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FLIPPITYFLOOP
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 2:46 pm 
 

From Meyhnach's official Facebook:

https://www.facebook.com/meyhnach/posts ... NmGUuXuKDl

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From Hell,
It all began over 30 years ago... The elder ones remember, and some of you have been following my work since my early days with Mutiilation. I'm addressing you in particular, you who have supported me throughout my work, but also through my other musical projects, which are merely satellites of a much darker entity. This entity, buried but not dead, whose return you hoped for but no longer expected, has just given birth to its seventh son. I am honored to announce the return of the black metal cult. It is alive, keep an eye opened.
Meyhnach Von Mutiil


So a 7th Mutiilation album will indeed happen. This is huge.

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democracyiscringe
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 5:25 pm 
 

Is it too optimistic to hope this one has real drums?

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Forever Underground
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 8:10 pm 
 

I don't want to sound like the typical gatekeeper kvlter than thou, but nothing Mütiilation has done post 1996 is very worthwhile, maybe Majestas Leprosus but it's still far from their early stuff. It's good that Meyhna'ch still has the will and ideas for the project but this news doesn't give me any kind of excitement even though I consider myself a fan of this band.
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DungeonShade
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 21, 2024 11:34 pm 
 

Very intriguing! Looking forward to this.

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lennonlikesmetal
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:03 am 
 

Forever Underground wrote:
I don't want to sound like the typical gatekeeper kvlter than thou, but nothing Mütiilation has done post 1996 is very worthwhile, maybe Majestas Leprosus but it's still far from their early stuff. It's good that Meyhna'ch still has the will and ideas for the project but this news doesn't give me any kind of excitement even though I consider myself a fan of this band.


Sorrow Galaxies was cool.

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cultofkraken
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 12:52 pm 
 

Here it is, Black Metal Cult:

https://www.osmoseproductions.com/item/2/94903-110402-1231-1-0/127664840/mutiilation-black-metal-cult.-white-vinyl.html
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 3:55 pm 
 

One of the most overrated kvlt bands EVER - I thought they sucked :oh shit:
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FLIPPITYFLOOP
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:12 pm 
 

Metal_On_The_Ascendant wrote:
One of the most overrated kvlt bands EVER - I thought they sucked :oh shit:


I'm not a huge fan of the band either but thought this was pretty huge news and was surprised no one was talking about it here yet. Vampires has some decent riffs and Sorrow Galaxies was overall good.

Black Metal Cult.... if you're going to use the most stereotypical name for a black metal album ever to exist, it better be good. Damn that's corny.

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cultofkraken
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:26 pm 
 

Metal_On_The_Ascendant wrote:
One of the most overrated kvlt bands EVER - I thought they sucked :oh shit:


Well thanks for your opinion. I’m sure someone somewhere appreciates it.
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Slater922
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 4:57 pm 
 

Well this is interesting. Not a fan of that Black Metal Cult name, but if Meyhnach still has it, then I wouldn’t mind it.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 7:23 pm 
 

Metal_On_The_Ascendant wrote:
One of the most overrated kvlt bands EVER - I thought they sucked :oh shit:



Yeah, the older I get, the less their stuff sounds good to me. Vampires of Black Imperial Blood is frankly unlistenable. And Remains of Of A Cursed Dead Soul is barely listenable.
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democracyiscringe
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 10:06 pm 
 

Unlistenable? "Vampires.." is a case study in GOOD raw black metal sound. It's so rotten and ghostly. (Yet you can make out every riff.)
Post-"reunion" material is hit and miss, of course, so my hopes aren't too high for this.

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Forever Underground
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 10:18 pm 
 

Yeah Vampires of Black Imperial Blood is a landmark in the raw black metal realm. The atmosphere is incredibly deep and sinister, the production is noisy but you can recognize every aspect of each main instrument, the melodies are beautiful and the compositions extremely haunting.
Remains Of A Cursed Dead Soul is less accessible, much more despair and grim and even without being as complete as "Vampires" it's incredibly satisfying just because of the artistic performance it possesses. Absolutely soul crushing.
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mike_87
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2024 2:13 pm 
 

I fucking love the band and was so excited hearing that they are to reunite and release a new album, hes never done a bad album in my opinion, just hope he didnt rush this new one given its surprise announcement. Easily one of France’s best bands, i remember really enjoying Black milennium, Rattenkonig, and Sorrow Galaxies. I did struggle to get into the albums released under his own name though, anyone else feel the same? They were also supposedly black metal albums but they were really nothing like or anywhere near as good as mutiilation, i liked his contributions to Hell Militia however. I don’t think I’ve checked out Suicide Circle yet.

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greywanderer7
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 24, 2024 3:01 pm 
 

I hope The Fall of Islam takes a stance against that retrograde POS religion but not from a racist/anti-immigrant perspective, but it would be too much to ask from an aging, French BM band.

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democracyiscringe
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 8:49 am 
 

If it helps you stop stressing out over it at all, glibly calling a massive religion like Islam as a whole "retrograde," "shit," "not liberal enough," etc. is pure western cultural imperialism no matter how you slice it, and no matter how hard you try to dress it up as just secularism or "non-racist criticism of organized religion." At the end of the day you're using the cosmopolitan western values you chanced into being born into as a measuring stick for all other value systems, which is inherently culturally chauvinistic and tacitly "anti-immigrant" whether you consider yourself anti-immigrant or not. So yeah. With that said I don't go to black metal for social consciousness and I don't really care which angle this album takes.

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Metal_On_The_Ascendant
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:24 am 
 

democracyiscringe wrote:
If it helps you stop stressing out over it at all, glibly calling a massive religion like Islam as a whole "retrograde," "shit," "not liberal enough," etc. is pure western cultural imperialism no matter how you slice it, and no matter how hard you try to dress it up as just secularism or "non-racist criticism of organized religion." At the end of the day you're using the cosmopolitan western values you chanced into being born into as a measuring stick for all other value systems, which is inherently culturally chauvinistic and tacitly "anti-immigrant" whether you consider yourself anti-immigrant or not. So yeah. With that said I don't go to black metal for social consciousness and I don't really care which angle this album takes.


This. All of this.

Any critique of Islam from a black metal artist out of France of all places cannot (and should not) be expected to be nuanced and free from the inherent bias that sort of cultural criticism comes loaded with.
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jose_G
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 2:00 pm 
 

great news!!

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mike_87
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 5:30 pm 
 

jose_G wrote:
great news!!

New album drops this friday too! Anyone heard it yet? Just torrenting it now myself

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mike_87
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 28, 2024 7:06 pm 
 

Just heard the new album myself, i think its brilliant, still the same Mutiilation we all knew and loved, relentless brutality and excellent riffs, standout tracks for me were Hominicide, Into the cursed Necropolis, and the mirror of Disillusion although generally no bad songs, the guy is a genius.

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Slater922
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2024 8:33 am 
 

Giving the album a listen. Did not expect the album to hit as hard as it did. Glad to see this one wasn't a flop.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2024 9:26 pm 
 

i figured he wouldn’t resurrect the project for some half-assed bullshit but goddamn this is fucking killer. didn’t expect it to be so furious. riffs for fucking days. might be the best metal album i’ve heard so far this year
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 29, 2024 10:25 pm 
 

Really enjoyed the first pass through but it definitely demands multiple listens.
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baconboom
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 3:07 pm 
 

This is definitely some of the most aggressive music that Mutiilation has released and I'm here for it. I enjoyed Sorrow Galaxies quite a bit, but wasn't expecting something this stellar so late in the discography. Meyhna'ch will never top Vampires, but this is easily my favourite since Remains.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 2:26 am 
 

Metal_On_The_Ascendant wrote:
democracyiscringe wrote:
If it helps you stop stressing out over it at all, glibly calling a massive religion like Islam as a whole "retrograde," "shit," "not liberal enough," etc. is pure western cultural imperialism no matter how you slice it, and no matter how hard you try to dress it up as just secularism or "non-racist criticism of organized religion." At the end of the day you're using the cosmopolitan western values you chanced into being born into as a measuring stick for all other value systems, which is inherently culturally chauvinistic and tacitly "anti-immigrant" whether you consider yourself anti-immigrant or not. So yeah. With that said I don't go to black metal for social consciousness and I don't really care which angle this album takes.


This. All of this.


Is total nonsense? Yes it is. What about when it's someone who grew up in Islam calling it a POS retrograde religion? Is it still just cultural chauvinism? Anyone who has read the Quran should be under no illusions about the religion being unsalvageable and worthless.

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Forever Underground
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 10, 2024 5:51 am 
 

I've finally listened to it, quite surprised for good, not only for the organic sound he has achieved but also because this is his most aggressive and destructive work, if I had to make a ranking right now of his main discography it would be like this:

1º Vampires Of Black Imperial Blood
2º Remains Of A Ruined, Dead, Cursed Soul
3º Majestas Leprosus
4º Black Metal Cult
5º Black Millenium (Grimly Reborn)
6º Sorrow Galaxies
7º Rattenkönig

Overall with "The Fall of Islam" lyrics I don't feel that there is any blatant Islamophobia, it feels the same as the anti-Christian lyrics, so even though the quality of the lyrical content is somewhat poor, props to Meyhna'ch for making anti-Islam lyrics the way they should be. Plus the album earns bonus points for being released in the middle of holy week, chad act.
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