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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:29 am 
 

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1. The acting was great.
2. I used to think "the long take" was a marvel of filmmaking and the coolest thing ever. But the problem is that it's been done so heavily that not only has it lost all novelty, it just comes off as a gimmick today. When Rope did it, it was a revelation. When Touch of Evil did it, with a huge crane shot full of intricately placed details for the opening of the film, it was impressive. Alfonso Cuaron integrated it into a big-budget action film with insanely complex choreography, visual effects and pyrotechnics, all to stunning effect in Children of Men. Then Gravity managed it in a heavy VFX setting. Irreversible did everything Birdman did 15 years earlier and on a much tighter budget.

There was nothing revelatory or exciting or impressive about a long-take film by the time Birdman rolled around. Worse, it just came off as a gimmick. I honestly preferred Atmoic Blonde's long-take action scenes because at least they were exciting (though also pure gimmick).
3. Ed Norton and Emma Stone are also comic book film alumnis. I completely disagree with the film reflecting Ray Carver's realism in any way, Birdman was pure style and cinema magic, and it centered around the lives of self-centered spoiled, whiny rich people, a polar opposite of Carver in just about every way. It was a Bret Easton Ellis setting, Carver would've been disgusted by the film's gimmicks and characters. The film was also a full two hours.
4. K-PAX

Other than the terrible appropriation of Carver, the main thing that irritated me about the film was how self-congratulatory it was of Hollywood and theater arts. Everything about it reeked of "Oscar Movie" and pure Hollywood/theater circlejerk about how amazing and important they are... and lo and behold, it killed it at the Oscars. Because of course it did. Also, the idea that Robert Downey Jr. wandering around outside in his underwear while getting to the stage in New York would be some sort of 'viral phenomenon' across America proved that the director has no fucking idea how social media works. And the idea that Keaton blowing himself on stage would be seen as some "transgressive modern art masterwork" is absolutely risible, this type of art happens every single day, no one cares anymore, least of all jaded critics. Has Inarritu never been to a Matthew Barney exhibit in his life?

Dumping all of the plot threads at the end tried to be a nod to Carver (he'd often leave his characters when you'd least expect), but ended up just coming off as bad writing; what the fuck was the point of anyone other than the eponymous hero? The film would often have scenes where Keaton was neither present nor even talked about, so the film wasn't just about him; unceremoniously dropping every other character at the end mid-thread, yet neatly sealing up Keaton's arch, just came off as inconsistent and lazy.

I did, however, like his 'new nose' at the end. That was kind of cute. Also, Ant-man was meant to be a joke because
1) birds eat ants
2) Ant-man was actually memorable in how bad it was. I'll forget Birdman by the end of next month.

Man, I need to watch Short Cuts again. Now THAT'S how you do Raymond Carver.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:36 am 
 

Birdman, Antman, you know which '-man' movie is truly worse than both? Batman Returns. REMEMBER ME? I'M FRED'S HAND.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 4:37 pm 
 

The "long take" in Birdman wasn't just done for style, though. It presented three days of events and Keaton's declining mental stability in one long moment, as if to say that he's so stressed that his days bleed together.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 6:38 pm 
 

I'd agree with that if the film only ever focused on Keaton and his perception of events, but there were plenty of scenes where he was neither present nor even discussed. There was nothing in the script that hinted that Watts's budding sexuality or Emma Stone's fling were fantasies concocted by Keaton's superego. No, it was an ensemble film, it just forgot it was an ensemble film three quarters in. The movie was a mess.

Anyway, if you haven't seen Short Cuts and you're even remotely interested in Raymond Carver, you need to. Sure, its LA setting is a slap in the face to Carver's typically lower class rural northwestern locales, but it manages to capture Carver's "essence" perfectly. It also puts to shame Hollywood ensemble scams like Crash, Babylon, The Air I Breathe and Magnolia years before they even came out. I miss Robert Altman :(.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2018 12:20 pm 
 

Kill List, anybody? Fucked me up. I loved it. For fans of The Wicker Man (original), The VVitch, maybe As Above/So Below, and True Detective's first season.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2018 5:11 pm 
 

Yup, Kill List is great but check out that director's next movie, A Field in England. It's even better. It's like a tripped out Shakespeare play. I've been meaning to watch it again but it blew me away the first time.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2018 5:27 pm 
 

Both of those sound interesting... only film I've seen by this dude is Free Fire though, which I found pretty much unwatchable. I'll check the others though.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2018 6:59 pm 
 

Empy, you gotta check out High Rise then.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2018 7:34 pm 
 

Neil Maskell and Michael Smiley are brilliant actors. I also love High Rise, imho it was the first movie to finally nail JG Ballard.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:18 pm 
 

I haven't seen any of Ben Wheatley's movies past A Field in England so I should check out High Rise.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 9:25 am 
 

I actually did a review of High Rise In this thread a while ago.

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There was a certain flavor to '70s dystopian media that seemed enamored with the gradual decay of society via its own inventions, an almost anti-consumerist stance on technological advancement that relished in its short-term nihilism as western culture changed from the Greatest Generation to the Baby Boomers. The usual themes of class warfare and the individual's reaction to such swift societal "progress" come to mind in this film based on the 1975 JG Ballard novel of the same name, with obvious political allegories abound and a unique sense of style and flare used to virtual perfection at key moments.

Dr. Robert Laing (Tom Hiddleston) is a new tenant in the latest high rise apartment complex built by world-renowned architect Anthony Royal (Jeremy Irons). Upon his first meetings with his upstairs neighbor, Charlotte (Sienna Miller), and his various interactions with the other tenants throughout his daily routine, it becomes increasingly apparent that the lavish parties between the lower 30 floors and the aristocratic pageantry of the upper 10 serve as little more than distractions from the different classes having to communicate. Laing soon meets Richard Wilder (Luke Evans), a documentary filmmaker and husband to the ever-pregnant Helen (Elizabeth Moss), immediately recognizing his short temper and self-destructive tendencies, particularly when it comes to interacting with the "upper echelon" of the high rise, primarily TV news anchor Cosgrove (Peter Ferdinando) and self-absorbed businessman Pangbourne (James Purefoy). As Laing wanders about his daily life, indulging in the same excesses as those around him, he soon begins to witness the cracks starting to form. Brief power outages, explained by Royal as "the building's teething," heighten the already existing social unrest between the floors, until a birthday party for one of the Wilder's children turns into a full-on confrontation between the classes, with Richard crashing a private function in the tower's swimming pool leading to increasingly violent opposition.

Director Ben Wheatley beautifully shoots the building's descent into madness through Laing's perspective, with stylish framing/editing techniques blending brilliantly to highlight the general joviality of the building's early days and dark, primal, claustrophobic shots as the chaos unfolds. There is as much, if not more, visual storytelling on display as there are in the scripted narrative, with choice alterations of each character's attire (or lack thereof) highlighting their former and newer roles within the building, done particularly well whenever Laing interacts with Royal and the upper echelon as an almost dream-like presence permeates simple shots. In fact, you learn everything you need to know about Laing as a character in the first ten minutes of the film: he rarely allows himself to be seen not in a suit and tie, he refuses to unpack his belongings from their cardboard prisons inside his apartment, and he visibly struggles to relate to his neighbors unless sex or alcohol are in great supply. The violence is shown in a similar manner to Green Room, with the occasional graphic depiction rarely lingered on so that the shock value remains with you as a viewer. Topping this off, the performances by all of the principal cast - from Hiddleston to Miller and back again - are pitch perfect, with Luke Evans standing out due to the weight on the shoulders of Richard Wilder as a character.

There are plenty of faults to find, however. The nigh 2-hour runtime has moments where it drags and you're left wanting something, anything, to happen, but are then "treated" to more dialogue and/or montage footage of the events occurring. There seem to be several subplots left only vaguely touched, possibly delved further into in the original novel, and the climax comes from left field with characters turning against their allies without much prompting or reason. Through it all, one massive plot hole remains, the kind of that can potentially cripple whether or not the film impacts you: why does nobody leave the fucking building? Were this a Romero film, there would be hordes of the flesh-eating dead outside the doors, forcing the cast to remain inside, but several characters come and go as they please, returning each day from their jobs without even a throwaway "this is my home" comment to give them reason to.

Overall, if you're looking for some great performances and a nifty little piece of sociological critique, you can do a lot worse. High Rise at least feels like a complete film, even if the adaptation from the source material (where some of these issues may be resolved in a more fulfilling manner) leaves something to be desired. 7/10
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 2:58 pm 
 

Class of Nuke 'Em High - Sadly not the dumb fun I was hoping for. I think I sort of enjoyed The Toxic Avenger, so I'm at least capable of appreciating a Troma movie for what it is. This one dragged in a way an 85 minute movie never should, with scene after scene of "The Cretins" gang being obnoxious, trying and failing to set up a compelling conflict between them and the main couple. I almost rated this a 3 / 10, but some decent practical effects bumped it up to 4 / 10.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2018 9:30 pm 
 

Death of Stalin had me in stitches. Been a while since I've laughed that hard from a movie.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2018 8:42 am 
 

Finally watched The Disaster Artist. Loved it. An Ed Wood for our modern era, both in the movie and director. Tommy Wiseau's story has always been cryptic, but seeing it explored... only added even more questions about the man. At once a protagonist and an antagonist, a sympathetic character and an asshole. James Franco so enveloped the role, at times you forget it's not actually Tommy Wiseau. In any other film like this, not explaining Wiseau's behavior and the reasons for his actions, or some semblance of his background, would be borderline sloppy filmmaking or plot holes. Here, it adds to the bizarre mystery of the man, whose origins, financial status, and real name remain mysteries.

The credits sequence featured side-by-side shot comparisons from the original film and Franco's (and he's crew's) recreations, with impressive accuracy. Allowing the disk to play to the end of the credits showed Franco's Wiseau having a bizarre stand-offish conversation with the real Wiseau.

I get that this is based on Greg Sistero's book, so there's probably some written bias to it, but still, he's gotta be one of the nicest guys on the planet. Or maybe a bit misguided, but hey, at least something came from it.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 2:07 am 
 

I just watched Annihilation. I can't really say a lot about how much I liked this movie without spoiling it, but basically, if you like sci fi, gorgeous visuals, and disturbing, atmospheric horror, give this one a look. It's super good. Now, onto the spoilers:

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Okay, first of all; that fucking bear scene. Holy shit. I can't believe how goddamn tense that affair was. Never since the blood test scene in The Thing have I felt this truly, honestly scared during a horror movie. Just how the thing slowly navigated between them as they were helpless, sniffing them, and with their dead partner's screams coming out of its mouth... Jesus Christ. So goddamn intense. New classic horror moment right there.

And then, of course, is the matter of the ending, which just kind of had me staring slackjawed at the screen for several minutes. The combination of the trippy, ominous music, the insane visuals and just... everything coming together is almost impossible to describe. I'm not really sure what all of it meant, but I don't think it matters. The way it just put me in the protagonist's place, feeling a mix of awe, confusion, and fear was total masterclass filmmaking. I'm shamelessly gushing over this, I know, but I can't help it. Haven't experienced such a high watching a movie in a while.

There are also things such as the amazing aesthetic aspects of the inside of the Shimmer, the slow but intriguing progress of the movie, and the constant air of unease and worry as the protagonists find themselves deeper and deeper inside a world that not only becomes more alien with every step, but also threatens to make them such as well. Terrific movie, for sure. I can see some people finding the slow burn rather hard to swallow, but really, even if you don't like the other aspects, the bear scene and the ending will still probably be etched into your mind for a long, long time.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2018 2:58 pm 
 

Unsane was a potent, enjoyable flick. Claire Foy needs to be cast in everything. One could almost call this a straight up neo-giallo, the very first shot gives off Argento vibes. And the antagonist looks Bill Hicks.

I guess it's official kids, you can make good movies with your phones now.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2018 5:59 pm 
 

Jersey Girl - Kevin Smith goes PG-13 and makes a movie that seems like a made-for-TV tearjerker. The stuff with Ben Affleck and his 7 year old daughter worked better than I expected, since the actress did about as well as a child performer could do. I did not understand the Liv Tyler character at all though. Were people eager for a re-teaming of Armageddon's romantic leads?

The way they meet doesn't even make sense. Affleck goes to the video store she works at, where she asks inappropriate questions about the porn flick he's renting. She later shows up unannounced at his house. And thus begins the relationship that convinces ..... ahh, I spoiled enough already. It's really weird though.

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The Titan - As if four upcoming Avatar sequels wasn't enough, Sam Worthington decided to make another movie in which he becomes an alien who can breathe on another planet. Or, breathe on a moon of Saturn. This continues the trend of Netflix movies being mediocre. I found it maybe a little better than Cloverfield 3 but not as good as The Ritual.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2018 5:47 pm 
 

Kill List is one of my favourite horrors. Nice to see it getting mentioned.

I watched The Wailing. It's bloody fantastic, my favourite Korean horror so far I think. To give you an idea of how thematically dense it is, the film is to The Exorcist what Eco's Foucault's Pendulum is to The Da Vinci Code, in my opinion. And I love The Exorcist. Also the tone and pacing reminded me of Noroi, which I also loved.

Watched Bone Tomahawk as well. It's a very simple film, but pretty effective! I love how the characters end up having to drag their limp, wounded selves and arrive within an inch of their life to save the damsel in distress. And speaking of the damsel in distress, I found it a rather old-fashioned movie as well, and if you think about it the main characters basically
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But it's still good.
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We did watch Murder on the Orient Express (remake first and original later) recently:
-Remake: Cartoonish parody:
https://www.filmaffinity.com/en/film166313.html
-Original: Real fun and well done.
https://www.filmaffinity.com/en/film463461.html

Same with The Ladykillers (original first and remake later):
-Original: Real fun and well done.
https://www.filmaffinity.com/en/film866671.html
-Remake: Cartoonish parody:
https://www.filmaffinity.com/en/film264548.html

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Sepulchrave wrote:

Watched Bone Tomahawk as well. It's a very simple film, but pretty effective! I love how the characters end up having to drag their limp, wounded selves and arrive within an inch of their life to save the damsel in distress. And speaking of the damsel in distress, I found it a rather old-fashioned movie as well, and if you think about it the main characters basically
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But it's still good.


I loved that movie. It's mix of classic Western and visceral horror actually worked really well.
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I also loved Bone Tomahawk (and The Wailing, for that matter). I absolutely loved the tone, the pace, and how everything was down to earth, including the realistic (and funny) dialogues. It also doesn't insult the viewer's intelligence by rushing everything and making it totally unbelievable.

I've watched some movies recently, one of which is Life. Based on what I've seen on the internet, I expected it to be average at best. Turns out it's actually even worse than my expectations. It's basically just a bad remake of Alien with no real suspense or anything solid going on at all. The first part was kind of promising, the way the "discovery" was handled and mediatised and all. But then it just started falling apart.
This has to be the worst Jake Gyllenhaal movie I've seen. I've grown to like him over the last years, he's always playing different roles usually in good movies, but not this time, though it has nothing to do with his performance.

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The main problem here really is the "Alien issue." Life doesn't bring anything that Alien didn't already do many decades ago, except that it was done in a much, much better way. Sure, the alien thing here is dangerous as fuck, and they managed to make it extremely intelligent as to immediately adapt to various forms of human technology, beside being pretty much unkillable. But it's always well-lit and visible, and they discover everything about it quite early. There's no real terror, fear of the unknown, or even subteltly in showing the creature's abilities. The movie is simply showing us how smart and dangerous and adaptive this alien is.

Which leads to the second problem: there's too much exposition and not enough character development, making the story quite shallow and hard to care about. Viewers aren't supposed to "care" for the alien, and the humans aren't interesting in the slightest, so what's left to care about?

I also have many questions, mainly related to the creature:

Maybe I missed something but how did they know that thing destroyed all life on Mars ? How come there was no trace left of the "massacre" ? And how come the alien was only a small thing when they discovered it, while we saw it grow really fast by consuming just a few things on the ISS ?
And there's the obvious question: why the fuck put an alien organism in a lab that's very obviously easy to escape from for an alien organism? I guess otherwise the movie would have ended after 30 minutes or so.
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Really enjoyed Annihilation. Visually striking, and I enjoyed the way they let the narrative unfold through the main character being semi-interrogated. It was cool knowing she made it back out from the jump. Things get uh...weird, and I'll echo a few others saying they aren't totally sure they understood the ending. I'm not sure I did either, but the whole thing was very satisfying.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 09, 2018 11:46 pm 
 

Just got back from seeing Ready Player One

It's good, but not really an extraordinary story. Some of the character development felt like it moved too fast or was rushed (and at times, completely non existent). The visuals are amazing, but are clearly prioritized above all else. It's a fun movie with a lot of pop culture references. Worth seeing, but I'm not quite sure it's worthy of the high praise that it's getting.
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Just got back from seeing Ready Player One

It's good, but not really an extraordinary story. Some of the character development felt like it moved too fast or was rushed (and at times, completely non existent). The visuals are amazing, but are clearly prioritized above all else. It's a fun movie with a lot of pop culture references. Worth seeing, but I'm not quite sure it's worthy of the high praise that it's getting.


If it's getting high praise I agree it is not worthy of it, but I did enjoy it for the visuals.

I agree with you about the character development. The Sho character was completely botched. I don't know why they even bothered. It really feels like they added in lines for his character after the movie was done.

My friends were all up in arms about the changes between the book and the movie and while I didn't finish the book, I didn't have any huge problems with what I read and the changes made in the movie. I did like the Joust scene in the book, but I think changing it to a race served the movie better than watching characters play Joust on an arcade machine.
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I never read the book, so I have no frame of reference for how the story "should" look on screen. I wasn't even aware that it was a novel until it was mentioned in the credits.
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Why do theaters start show times at 11:35am but don't have showings around 8pm? Always 7:15 and 9:30, never 8.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 6:44 am 
 

Watched Insidious The Last Key last night. Worth a rental for fans, but some of the jump scares were annoying. The dumb humor with the two ghost hunters felt very out of place too.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 10:50 pm 
 

Watched a couple horror movies with atrocious user ratings, just to see how bad they were.

Leprechaun: Origins (3.3 / 10 IMDB, 2.1 / 5 Amazon.com) - They tried to make a serious creature feature horror film with almost no humor and a leprechaun who never talks. So why have a WWE wrestler, who presumably has decent microphone skills, play him? This movie went out of its way not to show the monster most of the time, and the attack scenes involved quick editing and way too much "leprechaun's eye view" effect. Bad, and not in an enjoyable way. That upcoming SyFy Channel sequel I whined about before would need to make a conscious effort to be worse than this.

Day of the Dead: Bloodline (3.4 / 10 IMDB, 1.9 / 5 Amazon.com) - Not good enough to recommend, but not as bad as I expected based on those ratings. The acting was generally stiff early on and either got better as the movie progressed, or I just got used to it. Characters made even more dumb decisions here than is typical for a horror movie. But the zombie effects were good, there was some potent gore, and the pacing was OK. I might have liked this better than Day of the Dead (2008).

Might do The Open House soon to see if I hate it as much as other people here.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 11:50 am 
 

Few quickies...

Blockers (2018)
A comedy that was far better than it led itself on to be, similar to Sex Drive or Grandma's Boy in that sense. John Cena steals the goddamn show, but the younger cast shines whenever allowed (which, unfortunately, isn't as often as they should be). You know the synopsis - three high school girls make a sex pact for prom night and their parents try to stop them - but things go a bit deeper. Each parent has one or two notes they ride throughout, but it all works. There's a great few scenes talking about double standards and about burgeoning sexual identity, along with some fun hijinks involving Gina Gershon and Gary Cole. A must-see if you grew up on teen sex comedies, both for its subversion of those tropes and progressive attitude toward sexuality in general. 7/10

Cybercity (1998, AKA The Shepherd)
Is there any cast member from The Outsiders With a worse career trajectory than C. Thomas Howell? He went from being a promising young star to headlining d-grade schlock fairly quickly, and I'm not entirely sure he doesn't deserve it. He's fine here as Dakota, a Shepherd (hitman) for Miles (Roddy Piper), but this is a movie where the crew clearly had a decent idea of what they wanted to do but couldn't form it into something worthwhile. There can't have been a script for this and, if there was, it must've been such a mess that nobody really bothered to follow it. The acting is shyte from everybody but Howell and Piper, the flow is garbage, and there's so much blatant ADR that I'm wondering if anybody had an idea what was going on while filming. It's always too bad when a solid premise (warring religious cults in a post-apocalyptic underground bunker) gets ruined by sub-amateur execution. 2/10

Murder Party (2007)
I first read about Jeremy Saulnier's (Green Room) debut in Fangoria and the review made me seek it out. A decade later, I return to see if it holds up...and it's only gotten better. A ticket agent (Chris Sharp) stumbles upon a random invitation for what he thinks is a Halloween party, but it turns out that the party is an art exhibit where murder is the theme. While most flicks would delve into torture porn, Saulnier swings with a wild haymaker and delivers a brilliant splatter-tinged mockery of artists and their egos. Macon Blair and Sandy Barnett steal the show with their performances, and the finale gives us two of my favorite lines in horror movie history. 8/10, but your mileage may vary if you've never dealt with the "serious artist" types.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:26 pm 
 

Resident_Hazard wrote:
Sepulchrave wrote:

Watched Bone Tomahawk as well. It's a very simple film, but pretty effective! I love how the characters end up having to drag their limp, wounded selves and arrive within an inch of their life to save the damsel in distress. And speaking of the damsel in distress, I found it a rather old-fashioned movie as well, and if you think about it the main characters basically
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But it's still good.


I loved that movie. It's mix of classic Western and visceral horror actually worked really well.


I was kind of dissapointed with Bone Tomahawk, even if in the end it's still a good film. I was expecting ultra intense horror (based on what I read online), but to my surprise, the journey to the cannibals lair was the best part of the film, and when they got there it was just "meh". Seemed like From Dusk Till Dawn if the Titty Twister part only lasted 20 minutes.

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Watched [REC] for the first time. Christ it's so fun. The dialogue is worth praising, too, all the characters, even the few lines from some of the residents, feel realistic. I'm usually not that fond of horror film that has no other ambition other than being horror, but [REC] is definitely one exception. Just goes to show that you don't need stuff like themes, endless "wow look how mind-fucking this is guys" moments, etc. to make a riveting modern film in the horror genre *looks at It Comes at Night*

Also watched Under the Shadow. The supernatural force in the film probably works well as a metaphor for the political changes in Iran during the time, but I don't know enough about Iranian history. Either way, also a solid, suspenseful movie, with AMAZING sound effects, by the way.
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[REC]s 1 and 2 are proof that found footage is a viable style of filmmaking, it just needs to be done right.
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[REC]s 1 and 2 are proof that found footage is a viable style of filmmaking, it just needs to be done right.


REC 2 is with Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2, Return of The Living Dead 2 and The Hills Have Eyes 2 as one of the shittiest sequels to a fantastic movie.

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Anyway, if you haven't seen Short Cuts and you're even remotely interested in Raymond Carver, you need to. Sure, its LA setting is a slap in the face to Carver's typically lower class rural northwestern locales, but it manages to capture Carver's "essence" perfectly. It also puts to shame Hollywood ensemble scams like Crash, Babylon, The Air I Breathe and Magnolia years before they even came out. I miss Robert Altman :(.


Short Cuts is a masterpiece.

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at the gaytes wrote:
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[REC]s 1 and 2 are proof that found footage is a viable style of filmmaking, it just needs to be done right.


REC 2 is with Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2, Return of The Living Dead 2 and The Hills Have Eyes 2 as one of the shittiest sequels to a fantastic movie.

Whatever you say, chief. TCM2 isn't shit, but tastes vary.
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Whatever you say, chief. TCM2 isn't shit, but tastes vary.
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I remember liking the first two [REC] movies. It was the third and fourth ones, which IIRC abandoned the found footage style, that seemed unnecessary to me.

TCM 2 doesn't compare to the original, and it's hard to believe the same director made it. After a couple viewings I learned to sort of appreciate what it was going for. And I definitely enjoy it more than sequels like Halloween 2 ('81) and RoboCop 2.
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TCM is a horror classic fueled by its intensity. TCM 2 is a comedy horror, which is what Tobe Hooper originally envisioned TCM.

If we're talking poor sequels to horror classics, Halloween 2 (1981) and ROTLD 2 are way worse than TCM 2. Even Amityville II is better than those.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 8:51 pm 
 

Return of the Living Dead 2 is considered that bad, huh? I watched that series out of order, starting with #3, then watching 2 then 1, or 1 then 2. (*Checks IMDB*) Oh that's right, Tommy from Friday the 13th Part 6 was in the first two movies, but playing different characters.

I watched Netflix's The Open House this afternoon. It was just as bad as people in this thread said it was. Competent acting, an attractive location, decent visuals, and none of that mattered because the script was so bad. There was so little happening in this movie I'm wondering if I zoned out briefly and missed something important. If not, they really tried making a thriller where the tension through most of the movie comes from misplaced phones and getting blasted with cold water in the shower.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 9:24 pm 
 

acid_bukkake wrote:
TCM is a horror classic fueled by its intensity. TCM 2 is a comedy horror, which is what Tobe Hooper originally envisioned TCM.

If we're talking poor sequels to horror classics, Halloween 2 (1981) and ROTLD 2 are way worse than TCM 2. Even Amityville II is better than those.


The thing is that TCM 2 fails miserably at both horror and comedy, it's just a wretched insufferable film. I don't remember Halloween 2 being bad, I thought it was just a OK movie (considering that I watched it only once 10 years ago, maybe my tastes evolved). Was Amytiville 1 any good? I remember it being boring as hell and the 2000's remake being much more fun.

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