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Def_C
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2023 1:16 am 
 

I am working on a Playlist for Rightwing Music & a playlist for Leftwing Music, but it seems to be that Rightwing Metal is harder to find than Leftwing Metal, atleast Rightwing Metal that doesn’t dive deep into National Socialist themes.
So far the only Metal I can find with regular Rightwing or Rightwing-adjacent lyricism would be like Iced Earth, Carnivore, S.O.D, Drudkh, Forteresse, Megadeth, Overkill, & I guess some of Black Label Society, Avenged Sevenfold, PANTERA, & Type O Negative.

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Autopsyofhate
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 10:34 am 
 

Sepultura is a good one.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2023 11:54 am 
 

Five Finger Death Punch ?

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Endarkening
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 9:12 pm 
 

Before God certainly swing from the Right side.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2023 5:12 pm 
 

Endarkening wrote:
Before God certainly swing from the Right side.



The problem is that the OP does not want bands that dive deep into National Socialist themes. Before God do exactly that.
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HeavenDuff
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2023 4:21 pm 
 

Autopsyofhate wrote:
Sepultura is a good one.


How is Sepultura right-wing?

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MeavyHetal
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 8:51 am 
 

HeavenDuff wrote:
Autopsyofhate wrote:
Sepultura is a good one.


How is Sepultura right-wing?


That comment made me raise an eyebrow too, pretty sure Sepultura have always been a left-wing band both with Max and Derrick.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2023 9:48 am 
 

Iced Earth maybe?

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mirons
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 6:48 am 
 

In Tyrannos - although they have strong connections to the NS scene, In Tyrannos don't seem to have explicitly NS themed lyrics, instead focusing mostly on NWO and Illuminati on the first record and historical battles on the second. Pretty good heavily grooving mid-tempo thrash metal, think Demolition Hammer or Exhorder.




Also, some of Hypocrisy's stuff fits too, I think, especially from the latest album.

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linkavitch
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:55 am 
 

Havok lyrics are like listening to infowars that could work. Speaking of infowars there's this joke band that just use samples of Alex Jones rants called The Alex Jones Prison Planet.

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WulfKing
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2023 6:36 pm 
 

Spite Extreme Wing comes to mind. Vltra (2008) is the only release I've ever listed to. I wouldn't be surprised if some Nazi stuff is going on if you dived deep into the members' other band involvements, however.

The 'Lyrical Themes' listed here on the Archives just say Right-Wing Politics. I don't speak Italian, either.

The record is solid, though.

As far as Hypocrisy goes, I'm very hesitant to regard Peter's lyrical themes as right-wing, although I can see how some would, given media spin on subjects hes written about for years now. He obviously has an open mind and questions aspects of society/technology/technocracy/media/corporate narratives, etc;, but I've never associated questioning or thinking at least a little critically of such things as being latched to any place within a political spectrum. Still a band that may fit what you're looking for, however.

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elvenefrisian
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2023 7:33 am 
 

so you want a band that advocates for melting poor people rather than one that explicitly states their hatred for minorities?

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NbleSavage
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2023 11:26 am 
 

Kid Rock? lol

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Amosofnlm
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2023 3:07 pm 
 

Drudkh use the poetry of 19th and early 20th century poets as their lyrics and that's often quite right wing.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2023 4:38 am 
 

Peste Noire

They are quite often mislabeled as National Socialists
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2023 8:20 am 
 

I've mentioned this on another topic but Metallica's self-titled has a few that seem Right-Libertarian, "Don't Tread on Me" and "Wherever I May Roam" and such.

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SanPeron
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Non-racist, right-wing-themed metal is such a funny category to me. I guess you could think of stuff like Megadeth, Metallica, and Pantera.

I'm not so sure that the conservative-type guy listens to a lot of music. To be honest, most moderate right-wing guys that I know don't care that much for art. It's part of the right-wing mindset that you think of art and other forms of expression as not being productive in a capitalist society. I really don't know many bands that talk about free market economies, conservative values, and Christian religion and advocate a distaste for workers unions or governments involved in the economy. Such a random request, man.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2023 5:38 am 
 

they're hc punk rather than metal, but i figured the curiosity could be appreciated in the thread, so check out bob malmström if you're interested - the pro-capitalist punk thing is totally a gimmick tho', and doesn't necessarily reflect the opinions of any of the members
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SanPeron wrote:
Non-racist, right-wing-themed metal is such a funny category to me. I guess you could think of stuff like Megadeth, Metallica, and Pantera.

I'm not so sure that the conservative-type guy listens to a lot of music. To be honest, most moderate right-wing guys that I know don't care that much for art. It's part of the right-wing mindset that you think of art and other forms of expression as not being productive in a capitalist society. (...)


This is as correct an assessment as the ones that consider old-school lefties as raging totalitarian psychopaths, and new lefties as a bunch of good-for-nothing, pink-haired layabouts that don't care about a thing except hedonistic pleasure 24/7. When in doubt, it's always smarter to avoid generalizations.

As for what the OP asked, I'd say Megadeth is indeed the biggest example in mainstream metal when it comes to lyrics that might be construed as conservative (from an American standpoint). The ones to "Washington is Next!" almost look like a Mustaine/Alex Jones collab. Seriously now, most right-wing musicians I know (both in metal and otherwise) simply don't care much about injecting political discourse into their lyrics or band aesthetics. They seem to be more interested in music as escapism instead of a way to divulge their personal ideologies. For example, if we're talking about famous musicians, it's well known that Bruce Dickinson leans right, but we don't hear the man wailing about how you shouldn't vote for Labour.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2023 6:43 pm 
 

Dullahan wrote:
This is as correct an assessment as the ones that consider old-school lefties as raging totalitarian psychopaths, and new lefties as a bunch of good-for-nothing, pink-haired layabouts that don't care about a thing except hedonistic pleasure 24/7. When in doubt, it's always smarter to avoid generalizations.


There is some truth in what you just described, old school Marxists are indeed a weird bunch, they pray for Stalin and Hoxha, at least the ones who aren't Trotskyites. And the new left is indeed a bunch of pink-haired progressives that focus too much on gender and identity issues.

I described what a moderate right-wing guy would think, as a generalization, I don't think I wrote any lie. Don't be such a snowflake, as an American rightwinger would say.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 9:57 am 
 

A very interesting read is this thread. Being landlocked here in the states it's sometimes difficult to remember that politics affects the world. I usually don't pay attention to politics and if I do, I usually glaze over in a short amount of time. Talking heads are going to do just that: talk, talk.... talk.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2023 5:54 pm 
 

Good luck.
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werewolfgraveyard
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2024 8:23 am 
 

SanPeron wrote:
Dullahan wrote:
This is as correct an assessment as the ones that consider old-school lefties as raging totalitarian psychopaths, and new lefties as a bunch of good-for-nothing, pink-haired layabouts that don't care about a thing except hedonistic pleasure 24/7. When in doubt, it's always smarter to avoid generalizations.


There is some truth in what you just described, old school Marxists are indeed a weird bunch, they pray for Stalin and Hoxha, at least the ones who aren't Trotskyites. And the new left is indeed a bunch of pink-haired progressives that focus too much on gender and identity issues.

I described what a moderate right-wing guy would think, as a generalization, I don't think I wrote any lie. Don't be such a snowflake, as an American rightwinger would say.


??? I don't think you have any accurate conception of the leftist political landscape, your ideas are frankly backwards. Anyways just stick to the thread theme.

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SanPeron
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werewolfgraveyard wrote:
SanPeron wrote:
Dullahan wrote:
This is as correct an assessment as the ones that consider old-school lefties as raging totalitarian psychopaths, and new lefties as a bunch of good-for-nothing, pink-haired layabouts that don't care about a thing except hedonistic pleasure 24/7. When in doubt, it's always smarter to avoid generalizations.


There is some truth in what you just described, old school Marxists are indeed a weird bunch, they pray for Stalin and Hoxha, at least the ones who aren't Trotskyites. And the new left is indeed a bunch of pink-haired progressives that focus too much on gender and identity issues.

I described what a moderate right-wing guy would think, as a generalization, I don't think I wrote any lie. Don't be such a snowflake, as an American rightwinger would say.


??? I don't think you have any accurate conception of the leftist political landscape, your ideas are frankly backwards. Anyways just stick to the thread theme.


Yeah, I actually do. Which of my ideas is backward, friend? Stick to the thread theme, as you said, you too aren't mentioning any right-wing band.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2024 12:24 pm 
 

Forteresse is right win?

In response to the OP:

-Carnivore, are supposed to be satirical lyrics but many fans make no distinction and I actually think Peter Steele would be a right winger today.
-Destroyer 666
-Hesperia, I think their lyrics are borderline xenophobic.
-Impaled Nazarene, they are not supposed to be strictly NS, but they are fervent anti-communists.
-Kommodus, I don't know if it's right win, but they have a demo dedicated to Yukio Mishima, and I say it's not decisive because I know a lot of left wings who also like Mishima.

SanPeron wrote:
There is some truth in what you just described, old school Marxists are indeed a weird bunch, they pray for Stalin and Hoxha, at least the ones who aren't Trotskyites. And the new left is indeed a bunch of pink-haired progressives that focus too much on gender and identity issues.

I'm sorry to tell you that you have succumbed to the right-wing propaganda, but it has happened to many of us, it is possible to get out of it.
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Forever Underground wrote:
SanPeron wrote:
There is some truth in what you just described, old school Marxists are indeed a weird bunch, they pray for Stalin and Hoxha, at least the ones who aren't Trotskyites. And the new left is indeed a bunch of pink-haired progressives that focus too much on gender and identity issues.

I'm sorry to tell you that you have succumbed to the right-wing propaganda, but it has happened to many of us, it is possible to get out of it.


I think that we can caricature both left-wing and right-wing people with stereotypes, but I don't think that has to do with being in favor or against specific politics. In fact, the comment I made above that one was a stereotype of right-wing people.

SanPeron wrote:
I'm not so sure that the conservative-type guy listens to a lot of music. Most moderate right-wing guys that I know don't care that much for art. It's part of the right-wing mindset that you think of art and other forms of expression as not being productive in a capitalist society. I really don't know many bands that talk about free market economies, conservative values, and Christian religion and advocate a distaste for worker's unions or governments involved in the economy.


You see?
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Yeah right, you're not the brightest bulb, I think you made that clear from the very beginning so I'm not even going to bother.
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Forever Underground wrote:
Yeah right, you're not the brightest bulb, I think you made that clear from the very beginning so I'm not even going to bother.


Why the aggression man? I didn't say nothing bad to you. If you want to discuss something, just say it. But throwing random insults at people on the internet doesn't make any sense to me. I don't even know why are you offended.
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SanPeron wrote:

Yeah, I actually do. Which of my ideas is backward, friend? Stick to the thread theme, as you said, you too aren't mentioning any right-wing band.


With regards to what is backwards, "And the new left is indeed a bunch of pink-haired progressives that focus too much on gender and identity issues."

It's just, how are you that behind the curve? People were saying this same shit 7 years ago and it was just as dumb then. Also stigmatizing hair with fun colors is such a way to out yourself as someone who hasn't thought a day past last decade. Nobody cares. People have been making fun of y'all for so fucking long and you're still at it. "Goshdarn commies and their blue hair and pronouns". You're so out of touch with what the modern left actually is that I find it bizarre you even have the gall to think you know well. What next? You're gonna call yourself politically incorrect or say "woke"? Don't pretend you know the Left and what problems it has if you're this much of a caveman in political discourse. The day I believe right wingers know what leftists actually say is the day I see a right winger facetiously call themselves problematic but y'all are still stuck on every term nobody left actually uses.

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My god man, it was an stereotype.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2024 1:39 pm 
 

Maybe Primordial?

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SanPeron wrote:
My god man, it was an stereotype.


Only a certain kind of idiot jokes about that stereotype. It's not offensive or anything, it's hair color after all, all it does is out you as a kind of person because literally nobody but y'all make those jokes.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2024 10:27 am 
 

SanPeron wrote:
My god man, it was an stereotype.

What does "being too focused on gender and identity" mean? You can say what you want, but you're laughing along with the guy who means it in a real way, there's no stereotypical depth or commentary you're making. I find it very funny that you're so proud of being a leftist but this must be like the fourth time I've seen you drop your trousers at what a right-wing guy says, and by doing that you just look like a guy who is willing to disregard his values in order to be liked.

What is it for you to be "too focused" on gender identity and sexuality? Do you know that your country that you are so proud of is a PIONEER in LGTBIQ+ rights policies around the world? Why don't you understand that as part of your national identity that you like to brag so much about and instead you do it with the fucking Falklands that are just another example of oligarchic leaders sending their citizens to die in a useless war?

Really, you must like stereotypes, because every day you try your hardest to stereotype yourself more and more as a Pantera fan, being dumber than a rock.
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Fuck off Forever Underground, I made fun of two stereotypes, both left and right-wing. You are a crybaby, so sensible to a guy saying a joke about the progressive left on the internet. I tried to be nice to you, but with that comment, you demonstrated to me that you aren't very bright and are an arrogant European talking from a moral pedestal. You suck man.

And yeah, I love Pantera and I love Argentina, and I don't give two fucks about what a loser like you says about my country. Go wash your mouth before talking about my country, dumb ass.
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werewolfgraveyard wrote:
SanPeron wrote:
My god man, it was an stereotype.


Only a certain kind of idiot jokes about that stereotype. It's not offensive or anything, it's hair color after all, all it does is out you as a kind of person because literally nobody but y'all make those jokes.


And who are you to tell me if I can or not make a joke? I will laugh at any political ideology that I want and if you don't like it, I don't really care at all.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2024 5:48 pm 
 

Forever Underground wrote:
Do you know that your country that you are so proud of is a PIONEER in LGTBIQ+ rights policies around the world?


SanPeron wrote:
I don't give two fucks about what a loser like you says about my country.


SanPeron wrote:
You are a crybaby.


SanPeron wrote:
I don't even know why are you offended.


SanPeron wrote:
Go wash your mouth before talking about my country, dumb ass.

Thanks for showing yourself man, for real.

You like to call other babies crybabies and and how they get offended but you cry and get offended when I say something about your country.

But surprise, I didn't said anything about your country, well actually I did, I praised something about it, and look how angry you got, really, thanks for showing how pathetic and fragile you are.

Also

SanPeron wrote:
But throwing random insults at people on the internet doesn't make any sense to me.

Hypocrite :P
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Edit: Duplicated post while editing the first one
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SanPeron wrote:
werewolfgraveyard wrote:
SanPeron wrote:
My god man, it was an stereotype.


Only a certain kind of idiot jokes about that stereotype. It's not offensive or anything, it's hair color after all, all it does is out you as a kind of person because literally nobody but y'all make those jokes.


And who are you to tell me if I can or not make a joke? I will laugh at any political ideology that I want and if you don't like it, I don't really care at all.


You're free to make jokes but you aren't free from looking like a jackass when you continually act like one.

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Forever Underground wrote:
Forteresse is right win?

In response to the OP:

-Carnivore, are supposed to be satirical lyrics but many fans make no distinction and I actually think Peter Steele would be a right winger today.
-Destroyer 666
-Hesperia, I think their lyrics are borderline xenophobic.
-Impaled Nazarene, they are not supposed to be strictly NS, but they are fervent anti-communists.
-Kommodus, I don't know if it's right win, but they have a demo dedicated to Yukio Mishima, and I say it's not decisive because I know a lot of left wings who also like Mishima.



It's a shame, because I really like Carnivore and Impaled Nazarene. But, well, I also like Megadeth, Pantera and Metallica, so what can we do? lol

SanPeron wrote:
There is some truth in what you just described, old school Marxists are indeed a weird bunch, they pray for Stalin and Hoxha, at least the ones who aren't Trotskyites. And the new left is indeed a bunch of pink-haired progressives that focus too much on gender and identity issues.

I described what a moderate right-wing guy would think, as a generalization, I don't think I wrote any lie. Don't be such a snowflake, as an American rightwinger would say.


I know you are just trying to describe stereotypes, but the way you put it makes one think that you actually condone it, at least to some extent. Which, to me, is pretty much wrong.
I mean, there's no such thing as "old school Marxists" or "new left" as monolithic groups that could be described through such unsubstantial, vague features. I consider myself a Marxist and really don't give two fucks to Stalin or Hohxa, but I'm also not very much into Trotsky. Ever since Marx and Engels, there's A LOT of things going on about Marxism, which means that those stereotypes are really dumb and lacking of any truth.

About the so called new left, I don't think there's much truth about that either. Not only because of that stupid thing over the hair color, but also about "being too focused on gender and identity". I mean, it's pretty good that a part of the modern left finally gave a voice and a face to parts of the general population that even a huge extent of the old left, including Marxists, blatantly ignored or even despised for so long. Not everything is about class struggle per se, even if it's still a major and central issue of our world.

Anyway, sorry y'all for going all political, but I felt in the need to make some comments.

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SanPeron wrote:
Non-racist, right-wing-themed metal is such a funny category to me. I guess you could think of stuff like Megadeth, Metallica, and Pantera.

I'm not so sure that the conservative-type guy listens to a lot of music. To be honest, most moderate right-wing guys that I know don't care that much for art. It's part of the right-wing mindset that you think of art and other forms of expression as not being productive in a capitalist society. I really don't know many bands that talk about free market economies, conservative values, and Christian religion and advocate a distaste for workers unions or governments involved in the economy. Such a random request, man.


I know this is an old post, and I don't want to get involved with the earlier argument but I do want to add that this is incredibly false. I lean conservative on a number of issues, moderate on others. I wouldn't be here if music wasn't an incredibly important part of my life, but more importantly I'll also add that I'm a member of some other traditionally right leaning websites- mostly firearm related stuff- and there's constant discussion about music there too. Not as in depth as here obviously, being a music-centric website but tons of guys in bands, vinyl collectors, concert-goers, etc.
Even capitalists enjoy art, often quite deeply and it's an odd thing to claim otherwise.

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