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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 1:56 pm 
 



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 2:15 pm 
 

Pretty decent stuff. I've not really been floored by anything out of the Swedish melodic death metal scene in a while, but this is still pretty decent stuff, and makes me want to hear the whole thing.

Edit: It occured to me that most of these bands are actually from Finland and not from Sweden after I posted. My bad! Still, I'm interested in hearing the whole thing.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 2:20 pm 
 

I was ready to write this off as another Stanne project, but quite enjoyed the song. Will give the full album a spin when released for sure.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 2:24 pm 
 

Very nice indeed. If Stanne is doing clean vocals then I'm always gonna check it out.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 4:44 pm 
 

Yeah, I really enjoyed that. Will definitely check out whatever else they do!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 7:48 pm 
 

Sounds like alternative/gothic rock to me.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 9:44 pm 
 

lordcatfish wrote:
Very nice indeed. If Stanne is doing clean vocals then I'm always gonna check it out.


This. I’ve been dying for a project with Stanne doing clean vocals only. He doesn’t sound much like Dave Gahan here, as his cleans usually do, but they sound great, nonetheless.
Song is a bit safe but definitely more enjoyable than the similar project Nick Holmes released last year.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:32 pm 
 

I find supergroups to be usually very much lacking in personality or character, which is pretty essential if you're going to play this kind of rock. I mean, at least Katatonia (not a supergroup but same genre) have their polyrhythm thing going to distinguish them, what does this have?

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 1:23 am 
 

This brought me more joy than the last three Dark Tranquillity albums combined, if only because I can still recall the hook right after the song ended. Mikael's singing is great, as always.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 4:37 am 
 

From the list of band members I'm not super interested, but that band name is really really bad.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 5:23 am 
 

No wonder DT sucks big time, since Stanne is scattered on so many other projects and bands...
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 8:22 am 
 

Disembodied wrote:
I find supergroups to be usually very much lacking in personality or character, which is pretty essential if you're going to play this kind of rock. I mean, at least Katatonia (not a supergroup but same genre) have their polyrhythm thing going to distinguish them, what does this have?


Katatonia isn't really a good comparison because they never played straight up gothic rock, Discouraged Ones was the closest they ever came to a straight up gothic metal album but their sound since the 2000s has mostly been some combination of alternative metal and progressive metal/rock with some diversions into other styles here and there. This single has way more in common with mid to late 90s Paradise Lost than anything Katatonia related.


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No wonder DT sucks big time, since Stanne is scattered on so many other projects and bands...


Any issues you have with DT have nothing to do with Stanne, he hasn't had songwriting credits on any album since Projector. Every album since then was written by some combination of Brandstrom/Jivarp/Henriksson/Sundin and apart from Moment where Reinholdz started contributing the last three albums were almost 100% written by Brandstrom and Jivarp. Stanne is only really involved with writing the lyrics.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 8:49 am 
 

Kalaratri wrote:
Any issues you have with DT have nothing to do with Stanne, he hasn't had songwriting credits on any album since Projector. Every album since then was written by some combination of Brandstrom/Jivarp/Henriksson/Sundin and apart from Moment where Reinholdz started contributing the last three albums were almost 100% written by Brandstrom and Jivarp. Stanne is only really involved with writing the lyrics.


ok, that's partly derailing the thread, but Stanne is the oldest member in DT and, although I havent fact-checked it, I think he owns 100% of the band's name/equity. he may not write the songs (I havent fact-checked that, either, I am taking what you wrote as honest), but he sure has the option to reject songs he doesnt like, or ask them to alter them.

I also think that, in the trad metal world, lyric-writing often includes composing the vocal melody as well, which is a very big part of the actual songwriting...
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 9:02 am 
 

aloof wrote:
Kalaratri wrote:
Any issues you have with DT have nothing to do with Stanne, he hasn't had songwriting credits on any album since Projector. Every album since then was written by some combination of Brandstrom/Jivarp/Henriksson/Sundin and apart from Moment where Reinholdz started contributing the last three albums were almost 100% written by Brandstrom and Jivarp. Stanne is only really involved with writing the lyrics.


ok, that's partly derailing the thread, but Stanne is the oldest member in DT and, although I havent fact-checked it, I think he owns 100% of the band's name/equity. he may not write the songs (I havent fact-checked that, either, I am taking what you wrote as honest), but he sure has the option to reject songs he doesnt like, or ask them to alter them.

I also think that, in the trad metal world, lyric-writing often includes composing the vocal melody as well, which is a very big part of the actual songwriting...


DT has never been a dictatorship and Stanne doesn't really take the role of band leader. The band operates on consensus, everyone has their say and they only go ahead with music that everyone agrees on. This is why Daniel Antonsson left after We Are the Void, he was used to having much more control over the songwriting and that wasn't how it worked in Dark Tranquillity. So Stanne owning the name doesn't really mean anything because he has never dictated how the band should sound, he's one voice among the rest of the members. I also think that our opinion of DT's direction in recent years and what the actual band members think about it are very different. Stanne is likely pretty positive about the music the band is making based on interviews so even if the other guys are writing stuff people on this board don't like he has a very different perspective on it. He may have suggested changes to the songs but that doesn't mean his ideas are things we would like.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 10:37 am 
 

that sounds more like a fan's idealistic view of how (professional) bands work, than an actuality. you don't end up the longest serving member in a band you're barely a co-founder of by being all chummy and democratic and laisser faire. just ask Anders Friden or Timo Kotipelto.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 10:55 am 
 

aloof wrote:
that sounds more like a fan's idealistic view of how (professional) bands work, than an actuality. you don't end up the longest serving member in a band you're barely a co-founder of by being all chummy and democratic and laisser faire. just ask Anders Friden or Timo Kotipelto.


Not everyone is a politician when it comes to band dynamics. A bunch of the original members left for various reasons that have nothing to do with feeling like they didn't have enough say. Henriksson left because he was burnt out on playing music and he still works as the band's manager, for example. Sundin left because he was tired of touring and wanted to spend more time with his kids, and he still works as the band's cover artist. The only split that might have been acrimonious was Jivarp, and he's apparently reconciled with the remaining band members since they've promoted his new musical projects since then.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 11:09 am 
 

Surprise, it wasn't a mash-up of those bands where the members are / have been.

The Sisters of Mercy, Paradise Lost ('Host' and other more alt-things by them) and even pop influence (Lapko!): Not a metal band judged by this debut single. But let's wait for the rest of the album... I presume the guys wanted to try something else...

Anyway, it's rather catchy and okay song.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 11:43 am 
 

there should be a band queue for the forum as well. maybe next years april fool.
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funeralravens wrote:
Sounds like alternative/gothic rock to me.

Yep. They figured out the impossible: how to make the Katatonia sound even more boring. I will never understand why metalheads love boring radio rock when underground metal artists play it, but never in any other scenario.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 9:20 pm 
 

I'm starting to think maybe I'm just an easily impressed oaf.

I love Stanne's clean vocals, and they should be recognized as being one of the better parts of modern DT.

This song is pretty solid to me.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 1:36 am 
 

Meh, it's ok but I'm pretty sure I won't come back to this.

Was hoping for some "Projector" throwbacks but not even close.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 4:21 am 
 

The melodies remind me a lot of current-era Soilwork, especially the chorus - it's just stripped of any metal elements and the vocals are a bit deeper. But otherwise I'm hearing Speed singing this.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:01 am 
 

Dullahan wrote:
This brought me more joy than the last three Dark Tranquillity albums combined, if only because I can still recall the hook right after the song ended. Mikael's singing is great, as always.


+1.

It's a very catchy song. Looking forward to hearing the whole album.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 5:49 am 
 

narsilianshard wrote:
Yep. They figured out the impossible: how to make the Katatonia sound even more boring. I will never understand why metalheads love boring radio rock when underground metal artists play it, but never in any other scenario.

Yeah, it's not even real gothic rock. It sounds like those German "gothic rock"/"darkwave" bands that are closer to NDH, EBM and so on. Not my thing, to be honest.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 12:23 pm 
 

The reason this is likeable is because of Stanne's clean vocals.

Musically it's fine. The song is catchy, but nothing new. I'll give the album a spin because of Stanne. Hopefully the album has some moments that are bit more dark/gripping than this though.

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