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dreadmeat
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 1:45 am 
 

Mayking and MPO are different [plants]
Mayking is usually US and MPO is usually EUR ["usually"] :roll:

I have this version of Realm Of Chaos by the way
http://www.discogs.com/Bolt-Thrower-Realm-Of-Chaos-Slaves-To-Darkness/release/4317889
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 12:07 pm 
 

Regarding the Marauder CD, it is an original. I don't think anyone would bother making a bootleg of this very little known release. Hardly any point.

I suspect that the seller is a very respectable member of the Greek Metal community, but I am not sure, so I am not dropping any names. As for those negative feedbacks he had received, most of them were about releases that have never been officially available in CD format (Moonblood), or about compilations that the fans are well aware that they are unofficial. Well, yes the China CD was actually a bootleg, so there is a stinker over there.

However, as it was already mentioned, not all Greek sellers sell bootlegs.

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I just got this Celtic Frost - To Mega Therion CD
I had to add it to Discogs because the seller had it listed as an original when it's far from it, initially I thought it was a repress but I found spelling mistakes and now an 'audio defect' I have grave doubts about its authenticity
At 04:48 of track 10 Necromantical Screams there is some hideous audio defect, I ripped the track and took a look at it in Audacity, sure enough there's a chunk of music missing...

Maldoror Musikverlag is misspelled Madoror Musikverlag in the booklet
Track 10 Necromantical Screams is misspelled Necromentical Screams on the rear cover and the disc but is spelled correctly in the booklet
The lyrics for each track are not sequential in the booklet

Soundcloud won't let me upload the file there grrr
http://filedump.org/files/4o7E1If1388234623.html

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 5:59 pm 
 

just bought Sadus - Swallowed In Black, reissue by Displeased records, got it for under 20 euro's, can anyone give me some more info on this cd? was it a smart buy or stupid buy? Seems that there aren't many people selling any versions of this online, and definitely not the original version.... hmmm... Should i consider myself happy with this re-issue even if it's out of print???? thx
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:57 pm 
 

As far as I know it's the same reissue as the Metal Mind version, only under a different banner. You're alright with it, although it might sound a bit loud. But then again most remastered reissues do.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 8:19 pm 
 

Machine_Dead wrote:
Should i consider myself happy with this re-issue even if it's out of print???? thx
WELCOME BROTHER! ha ha ha :beer: :-D
I get the same feeling when a reissue goes out of print and is pretty much as hard to get as the original
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Machine_Dead wrote:
just bought Sadus - Swallowed In Black, reissue by Displeased records, got it for under 20 euro's, can anyone give me some more info on this cd? was it a smart buy or stupid buy? Seems that there aren't many people selling any versions of this online, and definitely not the original version.... hmmm... Should i consider myself happy with this re-issue even if it's out of print???? thx


Considering you get the firstpress pretty often for less than 15 Euro I wouldn't say paying a higher price for a re-issue a smart buy.

http://www.ebay.de/itm/121204221289
http://www.ebay.de/itm/301021511911
http://www.ebay.de/itm/171196591647

And these are Ebay prices, in metal forums and local websites prices are even better.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 2:53 pm 
 

Dreadmeat,

This is a legit repress of To Mega Therion by Noise records, but made after 1994 since it has IFPI codes. I have owned two of these and both had that screeching noise in the last track. So it was a pressing defect. If you can find the earlier repress from around 1989, it does not has that error.





dreadmeat wrote:
I just got this Celtic Frost - To Mega Therion CD
I had to add it to Discogs because the seller had it listed as an original when it's far from it, initially I thought it was a repress but I found spelling mistakes and now an 'audio defect' I have grave doubts about its authenticity
At 04:48 of track 10 Necromantical Screams there is some hideous audio defect, I ripped the track and took a look at it in Audacity, sure enough there's a chunk of music missing...

Maldoror Musikverlag is misspelled Madoror Musikverlag in the booklet
Track 10 Necromantical Screams is misspelled Necromentical Screams on the rear cover and the disc but is spelled correctly in the booklet
The lyrics for each track are not sequential in the booklet

Soundcloud won't let me upload the file there grrr
http://filedump.org/files/4o7E1If1388234623.html

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 5:12 pm 
 

carnival_corpse wrote:
Dreadmeat,

This is a legit repress of To Mega Therion by Noise records, but made after 1994 since it has IFPI codes. I have owned two of these and both had that screeching noise in the last track. So it was a pressing defect. If you can find the earlier repress from around 1989, it does not has that error.

Yes, my copy also has that glitch. I would guess it's the same dreadmeat posted but will have to check that out.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 7:51 pm 
 

Ok cool I'm glad that it's legit but still annoyed that he sold me a CD that wasn't what I ordered [an original]
I'll update the notes of that release and I think the format should be misspress too.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 8:34 pm 
 

I have the 2006 reissue and it doesn't feature that (horrible) sound defect. Sorry for the late reply, been a bit busy lately. The sound on my reissue is also a lot louder, so I'd say that the one you got wasn't remastered.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2013 8:41 pm 
 

Yeah my other version is also remastered [with an extra track too] and has no defect and it is louder, doesn't sound as good :roll:
I'm not sure which version I have either actually, nobody has responded to my question

http://www.discogs.com/release/2147630

Matrix: DIDX-233731 1
Mastering SID Code: IFPI L328
Mould SID Code: IFPI 0391
Mould Stamp: MADE IN USA

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http://www.discogs.com/release/5236718
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:46 am 
 

Does anyone have any info on the cassette version of Perversor's "Demon Metal"?
I own it and want to add the release to discogs, but there's hardly any info to work with. No year, label, anything, and no mention of it anywhere on the internet.
It's cover is identical to the CD version except with a white band logo and writing instead of red.
I'll add it regardless but it's going to be a dud of an entry.
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What label is it on?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:52 am 
 

'Demon Metal' is on Hell's Headbangers. Absolutely no indication of a label on the cassette version, though. Maybe self-released?
I'd upload a photo but I don't have a camera handy. The j-card only has some artwork, tracklist and artist names.
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InCoffin Productions release a lot of tapes
http://www.discogs.com/label/171189-InCoffin-Productions
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:02 pm 
 

Man your Google skills suck :p

http://www.nwnprod.com/forum/viewtopic. ... c24#341818
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:08 pm 
 

Hmm, I do recall running into that thread but I didn't research any further. You got me!
So according to the MA label page "Follows the Hells Headbangers model very closely." Makes sense.
I'm going to guess year of release is 2011 then, judging by the thread.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2013 8:20 pm 
 

Ok cool, when you add it can you put a comment in here?
http://www.discogs.com/artist/1262828-Perversor
Maybe give that thread over at NWN! a bump if you need more info too :thumbsup:
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 10:46 am 
 

Are these DFA We Have Arrived reissues with original cover put out by Big Rig and Dark Realm legit?

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Dreadmeat,
Your To Mega Therion CD is a recent re-press from around 2008-2009. I interpolated this DIDX-233731 between some in my collection:

Enslaved - Vertebrae
DIDX-144950 1 IFPI L329 1OA IFPI 50D4
Pressed in 2008

Vader - Necropolis
DIDX-235180 1 IFPI L327 IFPI 7241
Pressed in 2009

Yours lie between those 2 , so it was pressed most closer to 2009 than 2008.


dreadmeat wrote:
Yeah my other version is also remastered [with an extra track too] and has no defect and it is louder, doesn't sound as good :roll:
I'm not sure which version I have either actually, nobody has responded to my question

http://www.discogs.com/release/2147630

Matrix: DIDX-233731 1
Mastering SID Code: IFPI L328
Mould SID Code: IFPI 0391
Mould Stamp: MADE IN USA

EDIT: added
http://www.discogs.com/release/5236718

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carnival_corpse wrote:
Dreadmeat,
Your To Mega Therion CD is a recent re-press from around 2008-2009. I interpolated this DIDX-233731 between some in my collection

I'm almost sure that I have my copy for longer than that, but maybe I'm wrong.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 5:43 pm 
 

Japc,

Can you confirm the matrix number on your copy?



japc wrote:
carnival_corpse wrote:
Dreadmeat,
Your To Mega Therion CD is a recent re-press from around 2008-2009. I interpolated this DIDX-233731 between some in my collection

I'm almost sure that I have my copy for longer than that, but maybe I'm wrong.

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Anyone know which version of the 1999 repress of "Left Hand Path" has the matrix code "EAR MOSH021CDL"?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 7:35 pm 
 

A quick Google search returned these two results:

http://www.discogs.com/Entombed-Left-Ha ... se/1091036
http://www.discogs.com/Entombed-Left-Ha ... se/3335663

Although I'm not quite following on what is it you're asking. ;)
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Just wondering if it is a 2008 repress or 1999 original, since no entry in discogs matches my matrix info. I promise I'm not just shitty at googling :-D
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Oh, I know what you mean. :D But the 2008 reissues are just represses of the 1999 reissues, so no biggie there. For instance, mine came in a 4CD box with Altars Of Madness/Feto/Stench Of Redemption, and is the 2008 with a "MOSH021CDL 01" matrix. What I mean is that I don't think there's any difference in the sound between the 1999 and 2008 reissues.
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carnival_corpse wrote:
Japc,

Can you confirm the matrix number on your copy?

It's the same as dreadmeat's.
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yeeeeeeap, we're all over this, nice work :thumbsup:
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Right, on another forum someone have questioned the originality of:

Demigod "Slumber of sullen eyes" cd

came with a different matrix code

cd-008 drawned tecno cd 02

cd-008 drawned tecno cd 01

Discogs report that one with cd 02 is a bootleg:

http://www.discogs.com/Demigod-Slumber- ... se/5155300

I have the 02 "edition" purchasing it back in the day 1992 when it came out and I don't believe it is a bootleg.

What do you think?
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The best way to determine that is to compare the matrix fonts between both versions. Can you post pictures of your version, may be we can compare it with a known original. There is a bootleg version of this CD, but maybe is based on the 02 version.



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Right, on another forum someone have questioned the originality of:

Demigod "Slumber of sullen eyes" cd

came with a different matrix code

cd-008 drawned tecno cd 02

cd-008 drawned tecno cd 01

Discogs report that one with cd 02 is a bootleg:

http://www.discogs.com/Demigod-Slumber- ... se/5155300

I have the 02 "edition" purchasing it back in the day 1992 when it came out and I don't believe it is a bootleg.

What do you think?

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Kind of a dumb question here, but did Hydra Head Records usually repress stuff in their catalogue? Just found the same Pelican album (their second) in two slightly different pressings and with different matrices. The layouts are virtually identic minus a few differences in colour.

Normal thing or awkward thing?
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carnival_corpse wrote:
The best way to determine that is to compare the matrix fonts between both versions. Can you post pictures of your version, may be we can compare it with a known original. There is a bootleg version of this CD, but maybe is based on the 02 version.



The Lions Den wrote:
Right, on another forum someone have questioned the originality of:

Demigod "Slumber of sullen eyes" cd

came with a different matrix code

cd-008 drawned tecno cd 02

cd-008 drawned tecno cd 01

Discogs report that one with cd 02 is a bootleg:

http://www.discogs.com/Demigod-Slumber- ... se/5155300

I have the 02 "edition" purchasing it back in the day 1992 when it came out and I don't believe it is a bootleg.

What do you think?


This has been discussed and examined before here on MA. With pictures. Don't remember which thread though. I believe the best answer was, that the 01 and 02 are both legit, but there was a bootleg made of the 02 pressing. The way to tell the difference is not the matrix, but based on the looks of the labelside print of the cd. You'll need a confirmed original release to be sure when comparing.

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Most of the time bootlegs with the same matrix number as the original can be identified by differences in font size and type.







The Lions Den wrote:
Right, on another forum someone have questioned the originality of:

Demigod "Slumber of sullen eyes" cd

came with a different matrix code

cd-008 drawned tecno cd 02

cd-008 drawned tecno cd 01

Discogs report that one with cd 02 is a bootleg:

http://www.discogs.com/Demigod-Slumber- ... se/5155300

I have the 02 "edition" purchasing it back in the day 1992 when it came out and I don't believe it is a bootleg.

What do you think?
[/quote]

This has been discussed and examined before here on MA. With pictures. Don't remember which thread though. I believe the best answer was, that the 01 and 02 are both legit, but there was a bootleg made of the 02 pressing. The way to tell the difference is not the matrix, but based on the looks of the labelside print of the cd. You'll need a confirmed original release to be sure when comparing.[/quote]

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androdion wrote:
Kind of a dumb question here, but did Hydra Head Records usually repress stuff in their catalogue? Just found the same Pelican album (their second) in two slightly different pressings and with different matrices. The layouts are virtually identical minus a few differences in colour.

Normal thing or awkward thing?
According to the page below it's been repressed on vinyl so it's not unlikely to be repressed on CD too
http://hydrahead.merchtable.com/music-vinyl/pelican-the-fire-in-our-throats-will-beckon-the-thaw-vinyl-2xlp-repress;2452
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:44 pm 
 

Could someone please enlighten me on what the A1 on a matrix means? Simple as that. :)

Can two copies of the same CD have the same matrix, except one has A1 and the other doesn't?
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It's not really part of the matrix, it's the "mother stamper" [or father stamper], A0 A1 and A2 are common
We just include it in the matrix field because it's easier and it appears in the same place but it looks etched and different.
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"It's a mother stamper"?! :lol:

Boy, you cracked me up with that one. It's like what, a code that has to do with the number of presses/masters? Something like that? And yeah, it's etched as opposed to printed like the matrix is.
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DeathfareDevil wrote:
I'm listening to PFD now and it doesn't sound remastered in the slightest, very low volume, which is sort of nice, to be honest. Anyway I'm just curious if anyone ever figured out the origin and legitimacy of these Noise reissues.

Uh .... as I'm typing this, at 4:30 in "Skeleton on Your Shoulder," the volume just went down noticeably. Did that happen on the original press? The next track sounds back to normal. Weird.

Got this one: http://www.discogs.com/Coroner-Punishme ... se/5206044

and there's not volume change on 05-4:30.
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I simply need a disc identified that was given to me by a friend with no cover or tray card. I dont have the time to go through every post in this thread so if this has been posted before please understand.

Its a black cd, with no title, picture or anything except the following words:
N.C. 027
STEMRA
ALL RIGHTS
RESERVED

The matrix code says:
IFPI LA11
And below that
81207 * NC 027 (P) *1

Much thanks if anyone can identify this cd for me or if its just a boot or burned blank disc....

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