Christ, does BtA even play in a set meter? I bought Nano Nucleonic Cyborg Summoning at the used CD store a while ago, and my brain almost entirely melted upon listening. Complete and utter chaos at almost every moment.

Isn't it wonderful!!!!!!

Already mentioned them, guys.

(By the way, the members are really cool guys, even despite Colin's absurd hair.)

No, they're terrible. They don't understand the concept of playing in time.

No, they most certainly do understand the concept of playing in time. You think that if it was all improvised they'd hit each note perfectly in unison they way that they do?

Their timing is very complex.

Took the words straight out of my mouth. They pretty well live as well!

It was hyperbole, but their time signatures come from rolling a d20. I think they're like Dream Theater, no idea how to use odd meters.

Have you ever seen their sheet music? It's very elaborate and not arbitrary at all like you claim.

How about we leave it at I think their music is a load of horseshit? Instead of trying to convince me there's something I don't get.

How about we don't and I can continue to discuss whatever I'd like regardless of anyone else thinking that I'm trying to "convince them" of anything.

Spiral Architect wins for most Technical album of all time.

Vehementer Nos, a French black metal band employs some odd time signatures. Probably one of the few black metal bands that do, though I'm not sure of many others that do.

It sure does, but that's hardly an uncommon time. You'll hear it a lot inn some "second-wave" black metal bands like early Dimmu Borgir, Satyricon, etc, too.

Both Virus (Nor) albums have some pretty wild timings, especally the latest, "The Black Flux"

Edit: Mekong Delta's "The Music of Erich Zann", for sure. I think I finally have started to "get" this album. I was sitting with a bunch of friends and we were quite high .. I couldn't even converse because I suddenly became so fascinated with trying to follow what the band was playing and became delighted with its sheer intricacy for the first time. QUirkiest thrash band of all time? Probably!

That reminds me one of the "rules" of progmetal (maybe already known by you guys... remember I'm a newbie here)

Accuse anyone who disagrees with you of lacking musical intelligence and not being a true prog fan. :grin:

To be honest, I don't even recognize time signatures, so saying that a band is technical means less than nothing to me.

Deicide play mostly in 5/4 and sometimes in 6/4, if you'd call that weird, but it's not too weird...

"mostly"?

It's not very weird either.

Well, he said that he thinks it's not very weird. I'm just wondering what the "mostly" part is all about. What, do they have one or two songs in those timings?

I confess that I have this problem too...



I understand this.



This totally went over my head.



So is Pink Floyd's 'Money' - but I only know that from watching the 'Making of' documentary...

I think Planet X may be on due to the side band rule since Derek was in Dream Theater.

Yeah, that would make sense and was my first thought. They're labelled as metal, though- "Progressive Metal, Shred, fusion". Which I wouldn't agree with. Still haven't heard the newest one though.