was painful: bad voice acting, lame characters (and character designs), reused scenes per episode, extreme padding and filler / flashbacks / pacing problems, a lot of telling and not showing, and an overall mess of a story. However, it grows on you. Despite it's numerous flaws (major and minor), it warmed up to me. I still hate many things about the shows but I've also appreciated it for what it did right.

Shippuden imo is way better than the first series but it's not some majesty in its own right, either. Suffers from the same problems as the first one (some less so than others). Makes up for it in others ways (read: Killer Bee).
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 11:15 am 
 

I recently saw Psycho-Pass and it's by far the best anime I've ever seen, maybe even one of the best shows I've ever seen, period. Amazing characters, genius writing, some really poignant social commentary...and most of all, easily the best villain in any anime I've ever seen. Of course, he's extremely sadistic and batshit fucking insane, but unlike 99.9% of anime villains, this guy (Makishima) actually has real motivation which allows him to justify the heinous atrocities he commits - so he never acts evil, which makes him legitimately terrifying, at least to me! I've heard the second season isn't as good - haven't started it yet, but at any rate the first season is a solid 10/10.

I also got really big into A Certain Scientific Railgun, and to a lesser extent A Certain Magical Index. Railgun is fucking awesome, just a boatload of fun beginning to end - cool characters and an interesting plot, and it gets even better in it's second season (with the incredibly dark and somewhat disturbing "Sisters" arc). Index, I had mixed feelings on. I liked the occut angle, but the plot was a little hard to follow, the fanservice a little overbearing (he walks in on a naked girl in every. single. fucking. episode.), and some of the stuff just flat out fucking idiotic (the hideous and moronic "Angel Fall" arc in the first season :puke:).
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 12:41 pm 
 

It's kind of embarrassing to admit it, since I'm 31 and all, but I started rewatching Naruto again. Not the entire thing, I've watched the first part twice back around my high school period, but the whole Shippuden deal.

EDIT: I got hooked back in 2006 and have been watching up around the time the manga ended. As soon as that happened I instantly lost interest and stopped watching, but seeing as how there's the Boruto thing which I'm kind of interested in, I was thinking if I finish this I might gt burnt out and now bother with Boruto.

Though I have to say, Tokyo Ghoul? Goddamn such a good anime, I should rewatch the first season and see what else has been released so far.
And I'd love to find some time for good old Neon Genesis Evangelion.

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Zelkiiro
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 3:18 pm 
 

true_death wrote:
I recently saw Psycho-Pass and it's by far the best anime I've ever seen, maybe even one of the best shows I've ever seen, period. Amazing characters, genius writing, some really poignant social commentary...and most of all, easily the best villain in any anime I've ever seen. Of course, he's extremely sadistic and batshit fucking insane, but unlike 99.9% of anime villains, this guy (Makishima) actually has real motivation which allows him to justify the heinous atrocities he commits - so he never acts evil, which makes him legitimately terrifying, at least to me! I've heard the second season isn't as good - haven't started it yet, but at any rate the first season is a solid 10/10.

Psycho-Pass was basically Gen Urobuchi's baby, so if you liked it, you might like his other major works: Fate/Zero, Puella Magi Madoka Magica, and Thunderbolt Fantasy. Each series is wildly different from the last, but also contains similar themes. So much so that people have created Butcher Bingo memes around his work.

Psycho-Pass is probably his most polished and streamlined work with the fewest bumps, but I feel like his other stuff--flaws and all--contain higher highs and bigger surprises. If you liked Makishima, you'll certainly enjoy his other main villains.
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 4:20 pm 
 

Zelkiiro wrote:
Psycho-Pass was basically Gen Urobuchi's baby, so if you liked it, you might like his other major works: Fate/Zero, Puella Magi Madoka Magica, and Thunderbolt Fantasy. Each series is wildly different from the last, but also contains similar themes. So much so that people have created Butcher Bingo memes around his work.


I've heard of Fate/Zero and Puella, had no idea they were written by him though. I tried to get into Fate/Zero because I saw that badass scene with Caster/Bluebeard murdering the child on YouTube but was turned off a bit when I learned it's apparently some kind of prequel to a much bigger series, wasn't sure if I needed to see other stuff to understand it or not. Puella is something I've been meaning to check out too, I know it's considered a "magical girl" anime but supposedly has a lot of darker themes, sounds promising - especially if it's written by that guy.
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 8:49 pm 
 

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I tried to get into Fate/Zero [...] but was turned off a bit when I learned it's apparently some kind of prequel to a much bigger series, wasn't sure if I needed to see other stuff to understand it or not.

It's a prequel to Fate/Stay Night, and fans of the franchise will say it's base treachery to start with Fate/Zero...but fuck those people, Fate/Stay Night is a mixed bag at best, whereas Fate/Zero is fucking awesome. There are a few things you wouldn't understand without the benefit of reading Fate/Stay Night, but they're not terribly important--they mostly involve a couple of the characters' McGuffins.

The following is only spoilers for Fate/Stay Night, but again, fuck Fate/Stay Night. Here's everything Fate/Zero doesn't eventually tell you about.

Thing You Need to Know #1: Tokiomi Tohsaka wants to use the Holy Grail to reach "The Root."
What You Can Guess Just From Watching Fate/Zero: Tokiomi's a scholar and an aristocrat, and clearly he's gotten all the magical knowledge money can buy, so "The Root" must be something like "the root of all knowledge."
Is That Close to What It Actually is? Yep! That's precisely it. The Root contains the Akashic Records, which is a collection of all knowledge that anyone who pierces the veil between dimensions can access. Piercing said veil is really hard, though, thus the need for the Holy Grail to punch through it.

Thing You Need to Know #2: Zouken Matou, Kariya's (grand?)father, wants to use the Holy Grail to learn "the Third Magic, Heaven's Feel."
What You Can Guess Just From Watching Fate/Zero: Kariya pejoratively refers to the gross and elderly Zouken as a "vampire," meaning Zouken strives for youth and steals it from others, so "the Third Magic, Heaven's Feel" must be some kind of spell that restores youth or bestows eternal life?
Is That Close to What It Actually is? Kinda. The "Third Magic" refers to one of the Five Sorceries, powerful spells that were so beyond the scope of normal magic that they were said to be at the level of the gods' own powers. Heaven's Feel, specifically, is a spell that rejuvenates the soul to its youthful state and flawlessly transfers it to a new vessel, e.g. switching out your old and decrepit body into a younger and stronger one without the new body degenerating rapidly afterwards. Zouken eats people--like, literally eats people--and for a few hundred years this brought him the youth he desired, but his soul is becoming more and more corrupted, so his only hope to maintain his "immortality" is to attain this spell and rejuvenate his soul so that he can live hundreds of years more.

Thing You Need to Know #3: The Command Seals do much more than just order a Servant to take an action against their will.
What You Can Guess Just From Watching Fate/Zero: Eh, that's basically all the explanation you get. It's mostly right, but there's a few other tricks it can do, which the show demonstrates a few times.
What Else Can They Do? A Command Seal is a pool of magic, and giving a command is akin to casting a spell--since there's a lot of magic in each one, it can force even the most powerful Servants to obey, but if it's an action the Servant already wants to do ("Hey Saber, use your super-awesome sword to stick the pointy end into the other man!"), the Servant gets a big power boost to that action since none of the magic was wasted in compelling the Servant to do so. And the more specific the command, the more power granted; vice versa, the more general and vague the command, the boost is less effective. The Command Seals can also be used to tell the Servant to react to something they cannot see, so the Master can order them to dodge an attack they saw coming but the Servant did not.

And that's that. Now Fate/Zero is open to you--nothing else in it will be left unexplained before it's over, except for the Huge Plot Twist Spoiler, which doesn't matter much because the twist itself works perfectly on its own and the backstory is just optional icing on the cake.
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2018 10:04 pm 
 

People like you are part of the problem.

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Jonpo
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2018 7:03 pm 
 

Yu Yu Hakasho fucking rules. I'm loving the Dark Tournament arc. Everything has a little more depth and brutality than I expected starting this show.

Oh and for homie above: WATCH MADOKA! RIGHT NOW!
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2018 9:08 pm 
 

Jonpo wrote:
Yu Yu Hakasho fucking rules. I'm loving the Dark Tournament arc. Everything has a little more depth and brutality than I expected starting this show.

Damn right. YYH is one of the best out there. A favorite of mine.
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2018 9:22 pm 
 

Jonpo wrote:
Oh and for homie above: WATCH MADOKA! RIGHT NOW!


Madoka is fantastic. I say this as someone who stopped watching anime as a teenager.
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2018 9:32 pm 
 

Madoka is special on a different emotional level. Its SO fucked up.

I didn't really start until my 30s hahah. Only Cowboy Bebop before recent explorations.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:12 am 
 

RE: Naruto

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