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Empyreal
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:48 pm 
 

marktheviktor wrote:
Misainzig wrote:
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Why are there certain users listed with their results list? Is it because their opinions matter most? Just curious about how that system works.

In the OP, it says there were 46 votes cast. Under that, I see 46 user lists. You do the math.


Yeah, but was it like an electoral system where certain users represent a body of voters or was it an open system?

Um, it's just an open system for anyone who has been a member before the game started...what makes you think otherwise?
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_Aargh
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:48 pm 
 

marktheviktor wrote:
Yeah, but was it like an electoral system where certain users represent a body of voters or was it an open system?

It was an open system.

edit: Late.

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marktheviktor
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:51 pm 
 

Empyreal wrote:
marktheviktor wrote:
Misainzig wrote:
marktheviktor wrote:
Why are there certain users listed with their results list? Is it because their opinions matter most? Just curious about how that system works.

In the OP, it says there were 46 votes cast. Under that, I see 46 user lists. You do the math.


Yeah, but was it like an electoral system where certain users represent a body of voters or was it an open system?

Um, it's just an open system for anyone who has been a member before the game started...what makes you think otherwise?


I've just seen too many Oliver Stone films I guess.

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UtUmNo1
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 9:00 pm 
 

The list had been worked out in a smokey room a long time before the survey was conducted...

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Star-Gazer
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 12:01 am 
 

UtUmNo1 wrote:
The list had been worked out in a smokey room a long time before the survey was conducted...
wow, something that someone said that actually had me LMAO!

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ENKC
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 12:38 am 
 

I really would have liked to see Queensryce much higher. I guess they just don't immediately spring to peoples' minds as a heavy metal band per se. And what, only one vote for Warlock or Doro in total? Why no Doro love? Plus I would have expected to see more Megadeth. They're as much a heavy band as a thrash one, and arguably were even in the eighties.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 3:21 pm 
 

Iron Maiden is well represented. Manilla Road was not. I would have voted for both.

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noinim
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 12:41 am 
 

ENKC wrote:
And what, only one vote for Warlock or Doro in total? Why no Doro love? Plus I would have expected to see more Megadeth. They're as much a heavy band as a thrash one, and arguably were even in the eighties.


Actually there were two votes for Warlock... mine was for Burning The Witches and Catachthonia voted for Triumph and Agony. As to be expected, female-fronted bands were severely overlooked, even with some really powerful classics that demand to be remembered. Aside from Warlock, my list included Acid, Zed Yago, Hellion, Messiah Force, and Chastain --- these are truly some of the finest traditional heavy metal bands out there! Check it.

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AleXTreme
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 1:05 am 
 

where is my list????

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~Guest 98976
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 1:46 am 
 

Painkiller is a fucking piece of shit. What the fuck, people?

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noinim
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 3:38 am 
 

FasterDisaster wrote:
Painkiller is a fucking piece of shit. What the fuck, people?


EEEEEEEEEGATZ!

Overrated perhaps, but "a fucking piece of shit"? C'MON! All those ferocious beats and varied melodies, Rob's wicked lyrics/sick vocals, and those mind-bending, never-ending solos... and you think the album sounds shit? Simply impossible.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 5:07 am 
 

Painkiller is the greatest thing in the history of human existence, and the prehistory of the universe prior to that. If Chuck Norris was an album, it would be Painkiller.
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trueMunchies
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 7:07 am 
 

Painkiller rocks overtime. I could only pick 2 Priest albums though.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 9:24 am 
 

FasterDisaster wrote:
Painkiller is a fucking piece of shit. What the fuck, people?

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Empyreal
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 9:27 am 
 

noinim wrote:
FasterDisaster wrote:
Painkiller is a fucking piece of shit. What the fuck, people?


EEEEEEEEEGATZ!

Overrated perhaps, but "a fucking piece of shit"? C'MON! All those ferocious beats and varied melodies, Rob's wicked lyrics/sick vocals, and those mind-bending, never-ending solos... and you think the album sounds shit? Simply impossible.


I like Painkiller, but it's clearly not for everyone. Why is it impossible? It's not even the best Judas Priest album.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 10:28 pm 
 

noinim wrote:
FasterDisaster wrote:
Painkiller is a fucking piece of shit. What the fuck, people?


EEEEEEEEEGATZ!

Overrated perhaps, but "a fucking piece of shit"? C'MON! All those ferocious beats and varied melodies, Rob's wicked lyrics/sick vocals, and those mind-bending, never-ending solos... and you think the album sounds shit? Simply impossible.


As far as I'm concerned, Painkiller was the next step in the Judas Priest catalogue for a faux-attempt genre change, for about the third time in the 80s (even though it was released in 1990). NO THANKS.

Painkiller is supposed to be some amazing hybrid of power/thrash/speed metal, but it fails at all of those, except for the killer double bass kick in the beginning of the title track. If I want speed metal, I'll listen to Thundersteel. If I want power metal, I'm going to dig into some Port Royal. If I want thrash metal, Violent Restitution is where I'm headed. Painkiller? Not on my watch.

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BaronBlitzkrieg
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 7:55 am 
 

FasterDisaster wrote:
As far as I'm concerned, Painkiller was the next step in the Judas Priest catalogue for a faux-attempt genre change, for about the third time in the 80s (even though it was released in 1990). NO THANKS.


Painkiller is a return to Priest's roots, it sounds more like Stained Class with a modern production than any of their 80s material.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 11:15 am 
 

BaronBlitzkrieg wrote:
FasterDisaster wrote:
As far as I'm concerned, Painkiller was the next step in the Judas Priest catalogue for a faux-attempt genre change, for about the third time in the 80s (even though it was released in 1990). NO THANKS.


Painkiller is a return to Priest's roots, it sounds more like Stained Class with a modern production than any of their 80s material.


No it doesn't.

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Jarnroth
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 1:03 pm 
 

It isn't a "supposedly" amazing hybrid either.
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MECHAZAWA
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 9:37 pm 
 

No metalhead can resist the charms of Painkiller, you guys are dissing it just because of the huge fan base it have and you guys find it uncool to be part of a "flock of cows".

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Jarnroth
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:42 pm 
 

Is that so? I haven't felt it to be like that arround here during my time.
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ogmetal
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 12:18 am 
 

Let's not argue about who has shitty taste. We all know if FasterDisaster says it sucks, it must be true.

If you guys can't be civil and agree to accept whatever FasterDisaster says as truth, this thread will be locked.

Play nice.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 2:39 am 
 

ogmetal wrote:
Let's not argue about who has shitty taste. We all know if FasterDisaster says it sucks, it must be true.

If you guys can't be civil and agree to accept whatever FasterDisaster says as truth, this thread will be locked.

Play nice.



damn..... I always thought it was good....
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Avaddons_blood
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 2:51 am 
 

Lyrici17 wrote:
ogmetal wrote:
Let's not argue about who has shitty taste. We all know if FasterDisaster says it sucks, it must be true.

If you guys can't be civil and agree to accept whatever FasterDisaster says as truth, this thread will be locked.

Play nice.



damn..... I always thought it was good....


Apparently you thought fucking wrong. Good music isn't good anymore.

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invoked
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 3:05 am 
 

Shit album or not, Painkiller IS massively overrated and is still not nearly as good as the 70's material (debut aside). Personally, if I wanted Stained Class at twice the speed and with more ridiculous vocals, I'd listen to Slayer :)
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Avaddons_blood
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 3:22 am 
 

FasterDisaster wrote:
If I want speed metal, I'll listen to Thundersteel. If I want power metal, I'm going to dig into some Port Royal. If I want thrash metal, Violent Restitution is where I'm headed. Painkiller? Not on my watch.


Yes, because it's not possible to listen to more than one album per genre.

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Eintagsfliege
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 10:08 am 
 

Who got to vote in this poll? Sorry if that question was already answered.

EDIT: I think I ought to clarify this. I could see who voted, but I was more interested in why specifically those individuals got to vote.

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KingVold
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 5:33 pm 
 

UtUmNo1 wrote:
The list had been worked out in a smokey room a long time before the survey was conducted...


Sigged.
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I refuse to listen to a genre using an onamatapoeiac descriptor.

Motion to change "Death Metal" to "EEURRRGHHH"

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KingVold
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 5:35 pm 
 

AleXTreme wrote:
where is my list????


Same thing here. I thoght I ahd submitted one...

Oh well. Most of the albums I asked for got ranked. Im not even the only one who put "Lucifuge" on it!
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ENKC wrote:
I honestly have no idea what the subject of this thread is.


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KingVold
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 5:37 pm 
 

Empyreal wrote:
noinim wrote:
FasterDisaster wrote:
Painkiller is a ing piece of . What the , people?


EEEEEEEEEGATZ!

Ove perhaps, but "a ing piece of "? C'MON! All those ferocious beats and varied melodies, Rob's wicked lyrics/sick vocals, and those mind-bending, never-ending solos... and you think the album sounds ? Simply impossible.


I like Painkiller, but it's clearly not for everyone. Why is it impossible? It's not even the best Judas Priest album.


Im suprised it got so high. I had Painkiller and I never even got through the whole album. :grin:
Oh well. ill give it another spin. Still, Vol. 4 ahould have got #1
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Krav
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 6:05 pm 
 

Eintagsfliege wrote:
Who got to vote in this poll? Sorry if that question was already answered.

EDIT: I think I ought to clarify this. I could see who voted, but I was more interested in why specifically those individuals got to vote.


Maybe you should read the thread? I'll give you a hint. Look at the first post on page 3.

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Eintagsfliege
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 6:10 pm 
 

Okay, I got it, sorry for bumping this thread.

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