This is a strange one. I am actually curious about this too, even though I havn't had the heart to listen to the last one. Everyone says it is terrible, and all the artwork and titles just scare me off completely. I loved the first 2 albums

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Bleed was such an amazing album and really got me into them. I then went back and checked out Border of Reality which i enjoyed, but not quite as much as Bleed. Took me a while to get around to checking out Into the Dark Past and To Dust You Will Decay. Just recently started rocking Enlighten the Darkness. Definitely near the top of the list of bands that we will probably never hear from again but hope they reappear.

Bleed and Enlighten the Darkness are modern PM classics. Some of the best of the whole 'dark power metal' movement from those days - a movement I wish would have a resurgence, because it never got the recognition it deserved.

Saw Angel Dust live once...I enjoyed them but never ended up checking their albums. maybe I should.

As for Nokturnal mortem, it's obvious that politics doesn't sell. The band is doing very well these days so of course they don't want to scare away potential young folk metal fans.

This could be true haha I have always liked their music, NS or not. The only album I dislike is To The Gates Of Blasphemous Fire

Is Sinister Mist an earlier incarnation of Forefather?

Both come from Surrey, have 2 members, have similar lyrical themes and a lot of musical similarities?

What the fuck happened to Interlock's last album? It was supposed to come out in 2007 or 2008, they released one full song and a video trailer for the album (in which we could hear a lot of different tracks so it seemed to be finished), and then they suddently splitted. Is the album gone forever,or is there a way to listen to it?

One of metal's greatest mysteries for me: what is it that John Arch sings at the very end of Fates Warning's Kyrie Eleison? I have listened to this song for years, I have researched its lyrics in many places, and apparently no one, anywhere, knows.

After coming across her Facebook and specific interviews, I always wondered if Audrey cheated on Neige with Valfunde, causing the end of Amesoeurs and her definitive entrance on Peste Noire.

i think voice of steel has a vague reference to aryans maybe in one song and that's all, the previous one was the same. the only one that really goes full on NS in the lyrics is Nechrist, i don't remember anything on goat horns or to the gates of blasphemous fire or lunar poetry that goes any further than references to Ukrainian national pride or whatever. goat horns has like a swastika in the booklet i think though.

I remember something like that, and in the 2010 official re-release of goat horns they completed removed anything hinting at that. The booklet only has pictures of nature on the left pages and the band members on the right.

http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?release=2205988

The band (or at least Varggoth, the brains behind the operation) has appeared to renounce his racist views and NS political beliefs. See here for yourself:

"Salute! Many things change as years pass by – including our world-outlook. If I say that today I am a same person that I was fifteen years ago, when “Nechrist” was created, I would be a hypocrite. And changes in me inevitably bring the changes to Nokturnal Mortum. Henceforth Nokturnal Mortum is a Sun shining through the night. We create music which is open for everyone who has got the strength to be a human and to walk the path of creation that passes from the depths of the ages. In eternal search for truth we deny all the labels which ever were put on us. Now we draw the inspiration from the beginning of times when gods lived among the men, when emotions and senses ruled the world and spiritual foundation of mankind was forged of elements and cosmic energies. That’s why new album “Істина” (“The Truth”) will open the new epoch in our history. Thereby, one of the first steps that we consider to be necessary to take is a total change of our logo. All the professionals who have abilities and desire to create the new logotype for Nokturnal Mortum should write to [email protected]. Let us know about your propositions, ideas and terms of cooperation under which you would like to work with us. Maybe logo made by one of you will become the symbol, under which we shall continue our musical journey – that, as I hope, will last for a long time.
Varggoth, 22nd of March, 2014."

(via NM's facebook page)

lol
What interviews? I thought she was just an acquaintance of them both.

I've always wondered this too!!

they're still playing at some shows in support of Ukrainian nationalist groups though, so i dunno how sincere they are

Well, Neige and Audrey have divergent stories on why did Amesoeurs broke up. Plus the band's last release was shortly before Peste Noire went all way Audrey with Ballade cuntre lo anemi Francor, which makes us presume they broke up while she was... huh... spending a lot of time with Neige.

Plus Neige invited another woman to sing with him in Shelter (first songs with female vocals since Audrey performed in "Sur l'autre rive je t'attendrai") and Facebook says she's "in a relationship" with Valfunde.

It may be just crazy speculation but, well, the hypothesis as a whole isn't absurd.

Actually, yeah, it's pretty absurd. And there's a vague hint of sexism to the whole 'hypothesis' on top of it.

Getting back to the '60s & '70s, it's of course up to the individual to decide what's hard rock in their book. To some people the curling & virile feedback that drawls from Hendrix's '67 Are You Experienced? (notably "Fire", "Purple Haze", "Foxy Lady" & "Manic Depression") could be the start of it all (if you don't count Cream as the first stone turned over in an overall quest for the babystepping first vibes of hard rock).

Or maybe it's Love's "7 & 7 Is" from '66:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6An7KGK6U3c , but probably isn't heavy enough for most, yet for '66.... Somehow this song found its way onto a Sons of Anarchy episode during a chase scene.

Back to '67 = check out Jeff Beck's (when they were The Jeff Beck Group) "Beck's Bolero", especially around 1:38 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmO0OZC6Ifk - while it's off his '68 debut Truth, the song was released as a single in '67.

Or perhaps it's The Beatles' '68 single version of "Revolution" or the same year "Helter Skelter" off the White Album? Sure, we all know about Blue Cheer's cover of "Summertime Blues" which is almost always included on most lists on the subject.

Staying in '68 for awhile, we'll add Deep Purple's "Mandrake Root" reinforced by "And the Address" & "Prelude: Happiness" from their debut. Yeah, yeah, Iron Butterfly's short n' sweet "In a Gadda Da Vida" is represented as well as -sigh- Steppenwolf's "Born to be friggin' Wild" that I'm totally sick of. Hendrix pops up again with the roaring "Voodoo Child" from Electric Ladyland. The somewhat confusing journey of "Dazed & Confused", here played by The Yardbirds, deserves a lit torch - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rM9BVNTyF4. And of all things, a reaching mention of Donovan's "Hurdy Gurdy Man" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqhxK_g9mrA - made remotely possible here by The Jeff Beck Group & their haunting psyche-doom background undertow. Like I said, a reach.

Okay, those are the big name dogs, but smaller cages aren't bereft of angry canines:

The Bubble Puppy's "Hot Smoke & Sassafras" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vqfKR2JMXs - the main song from their '69 A Gathering of Promises lp, but the song itself was released as a single in '68.

The often-cited-as-proto-punk Les Goths' "Turn Over" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQLa0k9B ... 9B3_M#t=37

For shits n' giggles I'll mention Floating Bridge's "Watch Your Step" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeIbEo0b1KM - from their '69 s/t lp, but like Bubble Puppy, the song was initially released as a single in '68.

And finally The Hook, a US band lost to the folds of total obscurity, with "Son of Fantasy" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYRq8ES2p-E

I'd move beyond '68, but it's like 5:30am and I'm gonna hit the sack. Tomorrow's another day, eh?

1969 was a little more fruitful for hard rock and not just because of the arrival of Zeppelin (no need to add links for this obvious stuff), Deep Purple's "Chasing Shadows" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml611LwvbLk -, Alice Cooper's "No Longer Umpire" from their debut - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4ulueVf2nA -, MC5's "Kick Out the Jams" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XhQRFO4M7A (the uncensored version here, & for those of you unfamiliar with this tune's censorship issues, the censored version has the singer yelling "Kick out the jams, brothers n' sisters" at the start, while the original replaces 'brothers n' sisters' with 'motherfuckers'.), & The Stooges' "I Wanna Be Your Dog" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwmU343eBu0.

For the obscure:
- The UK's Andromeda with "Keep Out Cos I'm Dying" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsQbOY0An9U
- Arrogance's "Black Death" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80D8e1ih-Cc - released as a single in '69.
- Arzachel's "Leg" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ia00Sild5s4
- The screwy Edgar Broughton Band with "Evil" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z95rOCYJU-Y - & "Why Can't Somebody Love Me" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_uCA4UNa7c - from their Wasa Wasa album.
- Josefus' "Situation" (can't find the '69 version from their Get Off My Case lp on Youtube, so this is the '70 version from their Dead Man lp - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMJwB_Nwzws
- Sound of Imker's "See Those Girls" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wk261u1DQdo - & "Train of Doomsday" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CFPMw8-Q-M -, which incidentally is the only material the band ever released.
- The Misunderstood with the dark-eyed menace of "Golden Glass" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zifq3s5OeF0 -, a band that would later go on to form High Tide. For some reason "Futilist's Lament" has disappeared from Youtube along with most of their Sea Shanties album, but check 'em out.
- Yesterday's Children with "Paranoia" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRXioZ0te30
- From Japan, Yuya Uchida and The Flowers with "Psychedelic Flowers" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ie4COxiUjjg - a guy who would have lots to do with the semi-legendary The Flower Travellin' Band.
- And last but definitely not least, Scotland's Writing on the Wall with "Child on a Crossing" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7C9we7wf78 -, "Lucifer Corpus" which interestingly resembles the narrative structure of Sabbath's "Black Sabbath" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7tCV-4H-j0 -, and the keyboard n' guitar frenzy of "Aries" (go right to 7:10 for the whirlwind) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6_uyQNjoQ0 - one of my faves from the period.

But we all know the shit hits the fan when 1970 rolls up.

Why not create a new thread for the last two messages ?

Yeah, uh, maybe I missed something, or I'm really dense, but Gutterscream...the fuck was that about? o.O

It was continuing the conversation on page 5 involving Ill-Starred Son, Caspian, DoomMetalAlchemist, OzzyApu, Erosion of Humanity, sulieman, Zerberus, & Conservationism about hard rock in the '60s and '70s. I was just giving more examples.

Who the fuck is "Solomon Kane" and are they really a doom band from 1982?
And will this band
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=101415&p=2325802
ever be found? It's starting to piss me off how difficult to find they are.

Solomon Kane was Rich Walker and a drummer (someone from Anathema, if I'm not mistaken) making a spoof NWOBHM/doom single. They weren't a real band.