Yes!! Agreed again: I'm 38, and I first got into metal in 1992 at 12 years old. My first metal show was in 1996 (Cannibal and Grave), so I grew up during the dark years of metal for sure. The scenario I was talking about was early mid 90's to maybe early 2000's. Dark days for metal indeed. I honestly believe there's so much more talent nowadays, and a stronger scene thanks to the internet. Lol, things were so different then. Damn I'm old!!!

Make no mistake I would have mentioned Korn if they were on the archives. Thank Odin they are not.

I'm willing to bet Metallica influenced tons of even worse bands.

Well, yeah, you know that's how it goes - back when you were into metal in the 90s that was how it was, but I looked at that material kinder because I didn't experience it. It's all relative.

I just picked up on the comment because I'm the same age and also went to my first gig in '96, although, I got into metal a couple of years earlier when I first heard Maiden and Metallica. My first gig was Metallica, '96, at Earl's Court Arena, London. First CD purchase; Master of Puppets, and my second–Vulgar Display of Power, and while I still enjoy aspects of Puppets, I can't stand that era of Pantera and whatever shit it bred. I prefer Power Metal and Cowboys, which I picked up after I got VDOP; they're far better than the shit peddled out afterwards.

I'll give Vulgar a pass since it has my favorite Pantera tune, Mouth for War. It also has my least favorite tune, Walk.

Much as I love Pantera's music, this is accurate. Pantera have not passed a single good idea onto future metal generations. Most of Nightwish's questionable moments on the first 5 albums all stem from Pantera tributes.

All these band names seem like he got a random band name generator and went with the first thing it spit out.

I'm curious which Nightwish songs you mean. Second half of Slaying the Dreamer, maybe?

I'd like to know where the Pantera influence fits into "Swanheart".

That song sounds like it was influenced by Megadeth more than anybody else to me. Even Nightwish's downtuned era sounds like it's taking more cues from Rammstein and Evanescence than Pantera.

Lots of terrible metalcore type bands I see on here like Luddite Clone, Whitechapel, etc.

Glad to see Dillinger Escape Plan not on here, worst band.

Also Meshuggah is terrible music and on here, sure it's metal but with jarring rhythms and dumb ideas

Car Door Dick Smash, no question about it

I actually had to look up to see if Car Door Dick Smash was a real band. Apparently they are; I actually listened to a couple tracks.
Like a lot of modern day joke thrash bands, like For example Pizza Face, Thrash or Die, etc. the worst thing I can say about this band is that they are really, really fucking stupid. Trying to be funny, thrash with humor, whatever with boring rehashed riffs, yeah its been done before and overall Car Door Dick Smash is just forgettable, dumb and mediocre. They may be among the stupidest bands but by no means the worst.

How I would quantify "worst" is zero playing talent, along with horrible music that would suck even if the musicians were brilliant.

For example, Meshugguh are great musicians but their music is terrible. There are plenty of bands where the musicianship is amateurish at best, but one could almost enjoy their music- I'm thinking of a lot of early South American death metal and raw black metal here.

Jewicide and Tank Genocide cant play their instruments, and even if you have Alexi Laiho or fucking Yngwie Malmsteen in the band the music would still suck. (Plus, fuck that Nazi bullshit.) So, my vote for worst band on the archives would be one of these two, or at least, someone along those lines. Or that weird ass Exmortes band from the Netherlands back in the early 90s, that would record an entire song that was basically one note- no idea what was up with that.

Anything that's depressive/suicidal/drone/or fucking post-metal. Those bands ARE FUCKING HORRIBLE.

They don't even sound metal, at all especially drone and post-whatever. They "music" is damn liquid that feel like wet diarrhea... nothing sounds fucking solid.

Shit bands like Sunn 0))) that praise that has literally no music at all. There is also that geek known as Ildjarn has an album called Landscapes which spans onto 2 discs with nothing but minimal 3 keyboard chords throughout. How the fuck does this get any grade? What's so fucking metal about this? The guy looks like Ang from Avatar: The Last Airbender.

"Sloth" is pretty shit, as well. He or they pump out singles every day and they suck as hard as anything. I don't get the point other than "Hur-hur-we are funny!!"

Sloth are a long-running joke that has run its course long ago. You could make a pretty strong case for them being the worst on here. However, their early stuff, when they were still had some semblance of being an actual band, was average to decent Nirvana-styled grungy punk/sludge/metal- whatever you call it, it was actual music- although it was far from outstanding even back then.

Kind of shocked no one has mentioned Six Feet Under yet.

All of their albums have piles of negative reviews on here.

They became a laughingstock with Graveyard Classics II.

If not for that, their music ranges from merely bad to decent.

Somehow, I think that makes it even worse.

Correct.




There isn't, Oceanborn probably has the least amount.




What Megadeth song were you listening to? Up until 2002 no way would Dave write something that wiggerish. Perhaps I could stand corrected on Evanescence but I think that would make it much, much worse. Besides Tuomas and Jukka admit Pantera's influence in the Nightwish biography.

THANK YOU!!!!

I swear... DSBM is HORRIBLE!!! include Drone "Metal (If you wanna call it metal)" while you are at it.

Pantera was the start of the slower, groovier and muscular Metal songs that we see currently in the industry. The blueprints towards Metalcore, Djent, Nu Metal, Modern Thrash Metal, Deathcore and some modern Melodic Death Metal can lay here. I can't blame people for talking about the negatives of Pantera as did have many franchise original sins (tv tropes term) that have plagued modern metal. Yet the blueprints towards the modern metal sound that Pantera revolutionized can be found in Master Of Puppets and South Of Heaven.

I disagree with Ultraboris on many things but I do think he has a point about the simplification and formuliacness that plagues modern metal.

At least the all drone no metal stuff has been purged from the archives over the years. I believe Moon D]]] was listed here once.

You really don't like drone though, do ya? I remember you made this thread a couple years back: https://www.metal-archives.com/board/vi ... 1&t=111195

I even posted in it!

You're not cut out for life if you're into DSBM huh? Ya don't fuckin say

Yup, I really can't stand it. It's all wimpy shrieks and 3 chords plucked on a guitar for 20+ minutes... how the fuck is this called Metal?

It annoys me big time. Shining from Sweden, at least, changed their genre to a more melodic approach but hey, they have some distortion in their guitars with riffs.

So yeah... not a fan of DBS(Whatever) and Drone Shit. Maybe, it's an acquired taste that I don't get but whatever... give me some fucking Thrash Metal anyday.

I am an obsessive fan of Funeral Doom. If I have to pick which one of the bands I heard that would be the flat-out worst, however, I would go with Крылья (Krylja / Wings) and Асмодеевы Крылья (Asmoday's Wings). Everything is pretty much a riff salad with no time signature and terrible grunts layered on top. Instruments are not in time with each other, the drum machine seems particularly random.

It certainly doesn't help that the "band photo" is of some dude that looks like a juggalo.

I want to "say everything Count Orlok has done" but I'll be fair and leave it at Krigskygge because that's the only project by him where I've listened to at least half of the discography. And believe me, that was a fucking waste of time.

I tried to listen to his Beelzebub project and everything about it was awful. Idiotic, over-used song titles ("Black Dreams of War", "Eternal Winter"...), songs with one or two riffs devoid of any creativity, boring vocals... That's what happens when you love bm so much you decide to become a musician and feel so secure about your music that you start building songs on mediocre and boring riffs, repeating them for five minutes or more. Result? People start to rightfully mock you in reviews.

My absolute top pick would definitely be Cake Fart Prolapse but they aren't on the archives so I present you with the following: Jackhammer Sphincter Removal, Intestinal Pandemic, Laboratory of Mortuary, Satanic Corpse, KeyDragon, Tank Genocide, Thrash Queen, and a million and a half backwater gorenoise bands that aren't on the archives.
Corpse Carving, Purulent, and Ursus Horribilis are pretty bad but not on the same level as the aforementioned

And yet, I'll take any of this over Linkin Park :/

Zarach 'Baal' Tharagh.

/thread

the brazilian heavy metal band ''Skull and Bones''. You can tell by their video clips that they are real professionals. The guitars, the vocals, the over all sound, all is great.

Much like the guy who said pick a few drone metal bands I have a broad example as well.

I hate to be "that guy" but I went through all the deathcore bands on here and it was excruciatingly unbearable. You could pick almost all of them. I have a few obscure ones that I can tolerate but it really is the worst genre I've ever heard. Almost all of them are the same, very derivative. I could say the same about a majority of metalcore bands but there are 2.5x more of them on here than deathcore and I don't see myself going through them all to find the few that are tolerable or at least not any time soon. I went through all the nu metal and djent bands before, they all sucked for the most part. But that's just my opinion on the bands in those genres, so no offense if anyone enjoys the stuff.

The Christian death metal band Metanoia is pretty bad: https://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Metanoia/3275
I usually skip over and forget the really really bad bands. If I remember some that weren't mentioned before I'll definitely share them in the future.

Objectively Sloth used to be the worst on here. It took some time for my laptop/browser to proceed all that long "discography" containing myriad of digital singles. I can see now all these singles gone after the bandcamp removal. So these days the worst band on the archives would be some other band having long-ass discography and having shitty music/non-music.

Here is the archived 5FDP page from before they were purged from this database:
http://web.archive.org/web/200912112019 ... p?id=99713

You mention Metanoia. Mortification, too, were excellent early on but later albums such as The Silver Cord and Brain Cleaner were extremely poor.

I don't see how you could argue this is the worst this site has to offer, unless you just abhor at times thrashy, at times doomy DM. There's far worse around than this.

I have a bile fascination of seeing the reviews of nü metal bands or nü albums. I already hound the ones I can find, with Skinlab being the nadir of nü metal on this archive.


Here's the link. Direct your 0% reviews here.

There's something magical about reading reviews for what few nü metal acts/albums scuttled through the site's filters by technicality. For öld-metal bands like Metallica and Slayer, their efforts skirting near the nü/groove scene are always their lowest scoring albums despite being some of the best the genre has to offer. And then you get the real deal. The dejectedness and hatred oozing out of these reviews towards mallcore leaves you feeling something approaching a new emotion, a mixture between beguilement, joy, and disgust. And it's left me wondering "What if the admins let in the nü kids on the block? What would the Encyclopædia Metallum reviews for Mudvayne and Limp Bizkit look like?"

Maybe it's just my preference for them, but I have a weird feeling that if System of a Down was on here, they'd be averaging somewhere in the 60s through 80s. I feel they've accrued too much credibility and goodwill to be dragged into a single-digit abyss. And that first Korn album would probably have a better score than some expect. I've said before that it's essentially "If Primus met Buzzoven." It's not a bad album, and on its own merits there are plenty of very interesting ideas that could've gone somewhere if they kept up a sludge-funk direction and shifted from "white gangsta wannabe-psycho teen angst" to "misanthropy."

And then they kept making albums, and we got mallcore dreck like A.D.I.D.A.S. and its epic, definitely-written-by-a-grown-up lyrics. And then it all goes wrong. I already 100% expect some bands like P.O.D., Otep, and Dope wouldn't have a single studio album above 10%. Slipknot'll struggle between their fans and the ones who despise everything about them so those scores'll be wild and all over the place. Coal Chamber's reception will be as dark as a coal chamber.

And I'd love to see Ultraboris's opinions on the rich textures, emotional resonance, and raw brutality of Chocolate Starfish and the Hot-Dog Flavored Water.

And remember my friends, here's the link to Skinlab's archive page again. Just to remind you that they, of all bands, are hosted here. They are indeed on Metal Archives.

Or you like feeling what it's like being depressed when that's not something you've experienced before. Maybe that's it. What a load of shit. Yes DSBM is my favorite genre of all time.

Would have to say Thrash is up there on the absolute shit list.

I wouldn't call them great, but it's still hard to imagine this is the absolute worst this site has to offer. People here are allergic to most groove metal, but I'd say this is decent enough for what it is.