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TheConqueror1
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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2017 10:23 pm 
 

I didn't know which help thread I should use for this genre. Are there any bands that fall under the category of melodic/brutal/techincal death metal which is infused with grindcore?

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Cthulhu_Fhtagn
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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 1:04 am 
 

Depths of Depravity

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Dep ... vity/22590
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-nF5df01dg
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IamDBR
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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 1:17 am 
 

A bit of a broad stroke approach here, tell me what you like:

Man Must Die (tech death w/ grind/melodic metalcore influences)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHVVGW-hH6k

Anaal Nathrakh (industrial/black metal/grind + melodic sections)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mg8StjT_xiE

Cattle Decapitation (death metal/grind w/ qausi-prog/melodic stuff)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RF-W8Dbtacs

First Fragment (neoclassical tech death w/ insane speeds & 'shreddery')
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-VwrUWnYgA&t=2307s

Death Itatrian Worship (slam/brutal death with tech, solos & general eccentricity)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XTI3hIGCTk&t=405s

Obsoletenova (free form tech/brutal death while still being rooted in melody)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiCeQSetNoc&t=658s

AngelMaker (deathcore with melodeath & black metal influence)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JZ-i8WgGIM&t=1804s

Aversions Crown (blast laden tech deathcore w/ atmospheric/ambient stuff)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrsyL4ldK0Q

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Hayisforhorses
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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 3:20 am 
 

Couple of possibilities:
Cephalectomy (aught to be on the money)
Youtube: show


Appalling Spawn (Lykathea Aflame also, more melodic but dont really fit the grind spec)
Youtube: show


!TOOH! (Not strictly bdm but savage enough)
Youtube: show


Circle of Dead Children (deathgrind and not overly technical, but brutal and throw an occasional melodic curve ball like this)
Youtube: show


Dying Fetus (may not be what you are after and maybe too obvious)
Youtube: show


Cryptopsy (too obvious?)
Youtube: show


Also possibly old Kataklysm (Gate, Sorcery, Temple basically the early stuff with Sylvain) and Suffocation maybe.


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Morn Of Solace
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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 3:49 am 
 

Gridlink's Longhena is an interesting mix of melodic tech death and grindcore.
I don't think it's 100% coherent, but has it's own moments of brilliance :)

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TheConqueror1
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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 7:15 pm 
 

Excellent recs guys! By the way, are there any experimental black/death or experimental sludge albums I should look into?

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Metantoine
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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 7:19 pm 
 

TheConqueror1 wrote:
Excellent recs guys! By the way, are there any experimental black/death or experimental sludge albums I should look into?

Have you heard Sludge? Bonkers sludge with death/black metal influences. I'll try to remember to post more recs later on.
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TheConqueror1
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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 7:42 pm 
 

Metantoine wrote:
TheConqueror1 wrote:
Excellent recs guys! By the way, are there any experimental black/death or experimental sludge albums I should look into?

Have you heard Sludge? Bonkers sludge with death/black metal influences. I'll try to remember to post more recs later on.


I'm not understanding what you are saying. I apologize for that. Could you describe that post you made?

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Wilytank
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PostPosted: Thu May 11, 2017 7:55 pm 
 

There's a band called Sludge. That's what he's recommending. :P

TheConqueror1 wrote:
Excellent recs guys! By the way, are there any experimental black/death or experimental sludge albums I should look into?


The entire discography of the UK band Abyssal. http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Abyssal/3540341441

Super off-kilter black/death metal that some times sounds like more melodic dissonant Deathspell Omega-esque music mixed with caverncore parts and some slower chugging parts. All their albums sound different, so it's hard to really properly explain the distribution of their elements.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTkU-ADAXK0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgxE43OgWr4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3mgDkuzR6g
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Hayisforhorses
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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2017 2:01 am 
 

Gasp - fucked up sludge/powerviolence sort of like grief meets butthole surfers.
Youtube: show


Khanate - torturous sludge doom drone, try Things Viral lp
Though all are good.

Cattlepress - noisy sort of post-metal Sludge band
Youtube: show


Kiss It Goodbye - abrasive metalcore/sludge hybrid
Youtube: show


If you enjoy those last two I'd also suggest:
Breach - especially their Venom LP though It's me god and Collapse are also great but less sludgy.

Ire - the I discern an overtone of tragedy LP, great Neurosis influenced sludgy metalcore/post-hardcore.


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IamDBR
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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2017 2:38 am 
 

TheConqueror1 wrote:
Excellent recs guys! By the way, are there any experimental black/death or experimental sludge albums I should look into?

Coffinworm (black/sludge)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0lhTFGiHj0

Dragged Into Sunlight (black/death/doom)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LtJV60xVbA&t=1614s

Lord Mantis (black/sludge)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_MI1-x3c30

Wolvhammer (black/sludge)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVL9-6HLZE0

Book of Black Earth (black/death/crust)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFYl-kFfEXk

Drug Honkey (psychedelic/death/doom)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmhtF8Fn5lQ

The Lion's Daughter (prog/sludge)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotatio ... uppT7AWj-U

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Hayisforhorses
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PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2017 4:22 am 
 

Forget to mention Scald - Headworm (weird Irish sludge/doom/grind hybrid)
https://irish-metal.bandcamp.com/album/ ... dworm-2003

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islwnd
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PostPosted: Mon May 15, 2017 11:39 am 
 

         Introduction             wrote:
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Definitely not a replacement for other posts or the archive.
This post won't be updated. Do whatever you want with it (even though it's mine).
DISCLAIMER: Only the most extreme genre combinations were included. Religious and sexual themes weren't included.
The releases in this list were found based on review scores, but also filtered to my taste of what is "good" in each genre.
Therefore this should only ever serve as a "starter kit" in each combination. Some of the genres in this list weren't re-visited for this post but were from memory - those were marked with #, and those missing very much were marked with @.
If you want to do your own research, one way to start is Firefox (I recommend disabling Prefetching to avoid stressing your internet & MA's), with Snap Links Plus 2.4.3 (must be that specific version) set at 750ms (faster: 500ms, slower: 1000ms). Then you need MA's search, and patience depending on the number of bands. Instructions: When you have a bunch of links to open in a new tab, then in order to form a selection rectangle, once your cursor is in proximity to your first desired link, hold your set hotkey(s), then once held, use the scroll bar with left click or press the middle mouse button in order to reach whatever point in the page you wish the selection to end at, then after selecting as you wish, let go of the hotkey(s), and then wait without switching tabs depending on the amount of links and the set delay. Once you see no more blue flashing next to the new tab "+" button you may switch tabs (if you want to be able to look at tabs while others are opening, go to about:config by typing it in the address bar, then search for browser.tabs.insertRelatedAfterCurrent and set it to False), and if you find closing tabs with the mouse mechanically tiring, you can use Ctrl+W. Note I didn't come up with an automatic filtering of tabs based on review scores, which you might do; since I didn't see the need for it when searching for most mixed genres.

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Rippingheadache
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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 7:18 pm 
 

Cephalic Carnage - Hailing form Colorado, these guys play an interesting mix of technical death metal and grindcore but occasionally dabbles in stoner rock and other avant-garde sensibilities. Really insane stuff.

Fuck the Facts - Similar to CC, FtF also play some wildly complex death metal/grindcore but with their own unique stamp. Elements of noise rock and post-metal can sometimes be heard in their music.

I honestly wish this type of adventurous technical death/grind hybrid would be more popular these days. It's honestly my favorite sub-genre if one can call it that.

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Metantoine
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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2017 10:41 pm 
 

TheConqueror1 wrote:
Metantoine wrote:
Have you heard Sludge? Bonkers sludge with death/black metal influences. I'll try to remember to post more recs later on.


I'm not understanding what you are saying. I apologize for that. Could you describe that post you made?

Sorry, I just mispelled Slugdge, my bad!

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Slugdge/3540366277

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TheConqueror1
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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2017 12:27 pm 
 

I have been getting such excellent recs from everybody who posted bands. I'd like one more rec though. Are there any good technical black metal bands?

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IamDBR
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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2017 12:40 pm 
 

Direwolf; more prog/shred oriented
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KA6wCa8JUd8

Deathspell Omega; punishing dissonance, insane drums
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pa-gruFS1Q&t=1084s

Dodecahedron; taking the DSO sound to new places
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1X55Zm ... Np_0MC4ctC

Drottnar; not really familiar w/ most of their stuff tbh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zf06zLdXX0

Abigor
; melodic, prog, atmospheric
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vl_LTFVnwMo

Mayhem; not necassarily technical but sounds pretty mechanical & oppressive imo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7UXhgh ... 3SAUO5LD6X

Krallice; more in the post-black/blackgaze vein
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxELTeTmE0k

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Unity
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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2017 2:24 pm 
 

TheConqueror1 wrote:
I have been getting such excellent recs from everybody who posted bands. I'd like one more rec though. Are there any good technical black metal bands?


Emperor's "IX Equilibrium" is pretty technical. Also try Mezzerschmitt. And I second late Mayhem.
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Morn Of Solace
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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2017 4:33 am 
 

Thy Darkened Shade are an excellent technical black metal band: the second album is loaded with frenzied riffs and and has really good bass playing too.
Very raccomended!

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