DEATHSPELL OMEGA and S.V.E.S.T. offer two glances right into the primeval fracture, the suppurating wound at the heart of everything, the fissure undermining up to the least attempt at harmony. Summa Divisio, the first of all divisions, the mother of all scissions and the annunciation of woe and affliction to come.

The work of both bands can be understood as a variation on a same theme, independent yet complementary.

Released as a noble gatefold LP featuring both bands and as two digipak mini-cds, each featuring one band, with identical artwork and layout.

Who cares? Are we going to start a thread for every new album that is released? Besides DSO have already released two albums this year, so it's not like it's even that surprising.

In fact, I think the info is valuable, I don´t visit other sites than MA, and this kind of threads are important not to discussion, but to keep in touch.

Also, I'm curious to hear why those who don't like DSO or their later material hold their opinions, with a few caveats. First, I don't think that the theistic Satanism and band ideology argument is relevant and would prefer to discuss only the band's music. Second, I haven't heard Fas, so I'd prefer to hear analyses of other releases. I don't want to cause an argument and I promise not to engage in rampant fanboyism, I just want to hear articulate criticisms of Deathspell.

Because Si Monumentum pretty much sounds like Dark Funeral with 20 times the number of notes but doesn't add up to anything more interesting than Dark Funeral with 20 times the number of notes.

I'm a fan of Deathspell and S.V.E.S.T. seems to be good if the reviews on their page are to be believed so I look forward to this release with great interest.

Also, I'm curious to hear why those who don't like DSO or their later material hold their opinions, with a few caveats. First, I don't think that the theistic Satanism and band ideology argument is relevant and would prefer to discuss only the band's music. Second, I haven't heard Fas, so I'd prefer to hear analyses of other releases. I don't want to cause an argument and I promise not to engage in rampant fanboyism, I just want to hear articulate criticisms of Deathspell.

DSO has the same problems Satyricon had before they started making blacknroll. They've always been a band riding on the coattails of popular, better bands and by dint of their outspoken pseudo-mystique placed themselves in the forefront of a black metal subgenre they had no hand in creating and to which they brought no innovations to speak of. Turning from competent if unspectacular Darkthrone worship to the copy-pasting of Swedish based "orthodox black metal", they finally wowed the magazines and fanboys by their radical new direction, ie. jazzy, chaotic death metal that still doesn't bring anything new to the table.

Now, none of this would have been a problem if their songwriting stayed on the competent-if-pedestrian level of their early years, but starting from Si Monumentum their ambitions largely outgrew their compositional skills, resulting in a largely unconnected string of half-baked ideas and semi-technical riffs that just sat there pretending complexity while missing the basic fundamentals of song-writing. Quite frankly, their songs are a mess, with Fas being the most egregious example yet. This record is only complex to people who get off on Meshugga. They threw a bunch of tremolo and power chord passages into a blender, copy-pasted a bunch of standard slow discordant segments straight out of the burzum-book-riffs in between and padded it out with samples and ambient noodling. People then called it a genius example of "black metal growing up".

Septic Tomb have you thought of reviewing some of their stuff?

Here's a tip. Don't post a thread containing only a news paste from another source. This isn't blabbermouth.

Post some actual content and opinions.

I'm a fan of Deathspell and S.V.E.S.T. seems to be good if the reviews on their page are to be believed so I look forward to this release with great interest.

Also, I'm curious to hear why those who don't like DSO or their later material hold their opinions, with a few caveats. First, I don't think that the theistic Satanism and band ideology argument is relevant and would prefer to discuss only the band's music. Second, I haven't heard Fas, so I'd prefer to hear analyses of other releases. I don't want to cause an argument and I promise not to engage in rampant fanboyism, I just want to hear articulate criticisms of Deathspell.

Overall, it's all about personal music taste, in my case, especially within terms of black metal playing styles.

Hopefully, this is a valid reason, but that's up to whoever interprets this explanation.

I would say that you've given some very valid reasons. I love their old material as well, but I agree that it's quite different. I would say that I just happen to enjoy both traditional and 'experimental' (or orthodox, or whatever) styles of black metal.

I'm not new to message boards. I'm not new to metal archives. I don't read blabbermouth.

Thanks.

Look, its not hard, people have started threads about upcoming albums that fit into the forum's guidelines just fine. Heres a fucking obvious example as to what you could have included along with the article:

"Has anyone else heard about this? I for one am quite pleased to see that they are finally putting out some new material, despite it only being one song. Does anyone have any more info on this release by any chance? Share your thoughts!"

Really, is that so hard?

And hey will you look at that, with the exception of three posters, everyone remained on topic! Guess who the off-topic posters are? Seriously rexxz and Nordic_Warhammer, I normally respect you guys, but you really shot yourself in the foot after putting it in your mouth first. Be a bit less overzealous, alright?

I have seen a few "comical" things in my time. This is not one of them. I implore my colleagues and other posters to heed my words above, and act accordingly in the future. I also strongly advise that one particular party dispenses with the snotty tone; being correct does not (and never has) also necessarily entailed being blameless. Most conflicts of this nature result from a failure on my part in clearly communicating procedure to other janitors, and not from these agents themselves. You would do well to remember this before copping an attitude with them.

Edit: And because it's liable to come up (yet again), no, I will not delete Kruel's review for Circumspice, at very least not until something better of similar overall appraisal emerges.

Edit: And because it's liable to come up (yet again), no, I will not delete Kruel's review for Circumspice, at very least not until something better of similar overall appraisal emerges.

That review really is grating. Hopefully someone will take you up on this.