I couldn't disagree more. The well is far from empty, I'm pretty sure they refill it with water from the well of youth.

Maybe the well is not empty yet, but it reeks sullied water.

There is some good riffs but there is no spirit binding them together. It's like the Frankeinstein monster.

A corpse with no soul.

A corpse without a soul.

I feel Darkthrone saw that their well was running dry, and went to find a new well.

This kinda reminds me of the thread with the controversial opinions. A bunch of people disagreeing with a popular opinion.

Have you actually heard the albums Kreator, Sodom and Destruction did in the 90s? Not exactly anything to write home about, the majority of them.

not quite, it's slightly different. i won't deny it 100%, though. but i honestly do see a serious drop in quality of metal coming out these days, particularly from the majority of its "heroes" and it annoys me. the cynic in me (most of me) feels like at some point "songwriting" became "produced by andy sneap omg!!!" and this is enough for everyone now.

Veracs: it'll sound weird, but i actually think manowar only JUST started to suck on their last album. i even like gods of war... well, a couple of tracks on it, anyway.

I agree that Iron Maiden's well is empty. I absolutely love Iron Maiden, but their last 4 albums or so meander way too much. It would be one thing if they filled that length with ideas of substance, but instead we just get hammered with repetitive choruses, unimaginative riffs, and formulaic songwriting. The music just comes off as being so uninspired compared to what it used to be.

varg might be a nutter, but at least he's pumping out quality, at a good pace.

There is poison in the well (see what I did there) that poison isn't the bands themselves but rather the labels they are on wanting deadlines met and the next album to be rolled out year after year without so much of a respite for the band to come up with new influence. Even if a band does come up with anything original the labels want the next 'big thing' to sell instead of taking a risk and let the music do the talking.

Maiden just needs to quit trying to be prog or something and stop with the slow intro, 7+ minute repetitive song, slow outro crap. Write some 3-4 minute fast songs again! Hopefully there are more Smith/Dickinson tracks on the new one.

However some bands that I think DO fit this thread, CANNIBAL CORPSE. Their well ran dry with Tomb of the Mutilated but they still keep on dragging it...seriously people come to your shows to hear the Hammer Smashed Faces and I Cum Bloods, no one gives two shits about Unleashing the Bloodthirsty, Priests of Sodom or Disfigured.

Iron Maiden has been AWESOME as of late, Brave New World totally revitalized them and they've been doing quality stuff ever since.

a bald-faced lie

mac i generally agree with you on most things, but here with kreator at least (haven't heard the others' 90s output) i have to take the same line as i have with the big 4. endorama and outcast are enjoyable, in a sense. violent revolution onwards is just by-the-numbers post-2000 metal.

Total fucking bullshit. Everyone who doesn't praise "Bloodthirst" as the pinacle of Corpse is just speaking out of their ass. In fact, that's certainly not only the best that band ever did, it's also one of the best death metal records PERIOD and I'd trade ANYTHING they did early on with barns twice over for those 34 minutes of supreme music.

You're out of your freakin mind

Not at all.

Many comments id like to respond!

IMO Post reunion Maiden its AWESOME! since Bruce returned they released some of their best material since Seventh Son Of A Seventh Son, in fact The Final Frontier its their weakest work and it still kicks asses.

Talking about Metallica its a big trouble for everyone, all the people in here has listened to Metallica, they got sooooo freakingly big that its difficult to have a discussion about their music without talking about the monster (and the fucking brand) the band became, lets just say Death Magnetic its at least a great step forward in their "recent" (since Black Album) discography and, in my personal take, its a great fucking album. Of course, they are not in their best moment when it comes to creativity...well at least they sound cool at live performances nowadays.

Megadeth its a tricky one...the power of Megadeve´s guitar has been always there, there´s not a single album without freakingly good riffs or solos at some point, their high musicianship sums up a lot to the final product, but lyricaly and in therms of originality they have been running out of ideas (as many other seasoned metal gods) indeed...much of their recent stuff sounds like outtakes from their golden era: similar structures, similar themes, similar melodies...but for god sake they have released almost 14 albums! thats a BIG number and they´ve managed to keep it funny and heavy, to say the least!


There are much worse cases in metal, being the most obvious Manowar. I may be a little biased on this one, but IMO the Manowarriors have been embarrasing themselves for over 2 decades with bland and mediocre albums.

Annihilator its another lost case...what a debut album and what a follow up! total classics! but then a storm of shitness stomped the guitar master Jeff Waters, who has only released halfassed/halfbaked speed metal albums eversince.

Theres also that GIANT bunch of melodeath bands that became uter crap at some point and really need to break up now for their honor´s sake. (In Flames, Soilwork, Children of Bodom, The Haunted, Arch Enemy)

There is poison in the well (see what I did there) that poison isn't the bands themselves but rather the labels they are on wanting deadlines met and the next album to be rolled out year after year without so much of a respite for the band to come up with new influence.

There is poison in the well (see what I did there) that poison isn't the bands themselves but rather the labels they are on wanting deadlines met and the next album to be rolled out year after year without so much of a respite for the band to come up with new influence.

Record album schedules have been getting longer and longer for decades. In the 1960s, bands released multiple albums a year and a 3-4 year wait was almost unheard of. Bands managed to do just fine, and often better because they recorded a lot more material while the fire was still hot. Really it seems like "the well" is more a function of time than music recorded--even when you're doing nothing, "the well" is still evaporating into thin air little by little, so you might as well use it before you lose it.

well from what I've seen of you here you have some very questionable tastes anyway so whatever floats yer boat

Maybe listen to some bands that aren't 20 years old?

You've got some pretty questionable tastes there yourself, bud.

varg might be a nutter, but at least he's pumping out quality, at a good pace.