why? oh, I see now. Well, judging by the rest of your reviews, you don't seem to understand anything about legitimate black metal, so I'm not surprised.

Kampfar - Mare (the song)

I swear, if the vocals had been the growling voice of Rob Darken, this could easily have been a Graveland song, only a lot better. Immortal Pride is one of my favourites, but after that I think Graveland got a bit stale to say the least. A song like Mare is what Graveland could be doing.

Svartkonst - Devils Blood
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCz5GvHvmPk

this song just keeps getting better with each listen, really cool debut album

orthodoxy.

let's see how much you know.
define the meaning of this term with respect to black metal, and then explain its origin.

Zeal & Ardor - Don't you Dare

Honestly I didn't expect much. Black metal mixed with sounds from African American spirituals? It was bound to go horribly wrong. but it didn't! Great soulful vocal delivery and the two genres blend well. No real suprise considering the dark and serious history behind spirituals. The black metal just makes it pack an extra punch. I heard their first album was pretty meh, but this second album is definitely worth listening to. Just try to look beyond the meme and see what you think of it.

"Orthodoxy" is really another word for "kvlt" or "trve" and it's "bvllshit".

Please, don't try to play me for a fool. At the end of the day every time you're talking to me you're on a computer like every other metalhead on this forum and it doesn't matter how big your arms are or how well you can squash a douchebag's face. If you're so deep into the "kvlt" and know the ins and outs of being so incredibly evil and so well-versed in the sound, then how is this the place to complain about someone who didn't like an album that you did like when you could give a far better-versed summation of the same music? I gave my opinion and made a joke, that was it. I said what I said, it was a bit douchey, but at least I put my thoughts down and had the balls to put them out there to your "elite" derision.

while to be fair, I myself kind of used a meaningless and self-chosen descriptor (legitimate) to mock your high rankings of commercial tourist/hipster pablum like Wolves in the Throne Room and overly synth heavy Hecate Enthroned over things like Runespell/etc.....


from you, the (clipped for brevity) that was a really long winded way of saying "no".
I will assume, based on your winding deflection that you aren't aware that the answer is in fact simple.
https://www.discogs.com/Countess-The-Re ... ase/412926

The fact you are posting on M-A (of all places) and don't know the legacy of Hartmuth , Orlok, etc around this terminology is really kind of sad, but--- it is what it is.
I know BlackGoat wasn't active much here after around 2005 like he was at the start... but still...

Anyways, resume your reviews, you're free to like what you like, and that's fine. It's just pretty sad you write in so much detail but don't seem to know what it is you are writing about.




NP-
Countess- "The Shining Swords of Hate"
the best countess album, but that's like picking a diamond out of a box of precious gems.

If I gave you a single answer you would have shut me down for not getting the 'point'. Giving you this "winding deflection" lost you the leg on which you could have stood, so instead you chose to go after a review I wrote back in 2010 and told me about even more underground bands in an already underground genre. Thanks for the recommendations.

Thank you also for looking so deeply into my review catalog. I hope I didn't disappoint with what I wrote back then and I'm glad folks, even when looking for flak for an online argument, are actually reading what I write here and there.

I've listened to a lot of underground stuff, sometimes it's fun, sometimes bands aren't to my liking. In spite of my "deflection" you gave me a band that does honor a definition I described while defying convention in its own way, showing the irreverence for which black metal is so well known.

Countess reminds me of a time when I was hanging out with some friends in a van. We put all the seats down in this soccer mom van, it was ten below zero Farenheit outside with snow blowing, (the kind of weather that Immortal would nakedly rape a village in) and had a great time setting up a hookah and passing around a bong. It was a ton of fun and my friend who owned the van decided to put on some tunes. He's one who is into Nine Inch Nails and Diary of Dreams, really synth-laced 'dark-pop'. I introduced him to Agalloch, Ulver, and he even got down with a few Burzum and Mayhem tracks. Well, he put on a song by a band he found and I was stoned off my balls describing the music. Somehow in my baked and drunken state I was able to actually say the name of the song by describing what I heard. It was fun, a bit validating, but really just a funny moment showing how a band, no matter what it plays, can get its point across through its music alone.

Maybe I learned a bit in the eight years following that Wolves in the Throne Room review, maybe I still enjoy the Hecate Enthroned albums I wrote about back in 2009, maybe I have different views now nearly a decade later. Keep reading my reviews and you'll find out because even an unhappy reader is still a reader. Sorry to disappoint.

Expect more disappointments in the near future!



Also, keeping the real purpose of this area, Satanic Blood by Von is sick and easily considered a stripped down "orthodox", "mandatory", "kvlt" and "evil" song. (Man, it's just goofy saying a SONG is orthodox or mandatory, they don't even give you unleavened bread)

the point went over your head, I see. The term was coined by the label/band in question, used on promo/flyer material over 25 years ago, and was printed on the booklet of the release I linked you to almost 25 years ago. That is its first known usage. The term as used had(has) a specific meaning, origin, and implication. All other use is bastardized and incorrect. The fact you are oblivious to this rather well known information simply confirms my point.

Anyways, have a good day; hope you manage to learn more about things in the future.

One last Now Playing for now.

Once I was hanging out with a roommate. We ran out of beer so we pounded a box of Franzia and I, in my drunken state, threw on Death's 'Leprosy' album.

When the words in "Open Casket" came, "touch, the flesh it is so cold", my mainstream heavily-acned roomie, who liked me only because I knew Blink 182s discography from before I got into metal, was laying in his bed, arm over his face, trying not to die from a box of wine nightcap and too many bong rips while I beat him down with obnoxious and loud death metal in a very smelly room, (I'm so glad the RAs didn't care because the entire hallway was a bunch of potheads) decided to pipe up when the beatdown was going on.

He asked me, defeated by the hammering snare and drunken by milking too many rips and solo cups of vino, "is he gonna fuck it?"

I was so happy in that moment, disturbing a well-mannered dude to the point that his own sickness came out while I full-on belly laughed until I almost puked.

Every time I hear that song, I still hear, "is he gonna fuck it" when that part comes up.

So here goes.

Death, "Open Casket": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxI1yz1gx-E