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Malefikant
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2018 7:05 am 
 

CoconutBackwards wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tammy_Lynn_Leppert

That girl was in Scarface and plays a girl distracting Manny during the chainsaw shower scene.


Yes, I stumbled over this as well some time ago.

The 70s/80s in the USA seemed to be a very prolific time for serial killers.

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CoconutBackwards
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2018 11:52 am 
 

Malefikant wrote:
CoconutBackwards wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tammy_Lynn_Leppert

That girl was in Scarface and plays a girl distracting Manny during the chainsaw shower scene.


Yes, I stumbled over this as well some time ago.

The 70s/80s in the USA seemed to be a very prolific time for serial killers.


I imagine things have also become harder for serial killers now with cell phones.
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Malefikant
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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2018 4:24 pm 
 

CoconutBackwards wrote:
I imagine things have also become harder for serial killers now with cell phones.


Yes, in general way more observation obviously, but of course the most significant blow was the DNA forensics in the 90s.

There are still psychopaths around, but now luckily most of the time they got stopped after 1-2 victims these days (in Western society at least).

Still, there will be a lot of cold cases from the 70s/80s that maybe will never be solved.

By the way, this coincidentally taken picture (allegedly) shows Ted Bundy sitting in his VW Beetle just before he killed two young women at Lake Sammamish in 1974:

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Nowadays, you would probably have dozens of pictures from public spaces.

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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2018 8:43 am 
 

Malefikant wrote:
CoconutBackwards wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tammy_Lynn_Leppert

That girl was in Scarface and plays a girl distracting Manny during the chainsaw shower scene.


Yes, I stumbled over this as well some time ago.

The 70s/80s in the USA seemed to be a very prolific time for serial killers.


There is actually a movie from the early 80's that looks into this, which I discovered because it was sampled by The Berzerker, and went to track it down. It's called The Killing of America and chronicles the rapid downturn in the United States over the 70's, from the peace-entric 60's to the utter violence-addled meltdown of the 70's. Interestingly, as the movie was made in 1981, it predates the horrifying drug cartel violence that turned 80's Miami into a war zone, and the spread of inner-city gang violence of the 90's. The US didn't seem to finally calm down until the mid-90's (the reasoning for that curiously analyzed in the film Freakonomics).


In general, for people looking for a rather fun Unsolved Crimes/Mysteries show (sorry if this has been mentioned), there is a show that can be found on Amazon Prime (and probably Buzzfeed) from Buzzfeed called Unsolved. The first season is pretty slight, episodes run around 7-20 minutes. Episodes for the second and third seasons run 20-40 minutes each. The show is actually quite entertaining, with a level of silliness to it, and an almost innocent whimsy that the hosts have entering into the stories makes it lively. But there is dedication and fascination from the hosts that is infectious, and the stories, while many are familiar, look into various theories that are quite surprising. Even for crimes I'm familiar with (and I enjoy a good crime story), I've found some fascinating new information. I know, you probably have the same raised eyebrow and "ehhhhh...." notion about Buzzfeed that I generally do, but this was pretty damn good.

As a note, the YouTube link I put up there for Buzzfeed Unsolved includes their Supernatural episodes as well. I haven't watched those yet, just the crime ones thus far.
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2018 2:37 pm 
 

That picture is fucked if there's any truth to what it claims to be.

If it's the beatle next to the corvette, I can't make out anyone in that picture.
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Malefikant
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PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2018 3:05 pm 
 

CoconutBackwards wrote:
That picture is fucked if there's any truth to what it claims to be.

If it's the beatle next to the corvette, I can't make out anyone in that picture.


It's not really proven from what I understand:

https://wildbluepress.com/bundy-secrets ... sammamish/

But still, I mean he was quite probably SOMEWHERE in this picture, maybe in the background. What I find fascinating is how he was a complete human chameleon/shapeshifter and apparently it also applied to the appearance of his car.

I read a lot about Bundy's case, especially from main investigator Bob Keppel. Those interviews with Bundy are indeed fucked up on a level of its own. Not sure if I would recommend it to others.

@ Resident Hazard: Thanks for that The Killing of America documentary recommendation, sounds very interesting. Will check out!

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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2018 9:47 am 
 

Why do you not recommend reading interviews by Bob Keppel.

Also, did you happen to read the book from the author of that website you linked to?
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Malefikant
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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2018 11:02 am 
 

CoconutBackwards wrote:
Why do you not recommend reading interviews by Bob Keppel.

Also, did you happen to read the book from the author of that website you linked to?


Because exploring Bundy's mind and the details of his crimes can be pretty depressing.

No, but this one here I read as well:

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/205661.Ted_Bundy

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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2018 11:40 am 
 

I agree about the depressing part. Also, it scares the shit out of me.

Why do I obsessively read this garbage?
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PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2018 2:29 pm 
 

So, who's heard of Emilie Sagée, the French teacher who had a ghostly twin sister/doppelgänger mimicking her moves? The story may very well be completely fabricated, but it's a nice one notwithstanding.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 10:24 am 
 

DecemberSoul wrote:
So, who's heard of Emilie Sagée, the French teacher who had a ghostly twin sister/doppelgänger mimicking her moves? The story may very well be completely fabricated, but it's a nice one notwithstanding.


Isn't she known as Madame Sage? And I thought she was russian. But I don't think her doppelgänger mimicked her moves, I think it did different things, for example it would be in the garden outside the classroom while her other self was teaching class. *shrugs*
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 8:36 am 
 

Resident_Hazard wrote:
There is actually a movie from the early 80's that looks into this, which I discovered because it was sampled by The Berzerker, and went to track it down. It's called The Killing of America and chronicles the rapid downturn in the United States over the 70's, from the peace-entric 60's to the utter violence-addled meltdown of the 70's. Interestingly, as the movie was made in 1981, it predates the horrifying drug cartel violence that turned 80's Miami into a war zone, and the spread of inner-city gang violence of the 90's. The US didn't seem to finally calm down until the mid-90's (the reasoning for that curiously analyzed in the film Freakonomics).


Watched it, it was quite interesting. I like that "Faces of Death" touch, also the soundtrack could be from "Dawn of the Dead", it captures that grim late 70s/early 80s Deathwish/Warriors street crime vibe very well. Of course Kennedy and John Lennon had to be in there as well, but still watchable. The loose narrative is totally biased moralist propaganda, but I like that, I mean it's about the "Killing of America" and nothing else, surely better than anything Michael Moore has manipulated, I mean documented.

The bit about the serial killers was nasty, especially the case of Dean "Candyman" Corll, a full-blown sexual sadist.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_Corll

This photo shows another still unidentified victim of the "Candyman" (maybe digging his own grave?):

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Interesting that the movie predates Henry Lee Lucas and Otis Toole, they would have fit well. And I can't stand Edmund Kemper, such a narcissistic asshole that likes to hear himself talk.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 12:58 pm 
 

I can't make out what's going on in that picture, but I read through most of that Wikipedia link on Dean Corill and that whole story is over the top, bat shit crazy.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:02 pm 
 

CoconutBackwards wrote:
I can't make out what's going on in that picture, but I read through most of that Wikipedia link on Dean Corill and that whole story is over the top, bat shit crazy.


It is completely insane, also the great "police work", I mean it almost sounds like they were in on it. The whole case got probably a bit overshadowed by John Wayne Gacy later. Maybe because a clown is more creepy than a candyman and Corll wasn't on a picture with the first lady, I don't know. For sure, Corll was the bigger sadist, these poor boys must have suffered incredible torture.

By the way, I always found these Macabre pix somehow hilarious, but on the other hand also completely sick (in an uncool way). I mean, why the hell you want to be friends with Gacy? He quite probably thought of strangling and sodomizing them while they took these pictures with him. Never been a fan of Macabre's music, anyway.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:19 pm 
 

Jesus Christ.

I don't know where I stand on anything ever, but taking band photos with John Wayne Gacy is fucked.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:21 pm 
 

Malefikant wrote:
CoconutBackwards wrote:
I can't make out what's going on in that picture, but I read through most of that Wikipedia link on Dean Corill and that whole story is over the top, bat shit crazy.


It is completely insane, also the great "police work", I mean it almost sounds like they were in on it. The whole case got probably a bit overshadowed by John Wayne Gacy later. Maybe because a clown is more creepy than a candyman and Corll wasn't on a picture with the first lady, I don't know. For sure, Corll was the bigger sadist, these poor boys must have suffered incredible torture.


Corill is the worst story I think I've read. It just went on and on and on and on. Piles of dead boys buried all over the place.

Then his accessory brings in a girl and that was somehow the biggest sin of all, so he tried to kill him?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:49 pm 
 

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-m ... story.html

Looks like the party's over with that.
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