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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:26 am 
 

80's band Siren, "Financial Suicide" on Aaarrg Records, bootleg left and original right.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:47 am 
 

First two releases from Pariah. Bootlegs left, original right. No idea what they were thinking when making the CD artwork, inlays may have been done with hi-resolution scans and no original discs at all as the "Blaze Of Obscurity" bootleg doesn't even have the same sound as the original.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:58 am 
 

Pyracanda's only album worth talking about, "Two Sides Of A Coin". Bootleg left, original right.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:06 pm 
 

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I buy this The Gathering/Mandylion CD, but I can't find this version, looks like US version, but below in the corner there is no "RED" white letters on the black square.

Also, matrix is 12405 6
IFPI 9F09

And there is a additional text say: crest natlca

I Google it and appears some other releases in discogs site like Duran Duran.

So, is a re-release, bootleg or is legit?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:39 pm 
 

Just a re-issue. The RED is likely blacked out because at the time of re-issue they probably weren't the distribution company anymore. I have multiple CM US releases with the RED blacked.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:45 am 
 

A lot of the Mausoleum Classix series were bootlegged a few years ago. There's information on Discogs about the differences between original and bootleg but it does little to help and simply causes confusion.

"When you hold up cd to the light and look at silver side you can see the band name through the disc, you can't on originals."

Not 100% accurate. You may be able to hold them up to daylight or a soft light and notice a difference, however, if you hold the bootleg or original up to a 60 watt light bulb or stronger you'll be able to see through both versions.

"Back of inlay card lists all of the titles in the series on most of these (not all) , This is not found on originals."

This doesn't really do anyone any favors as there are multiple original releases that list the other titles on the back of the card. There's also bootleg versions that don't list the other titles in the series. So this does nothing to clear anything up.


If you want to know which ones are originals and what indicates bootleg it can be found in the stacking ring. The originals have a wider and deeper stacking ring which was very common for discs pressed in the 80's and 90's. The photo below has 6 Mausoleum Classix discs, the top row are bootlegs and the bottom originals. Identifying these by the stacking ring is your best bet for understanding what version you have.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:53 pm 
 

thesilentenigma wrote:
Just a re-issue. The RED is likely blacked out because at the time of re-issue they probably weren't the distribution company anymore. I have multiple CM US releases with the RED blacked.


To bad, I know that before I buy it, I wanna drop in the trash, I don't like reissues.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 1:41 am 
 

Anacrusis "Suffering Hour"

Russian bootleg left, original right. Easy to tell them apart by the matrix, but there's other differences such as the original having glossy coated inlays and the bootleg not.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:04 pm 
 

As it turns out, the RaHoWa "Ueberfolk" album is a bootleg released without George Burdi's permission. Although Rage Records releases authentic material, this album has been denounced by Burdi in an interview. I've submitted a report for its removal.

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The “RAHOWA” release of Überfolk material is a bootleg, released without my permission, using demo tracks that had been circulating the internet. I no longer release material under the RAHOWA name. The actual Überfolk debut album will be a double LP and will be released in early 2018.
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Silenius1979
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 2:00 pm 
 

Can someone describe me the differences of original/bootleg of Intruder - A Higher Form Of Killing ????

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 6:31 pm 
 

I just got a used copy of Exultet's I soldati della croce very cheap on ebay.

To my surprise, the CD has a greenish underside, just as with old school CD-Rs. Neither MA nor discogs make a mention of the original release being a CD-R, but Exultet's second album from 2015 is a CD-R.

The matrx number on my copy of I soldati della croce is 2K063D0883680.

According to MA, the album was released in November 2010, but according to my tray card, and according to discogs, the album was released in 2011.

Bootleg or no? I'm inclined to believe its a bootleg just for the green underside alone, but since their other album is a CD-R, who knows.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 1:13 am 
 

Silenius1979 wrote:
Can someone describe me the differences of original/bootleg of Intruder - A Higher Form Of Killing ????


If you're referring to the Metal Blade Russian bootleg the matrix wont match this:

https://www.discogs.com/Intruder-A-High ... se/3460509
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:40 am 
 

according to discogs, russian boot has the same matrix
https://www.discogs.com/Intruder-A-High ... se/6308963

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:16 pm 
 

Silenius1979 wrote:
according to discogs, russian boot has the same matrix
https://www.discogs.com/Intruder-A-High ... se/6308963


But it will look different. If it doesn't match the physical traits of the one in the photo I linked, bootleg. The stacking ring will also be different on the Russian version.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2018 11:51 pm 
 

Here's what your bootleg matrix will look like:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Intruder-A-Hig ... SwZW5aIZLW
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:34 am 
 

Hi,

what is the difference between the 2 Mercilless Unbound Versions from No fashion Records NFR 007

one is the original and one the bootleg but both look exactly the same with same Matrix Number....

How much pages has the original booklet??

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:44 pm 
 

metalmaster32 wrote:
Hi,

what is the difference between the 2 Mercilless Unbound Versions from No fashion Records NFR 007

one is the original and one the bootleg but both look exactly the same with same Matrix Number....

How much pages has the original booklet??

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Your matrix will look different, as well as the top of the disc. Discogs has photos of both versions, very easy to tell by the top of the disc if you're not familiar with matrix's.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:56 pm 
 

I don't know if this is a legit copy or a bootleg, but this is Hexenhaus - The Edge of Eternity. I would like confirmation if my copy is a legit copy or a bootleg.

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It looks legit, but it's a pretty rare album.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:37 pm 
 

It's a bootleg. Give me a second and I'll upload what the real one looks like.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:41 am 
 

They look extremely close. But man, is it ever depressing to see the pressing I got was a bootleg. :(
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 1:48 am 
 

Yeah, by Russian standards they did do a pretty good job.
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