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Weerwolf
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2018 2:23 pm 
 

Listening to the new Varathron album. Sounds fantastic!!!

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thewrll
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2018 7:34 pm 
 

The metal albums that so far I have given 5 stars are

https://thetruepanopticon.bandcamp.com/ ... s-i-and-ii

https://morari.bandcamp.com/album/the-light

https://tribulacionproductions.bandcamp ... emorias-cd

https://artofpropaganda.bandcamp.com/album/arson

https://npiljp.bandcamp.com/album/im-alive

https://npiljp.bandcamp.com/album/endless-suffering

https://npiljp.bandcamp.com/album/the-winter

https://deathboundrecords.bandcamp.com/ ... disquieted

https://summoning.bandcamp.com/album/with-doom-we-come

https://andnowtheowlsaresmiling.bandcam ... desolation

https://tekarradoom.bandcamp.com/releases

https://omination.bandcamp.com/album/fo ... apocalypse

https://fortressoftheoldendays.bandcamp.com/releases

https://altarofperversion.bandcamp.com/album/intra-naos

https://untamedland.bandcamp.com/album/ ... -the-winds
Might be the oddest black metal album this year


https://witheredgrey.bandcamp.com/album ... osenwalzer

https://ruinedband.bandcamp.com/album/woven-shade

https://ezkaton1.bandcamp.com/album/pla ... pires-time

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ObservationSlave
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2018 11:17 pm 
 

I'm really digging the new Fractal Gates album. Anyone that likes Cold Insight or Enshine or any other projects this guy is in will enjoy this as well. It's a bit more upbeat than those bands, but still captures the same feel.

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Damballah
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 2:38 am 
 

Ungfell - Mythen, Mären, Pestilenz

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Just solid Black Metal in the vein of Brocken Moon.

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e_ddi_e
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 3:51 am 
 

thewrll wrote:
The metal albums that so far I have given 5 stars are



If you put some effort in your posting, someone might actually be interested in clicking on these links ...

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PorcupineOfDoom
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 4:41 am 
 

ObservationSlave wrote:
I'm really digging the new Fractal Gates album. Anyone that likes Cold Insight or Enshine or any other projects this guy is in will enjoy this as well. It's a bit more upbeat than those bands, but still captures the same feel.


Had no idea they had new album out, need to give that one a go. Man, this thread just keeps throwing new stuff at me

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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 8:03 am 
 

Red Devil Vortex have a killer little EP out. This is a bit too modern rockish, with the very smooth vocals, to be totally metal... but the guitar tone is tremendous and the riffs are real first rate stuff.

https://reddevilvortex.bandcamp.com/alb ... s-to-die-2

Anyone who likes a bit of modern-ish heavy metal like the Bruce Dickinson solo works or anything urban breed did'll probably find this enjoyable. They have potential.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 8:58 am 
 

thewrll wrote:


Dear GOD, Man.

Five stars for all these bands? Can I possibly say you need a better vetting process?
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thewrll
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 1:23 pm 
 

CoconutBackwards wrote:


Those are albums I have loved. I have listened to over 200 albums this year so far and those are the ones I honestly would give 5 stars to. I know I am a generous rater but that's how I am and always will be.

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Pitiless Wanderer
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 11:03 am 
 

That Summoning album isn't a 5 star album at all. More like 2.

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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 12:04 pm 
 

This 1 man band from Ukraine is awesome, reminds me of a quicker/faster and less repetitive Drudkh. You know, that dark, beautiful, generally uplifting nature sounding black metal.

SVRM
https://svrm.bandcamp.com/album/--6

Also mentioned a few pages back, but I don't think anyone really noticed. This has been one of my most listened to albums recently. It starts out a little slower and builds up throughout the album.

Wallfahrer
https://wallfahrer.bandcamp.com/album/anthologie-der-abkehr

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thewrll
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 2:52 pm 
 

Pitiless Wanderer wrote:
That Summoning album isn't a 5 star album at all. More like 2.


I very much disagree.

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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 3:16 pm 
 

The new album by Sergeant Thunderhoof is absolutely incredible. Very melodic but also kinda proggy stoner doom that reminds me of later Cathedral in spots.

https://sergeantthunderhoof.bandcamp.com/
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InnesI
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 5:13 pm 
 

thewrll wrote:
Those are albums I have loved. I have listened to over 200 albums this year so far and those are the ones I honestly would give 5 stars to. I know I am a generous rater but that's how I am and always will be.


Alarms are always going off when someone claims to have listened to loads of albums in a short amount of time. That means they won't have had the time for many of them, if any, to mature. Then its just mass consumption with little focus on its artistic and deeper merits. The classic example is the person who makes a list of the best albums of the year 2018 (for example) and makes it a best 50 list. Sure, they could have been listening to that many new albums but that means they must have heard loads more than the top 50 and then music is just treated the same as fast food for a person who doesn't care about the culinary experience but just wants the fat and sugar of it.

Same goes for anyone who given loads of albums a perfect rating. That makes me doubt that persons ability to distinguish what a near perfect album might be. What kind of standards does one have if the five star rating is being thrown out here and there? My guess is that the standard is quite low.

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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 11:01 pm 
 

At least @thewrll has a pretty obvious favorite style of music. It's mostly depressive and or ambient black metal with a few random things here and there. Some more descriptions about each different band would have helped though. Some of them are quite good (if you like this style) I still need to check out Harakiri for the Sky and I'd probably like some of these other ones when I'm in the right mood. Withered Grey sounded great when I briefly listened to them, but I wish they didn't have that "talking" in some songs, I'm still gonna give them some more listening time. Fortress Of The Olden Days is really good if you like raw abrasive noisy stuff that sounds like a way better version of Xasthur, I bought this album a few days ago actually.

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Xenophon
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 11:43 pm 
 

InnesI wrote:
thewrll wrote:
Those are albums I have loved. I have listened to over 200 albums this year so far and those are the ones I honestly would give 5 stars to. I know I am a generous rater but that's how I am and always will be.


Alarms are always going off when someone claims to have listened to loads of albums in a short amount of time. That means they won't have had the time for many of them, if any, to mature. Then its just mass consumption with little focus on its artistic and deeper merits. The classic example is the person who makes a list of the best albums of the year 2018 (for example) and makes it a best 50 list. Sure, they could have been listening to that many new albums but that means they must have heard loads more than the top 50 and then music is just treated the same as fast food for a person who doesn't care about the culinary experience but just wants the fat and sugar of it.

I disagree. For some people, at least, if you've listened to enough metal albums and thought enough about your tastes and the components of a good metal album, you can pretty quickly come to a decision about whether or not you like an album and whether it needs further plays. For me, it's rare for that decision to not more or less hold up on repeated listens. Even if an album is subtle, that doesn't necessarily mean it takes multiple listens to pick up on the subtleties. And since metal is rarely truly polyphonic, it's not like there's "too much" going on to take almost all of it in during a single listen (even for bands like Origin or Hideous Divinity), even though the songs are often crammed with riffs and musical ideas (i.e. there can be a lot of musical ideas in an album, but metal bands usually just focus on one idea at a time).

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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 12:36 am 
 

New Nocturnal Graves is fucking badass shit, guys. Check this out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_j2ndMiPfDg
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 8:20 am 
 

The dude who releases under Violet Cold has a new trilogy out. FFO atmosblack/meloblack. One man act out of Azerbaijan.

https://violetcold.bandcamp.com/album/s ... -nostalgia

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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 9:09 am 
 

I'm also pretty skeptical of people who have definitive opinions on so many albums in a single year as well as people whose top album lists exceed more than at least twenty-five. But with that said, there are some albums where you'll have a pretty good idea of how you feel after only one or two listens. I make my ratings as definitive as possible but there's still a margin of error involved.
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 9:52 am 
 

Pitiless Wanderer wrote:
That Summoning album isn't a 5 star album at all. More like 2.


I agree. Pale, generic, weak vocals and awfully repetitive.
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 11:12 am 
 

Gave the new Acherontas a couple of listens this morning. IMO it's not amazing, but it's consistently solid throughout. Very lead driven with constant melodies. None of them completely reach out and grab me though. It's the kind of album I feel like any fan of BM can appreciate, but no guarantees you'll love it. 8/10

So far the best of the year for me is Bong, Necrophobic, Urfaust, and Onirism.

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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 12:50 pm 
 

Xenophon wrote:
I disagree. For some people, at least, if you've listened to enough metal albums and thought enough about your tastes and the components of a good metal album, you can pretty quickly come to a decision about whether or not you like an album and whether it needs further plays. For me, it's rare for that decision to not more or less hold up on repeated listens. Even if an album is subtle, that doesn't necessarily mean it takes multiple listens to pick up on the subtleties. And since metal is rarely truly polyphonic, it's not like there's "too much" going on to take almost all of it in during a single listen (even for bands like Origin or Hideous Divinity), even though the songs are often crammed with riffs and musical ideas (i.e. there can be a lot of musical ideas in an album, but metal bands usually just focus on one idea at a time).


I find that many of the albums I immediately gravitate towards are the ones that hold up the least in the long run. Almost as if the best experience is the first immediate one and that repeat listens can't keep that feeling. And on the other hand I find that albums that take more time to get into are the ones that I generally value higher. Sometimes it takes 10 listens, sometimes 20. And at times I need to put it down and return to it weeks, months or ever years after. My best, and most extreme, example of this would be Tool's 10,000 Days that I initially heard around 2008 and didn't like at all. I went black on the album and returned to it several times before it finally hit me, hard, in 2010 and I have loved it since. That is of course an extreme example but illustrative of the process where some albums have to mature in my head before I can truly grasp them.

If a person claims to have listened to 200 new albums in half a year I doubt each album gets many spins. And I therefore doubt many of the albums have been given time to mature. To give yourself, as a listener, a chance to grasp the nuances, details or get a feeling for the totality of the album apart from just the individual songs is essential otherwise you will miss out on great albums because they are not given time to mature.

And also, as I said before, if a person gives loads of albums the highest rating, say 5/5, I always doubt that person because then it generally means they have to low a standard to give out a perfect rating so often.

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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 1:02 pm 
 

Andreas_Hansen wrote:
Pitiless Wanderer wrote:
That Summoning album isn't a 5 star album at all. More like 2.


I agree. Pale, generic, weak vocals and awfully repetitive.


No. Also how can Summoning be generic, please enlighten me.

Summoning has also always been repetitious; that’s part of their charm.
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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2018 9:22 pm 
 

I agree with your last statement. I am just talking about the album in comparison to their previous material. It's indeed weak and watered down. It sounds phoned in, with nothing memorable.

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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2018 1:57 am 
 

New Summoning is damn close to a 5 in my view.. odd that that's the one people singled out from that mammoth list of albums. I don't particularly get how one can be a Summoning fan and not love that album.

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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2018 2:50 am 
 

cultofkraken wrote:
No. Also how can Summoning be generic, please enlighten me.

Summoning has also always been repetitious; that’s part of their charm.


It's not because a band has brought a major evolution and has widened the BM scene that it can't become generic. Contrary to all the previous albums, even Lugburz, I never found a touch of originality nor anything that could tell me I was listening to Summoning. In fact if I had listened to it blindly, I would have almost thought this would have been a lame, repetitive random BM album like the ones that are popping like mushrooms after a storm these times. It sounds like "everything else".

And so you're using a pejorative adjective ("repetitious") to qualify the music of a band you like and to defend it? Even though I got your point I find that weird... I always thought what made the charm (and the reputation, the uniqueness) of the band was this very catchy Tolkien atmosphere, these melodies coupled with sometimes folk instruments that take you out of yourself and the high-fantasy lyrics...
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"Generic" is a really nebulous criticism that I don't think anyone uses right. That's why I don't like using it.

That being said, the new Summoning album didn't have nearly as many moments that stayed with me as Old Morning's Dawn. The only two songs that really stuck were "Herumor" and "Mirklands". Everything else just doesn't have as good of an epic feel or is drawn out for too long.

"Tar-Calion" of course is the worst for suffering from being drawn out too long. It needed to be half as long. Also, it's got talking elves. Elves suck.
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2018 1:09 am 
 

Weerwolf wrote:
Listening to the new Varathron album. Sounds fantastic!!!


Giving this a spin now and it is indeed spectacular!

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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2018 1:46 am 
 

Wilytank wrote:
New Nocturnal Graves is fucking badass shit, guys. Check this out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_j2ndMiPfDg


Listened to it a lot and I disagree. Pretty middling and mediocre compared to their past works. Vocals seem a lot less passionate and there's more halfhearted mid-tempo sections compared to their previous raging material. It's not bad but nothing I'll be raving about come six weeks from now.

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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2018 3:55 am 
 

Andreas_Hansen wrote:
cultofkraken wrote:
No. Also how can Summoning be generic, please enlighten me.

Summoning has also always been repetitious; that’s part of their charm.


It's not because a band has brought a major evolution and has widened the BM scene that it can't become generic. Contrary to all the previous albums, even Lugburz, I never found a touch of originality nor anything that could tell me I was listening to Summoning. In fact if I had listened to it blindly, I would have almost thought this would have been a lame, repetitive random BM album like the ones that are popping like mushrooms after a storm these times. It sounds like "everything else".

And so you're using a pejorative adjective ("repetitious") to qualify the music of a band you like and to defend it? Even though I got your point I find that weird... I always thought what made the charm (and the reputation, the uniqueness) of the band was this very catchy Tolkien atmosphere, these melodies coupled with sometimes folk instruments that take you out of yourself and the high-fantasy lyrics...


Your criticism to me still makes very little sense because frankly this album doesn’t stray from the Summoning formula, therefore applying the descriptor “generic” doesn’t make sense. Now I can buy using the terms formulaic or safe, but generic isn’t correct.

Repetition isn’t necessarily a pejorative; you can use it as such but that isn’t inherent to the word. Anyways the reason anyone likes anything is subjective and I rarely assign the value I find in music to what other people are looking for. So let’s leave it at we disagree.
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yeah new varathron is good

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I got distracted from the new Amorphis by these guys, and it was pretty high on my anticipated albums.

Pretty straightforward melodic death, with some other touches. Looks to be out of Spain, can't find a lot about these guys.

https://perpetualnightband.bandcamp.com/album/an-tman

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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 12:02 am 
 

Now I feel like I need to go back and listen to the Summoning album that has everyone in this thread heated
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 12:05 pm 
 

Voidness - Forest of the impaled (demo)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGAi0As4Bkw

found this demo to be a very interesting listening, there's certainly a lot of potential here

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The Beast of Nod - Vampira: Disciple of Chaos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoOgu1zKrpg

just gave this a couple of listens and it's definitely another worthy album from the Tech Death world.
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 2:33 pm 
 

theagentcoma wrote:
Now I feel like I need to go back and listen to the Summoning album that has everyone in this thread heated

Personally, I think it's more apathy then outright hate. It's their second phoned-in album in a row and I think that's why people are upset. I listened to it a dozen times when it first came out, and now a few months later I can't remember a single note from it.

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I loved the new Summoning album, but I haven't been into them since I heard LMHSYF back in 2010ish

personally, there is so much music that comes out nowadays that I really don't think being able to remember songs months and months later is a good indicator for an albums quality. i remember really enjoying terminal redux for example, but i couldn't whistle a riff from it off the top of my head. doesn't mean its a bad album

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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 3:51 pm 
 

Yeah, to sum up briefly my thoughts on the new Summoning it's disappointing in the sense I never found an epic rising, it really bored me. I was astonished by the previous album but not this one. Gave it a few spins and wasn't able to remember a single note.

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personally, there is so much music that comes out nowadays that I really don't think being able to remember songs months and months later is a good indicator for an albums quality. i remember really enjoying terminal redux for example, but i couldn't whistle a riff from it off the top of my head. doesn't mean its a bad album


I agree. I still think it's different for Terminal Redux, as I think the fact you weren't able to remember something wasn't due to the fact that there is an abundance of music but rather because it's a terribly complex album.

When Terminal Redux came out, all of my friends but me had their mind blown away. I enjoyed it but I thought for a long time it was wayyyy overrated. Then I listened to it several times to try to nail everything and it still is not done today because it's very dense and long. But now I changed my mind and I rather think it's the best and the most ambitious revival/modern thrash metal album.
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Man, that final section of "Recharging the Void" is one of the absolute greatest moments in music to be released in 2016. I spin that shit all the time.
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Zelkiiro wrote:
Man, that final section of "Recharging the Void" is one of the absolute greatest moments in music to be released in 2016. I spin that shit all the time.


Clearly an example of what I was saying about massively supported things in TR that I still didn't nail. A lot of people keep on telling me the final part of this song is majestic. I heard it only once or twice and for now I can't see something great. But that's not because my selection is too harsh, just because I think I didn't listen enough to this song.
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