Encyclopaedia Metallum: The Metal Archives

Message board

* FAQ    * Search   * Register   * Login 



Reply to topic
Author Message Previous topic | Next topic
controlledbleeding
Metal newbie

Joined: Wed May 07, 2008 8:26 pm
Posts: 168
Location: Sydney
PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 3:50 am 
 

its a good album. Simple as that.

Top
 Profile  
Vigintiseptem
Metal newbie

Joined: Tue Sep 23, 2014 12:23 pm
Posts: 111
Location: Finland
PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:47 am 
 

FasterDisaster wrote:
Half-decent Morbid Angel is miles better than most shit.

This was my sentiment and level of expectation going into this. And holy shit, did I not anticipate it to be this good. Reminds me a lot of my favorite MA album, FFF. It's kind of like the same beast, aged and with some extra in the gut area, but the youthful spryness intact and its hate matured. Erik Rutan's production is top-notch and Scott Fuller is a way better replacement for Pete than Tim Yeung was.

"Come to Finland!"

Top
 Profile  
Gunslinger21
Metal newbie

Joined: Tue Oct 03, 2017 4:11 am
Posts: 50
PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:59 am 
 

I think that people will critisize it now for being 'safe' and all of that, but fast forward a few years and those same people will be saying how much of a classic it is. That seems to be a bit of a trend with online commentators these days. New stuff gets criticized for being new, but people open their eyes in time. And I think the album rocks.

Top
 Profile  
John_Sunlight
President Satan

Joined: Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:41 am
Posts: 6361
PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 11:11 am 
 

Gunslinger21 wrote:
I think that people will critisize it now for being 'safe' and all of that, but fast forward a few years and those same people will be saying how much of a classic it is. That seems to be a bit of a trend with online commentators these days. New stuff gets criticized for being new, but people open their eyes in time. And I think the album rocks.

That has certainly happened with bands like Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Cannibal Corpse, and some of the bad Morbid Angel albums. Of course it actually demonstrates the opposite of what you are claiming, as it was their initial reaction that was right and time has only caused them to forget how disappointing it was when this stuff came out. Safe means safe, not un-listenable, so going back and no longer having those feelings of disappointment, people hear safe, average music they can run in the background inoffensively. Naturally people they aren't going to continue extreme criticism of music that isn't eliciting any emotional reaction from them.
_________________
"Dave, we have to kill monsters."

Top
 Profile  
Empyreal
The Final Frontier

Joined: Thu Nov 30, 2006 6:58 pm
Posts: 25909
Location: Where the dead rule the night
PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:27 pm 
 

Sure seems like a lot of you guys are bothered that people don't like this album...

I can actually respect rexxz's posts - he seems to have really genuinely listened to this and it makes me actually want to give it another shot. Who knows if I'll dig it though.
_________________
Cinema Freaks latest reviews: The Forest

Top
 Profile  
joppek
Metalhead

Joined: Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:36 am
Posts: 1410
PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:00 pm 
 

i think i'm on my fourth listen-through right now* (maybe fifth?), and as i suspected after my first listen, it's grown on me quite a bit. at this point it really feels like the album is front-loaded with all the filler, and the best stuff is in the middle/end. there's something about the drumming that doesn't quite sit right with me, but i can't put my finger on it - may just be the mixing. the first listens of the album really didn't leave me with much - it felt like pretty decent basic dm, but rather in one ear; out the other, but now that i've given it a little more time, tracks 7,8,9 have stood out to me. that last minute of pillars is some groovy fucking rock'n'roll! i should also say i prefer my morbid angel with david on vocals, and i rate altars and covenant head and shoulders above the rest of their discography, but i have nothing against tucker either, and i if i had to pick a #3 album from them, it could be blessed, formulas or gateways depending on the day of the week and the price of tea in china

i'm pretty sure it won't show up on my year-end top 10 list, but i'd say it's a good, solid album, and a welcome return to form for morbid angel. after i've let them both sink in some more, i could probably rate this about the same as the new cannibal corpse, maybe higher - granted i was never the biggest cc fan

* actually just finished as i was finishing up the post
_________________
All the best bands are affiliated with Satan. -Bart Simpson

Top
 Profile  
rexxz
Where's your band?

Joined: Sun Apr 18, 2004 8:45 pm
Posts: 11061
Location: United States of America
PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:09 pm 
 

Empyreal wrote:
Sure seems like a lot of you guys are bothered that people don't like this album...

I can actually respect rexxz's posts - he seems to have really genuinely listened to this and it makes me actually want to give it another shot. Who knows if I'll dig it though.



I never care who likes or dislikes what; I just sometimes take stances against what I think are inaccurate and more than likely hyperbolic descriptions of things. Fair play if you don't like what you hear but at least describe it correctly in objective terms. An opinion is one thing but when folks start claiming things like I pointed out earlier, it crosses an imaginary line into what seems to be petty disparagement.

No one is obliged to have any sort of opinion on anything, they are what they are. But we should at least be mature about our assessments and also respect other people's preferences, and that stands for everyone no matter what their view on the subject matter is. I think I've said it before but I believe the lines get super blurred when attempting to discuss both an objective and subjective assessment of any given piece of media in the same short space of a few paragraphs.
_________________
Hexenkraft - diabolical cyberpunk darksynth
Cosmic Atrophy - extradimensional death metal

Top
 Profile  
Empyreal
The Final Frontier

Joined: Thu Nov 30, 2006 6:58 pm
Posts: 25909
Location: Where the dead rule the night
PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:40 pm 
 

rexxz wrote:
Empyreal wrote:
Sure seems like a lot of you guys are bothered that people don't like this album...

I can actually respect rexxz's posts - he seems to have really genuinely listened to this and it makes me actually want to give it another shot. Who knows if I'll dig it though.



I never care who likes or dislikes what; I just sometimes take stances against what I think are inaccurate and more than likely hyperbolic descriptions of things. Fair play if you don't like what you hear but at least describe it correctly in objective terms. An opinion is one thing but when folks start claiming things like I pointed out earlier, it crosses an imaginary line into what seems to be petty disparagement.

No one is obliged to have any sort of opinion on anything, they are what they are. But we should at least be mature about our assessments and also respect other people's preferences, and that stands for everyone no matter what their view on the subject matter is. I think I've said it before but I believe the lines get super blurred when attempting to discuss both an objective and subjective assessment of any given piece of media in the same short space of a few paragraphs.


For sure. There's very little objectively that can be said when discussing the merits of any kind of art - the most you can say is 'a lot of people look at this piece of art favorably,' to which the answer could easily just be 'well, I don't agree with them at all.'

People will be hyperbolic a lot. That 0% review for this a day or two after release was a big example.
_________________
Cinema Freaks latest reviews: The Forest

Top
 Profile  
rexxz
Where's your band?

Joined: Sun Apr 18, 2004 8:45 pm
Posts: 11061
Location: United States of America
PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 5:48 pm 
 

It's a valuable thing to discuss both the objective and subjective experiences, but due to the very nature of that kind of discourse there will inevitably be a lot of nebulous statements that might conflate one of those with the other. I myself am not perfect in this regard, but I do my best and I am certainly open to criticisms in my own assessments. I just try my best to avoid disagreeing with someone's personal experience, but every so often you get a line that makes you wonder if someone is even listening to the same album you are. That double bass comment, for example. There's certainly a good amount of that on here but you can just trust me (or not, and listen over and over for yourself like I have) when I say that less than 20% of the total playtime of this album contains measures or bars consisting of nonstop double kick without any alteration of the pattern. It's simply just an untrue statement to make, and then when your opinion of what you're hearing is affected by that perception and you state as much, that's where I have problems.
_________________
Hexenkraft - diabolical cyberpunk darksynth
Cosmic Atrophy - extradimensional death metal

Top
 Profile  
Empyreal
The Final Frontier

Joined: Thu Nov 30, 2006 6:58 pm
Posts: 25909
Location: Where the dead rule the night
PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:53 am 
 

I'm actually kinda digging this now. Don't know if I'll love it like I did their old shit, but it's a nice heavy, bludgeoning hammer of an album with some cool grooves. Safe would be the wrong word - it's not the same thing as something like Surgical Steel. They wanted to do something unrelentingly heavy and bludgeoning it seems, with no real moments of letting-up until the very end.

edit: My impression from the first listen, that they were just bludgeoning away in a repetitive manner, I can still see that as well - but I think they were going for this type of steamrolling brutality with no room to breathe. They wanted to create a suffocating, claustrophobic atmosphere.
_________________
Cinema Freaks latest reviews: The Forest

Top
 Profile  
IamDBR
Metalhead

Joined: Wed Jul 06, 2016 2:58 am
Posts: 1416
PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:12 pm 
 

Shitty mix but it'll do. I'm a bit letdown but then again I'm very selective when it comes to MA. In an year rife with killer death metal of all sorts this doesn't really do a whole lot for me. It has it moments but nah.

Top
 Profile  
Dooders
Metalhead

Joined: Fri Feb 15, 2008 1:00 am
Posts: 696
Location: United States
PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:01 pm 
 

First listen had a couple standouts, but was mostly in one ear out the other. After about four listens I am really getting into it though. At the very least its a solid assault of an album and has some really catchy grooves and rhythmic changes that keep it interesting instead of slipping into a blastfest which some tracks seem like they will. Loving the drums throughout the whole album.

Top
 Profile  
BeholdTheWorld
Mallcore Kid

Joined: Sun Jun 12, 2005 2:00 am
Posts: 17
Location: here
PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 10:44 am 
 

This the album of the year. Trey is a genius. Naysayers would be fellating this if it was a Mithras album, or by some obscure band only they knew about. Those winding, Azagthothian church spire riffs that sound like you're caught inside a cyclone are pure Viagra. Praise be their heaviest and most brutal album to date. I personally kinda like that they held back on leads and solos and whatnot - no frills, no 'atmospheric' shit to draw in apathetic extreme metal voyeurs, just feel-it-in-your-soul fucking death metal.

I really love all the songs but the ones that have resonated strongest have been The Righteous Voice, Architect and Iconoclast and Garden of Disdain.

Top
 Profile  
Empyreal
The Final Frontier

Joined: Thu Nov 30, 2006 6:58 pm
Posts: 25909
Location: Where the dead rule the night
PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 10:51 am 
 

BeholdTheWorld wrote:
Naysayers would be fellating this if it was a Mithras album, or by some obscure band only they knew about.


I don't think so.
_________________
Cinema Freaks latest reviews: The Forest

Top
 Profile  
BeholdTheWorld
Mallcore Kid

Joined: Sun Jun 12, 2005 2:00 am
Posts: 17
Location: here
PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 10:57 am 
 

I'd bet money on it.

Top
 Profile  
Empyreal
The Final Frontier

Joined: Thu Nov 30, 2006 6:58 pm
Posts: 25909
Location: Where the dead rule the night
PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 11:01 am 
 

Again - people sure do seem to be unable to accept that not everyone enjoys the things they like. Pretty immature view.
_________________
Cinema Freaks latest reviews: The Forest

Top
 Profile  
BeholdTheWorld
Mallcore Kid

Joined: Sun Jun 12, 2005 2:00 am
Posts: 17
Location: here
PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 11:21 am 
 

Maybe I was being a bit hyperbolic, it just seemed like some were making their KD listening experience a political one instead of a musical one.

Top
 Profile  
Diamhea
Eats and Spits Corpses

Joined: Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:46 pm
Posts: 9097
Location: At the Heat of Winter
PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 11:24 am 
 

BeholdTheWorld wrote:
This the album of the year. Trey is a genius. Naysayers would be fellating this if it was a Mithras album, or by some obscure band only they knew about. Those winding, Azagthothian church spire riffs that sound like you're caught inside a cyclone are pure Viagra. Praise be their heaviest and most brutal album to date. I personally kinda like that they held back on leads and solos and whatnot - no frills, no 'atmospheric' shit to draw in apathetic extreme metal voyeurs, just feel-it-in-your-soul fucking death metal.

I really love all the songs but the ones that have resonated strongest have been The Righteous Voice, Architect and Iconoclast and Garden of Disdain.


Hi Trey.
_________________
nuclearskull wrote:
Leave a steaming, stinking Rotting Repulsive Rotting Corpse = LIVE YOUNG - DIE FREE and move on to the NEXT form of yourself....or just be a fat Wal-Mart Mcdonalds pc of shit what do I give a fuck what you do.

Last.fm

Top
 Profile  
BeholdTheWorld
Mallcore Kid

Joined: Sun Jun 12, 2005 2:00 am
Posts: 17
Location: here
PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 11:34 am 
 

pft don't I wish brother lol

Top
 Profile  
BasqueStorm
Veteran

Joined: Wed May 26, 2010 2:21 pm
Posts: 3833
Location: Turks and Caicos Islands
PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:33 pm 
 

BeholdTheWorld wrote:
This the album of the year. Trey is a genius. Naysayers would be fellating this if it was a Mithras album, or by some obscure band only they knew about. Those winding, Azagthothian church spire riffs that sound like you're caught inside a cyclone are pure Viagra. Praise be their heaviest and most brutal album to date. I personally kinda like that they held back on leads and solos and whatnot - no frills, no 'atmospheric' shit to draw in apathetic extreme metal voyeurs, just feel-it-in-your-soul fucking death metal.
I really love all the songs but the ones that have resonated strongest have been The Righteous Voice, Architect and Iconoclast and Garden of Disdain.

Cool. For you. :-P

BeholdTheWorld wrote:
Maybe I was being a bit hyperbolic.

:roll:

Top
 Profile  
brain hammer
Metal newbie

Joined: Sat Jan 14, 2012 12:55 pm
Posts: 98
PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 10:07 pm 
 

I like Kingdoms considerably more than Ilud and Heretic. I can't really see why other fans of Formulas or Gateways wouldn't like it. Perhaps it could use a bit more "lava" here and there, but it's still a really solid, crushing DM album.

Top
 Profile  
MikeyC
Official Greeter of Broken Hills

Joined: Wed Jun 14, 2006 5:16 am
Posts: 13743
Location: Australia
PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 5:47 am 
 

Finally got the album today. After one listen I'm surprisingly more impressed than I thought I'd be. Needs more listens but so far so good.

Got the lenticular digipak, as well. Looks nice.
_________________
My collection
The Lions Den wrote:
Just vegan and faggots melo-tech-death for dad's fancy-ass. Fuck!!!

Top
 Profile  
Abominatrix
Harbinger of Metal

Joined: Fri Oct 24, 2003 12:15 pm
Posts: 10850
Location: Canada
PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:31 pm 
 

It sounds like a Morbid Angel album.
But to me, not a very good one. I recognise that Trey must feel caught between a rock and a hard place here. I can't beleive I'm saying this though, but I can totally understand how some might actually feel like I was more interesting than this one. At least with I, I suppose, you really didn't know what to expect. There aren't even any weird instrumentals on this one. A lot of the guitarwork sounds "colourless" or even uninspired, to my ears. I do find myself getting slightly more into the album as it goes on, and there are bits that make my ears perk up, like the solos, when they appear, and the odd riff that calls to mind some of the early material. I'm not a fan of the drumming for the most part, and the insitence on playing million-mile-an-hour double kicks even during the slow parts. Just not my thing. I'll always enjoy a good deal of A through F but I can't see myself returning to K very often. I hope people enjoy it though and that Trey and Co. are proud of what they've accomplished.
_________________
Hush! and hark
To the sorrowful cry
Of the wind in the dark.
Hush and hark, without murmur or sigh,
To shoon that tread the lost aeons:
To the sound that bids you to die.

Top
 Profile  
DeathfareDevil
Metalhead

Joined: Mon Nov 29, 2004 11:30 am
Posts: 885
Location: United States of America
PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:37 pm 
 

Listened to this right after Gateways and I gotta say, this album sounds way more intense and angry than anything they've done since like Covenant. The G album sounds refined and regal in comparison. And as others have mentioned, there are some interesting things happening amid that drum-heavy clamorous mix. Despite MA being one of my favorite dm bands, this wouldn't make my top ten but probably my top twenty.

Top
 Profile  
true_death
Metalhead

Joined: Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:47 pm
Posts: 1327
PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:04 pm 
 

Abominatrix wrote:
I can't beleive I'm saying this though, but I can totally understand how some might actually feel like I was more interesting than this one. At least with I, I suppose, you really didn't know what to expect.


Wow, that's harsh :lol:. I actually think this album is far weirder and more experimental than anything on Illud - just as an example, take a track like "Declaring New Law", which is basically an industrial song played in a death metal style. Sure it's subtle, but it works a lot better than when they just haphazardly glued the two styles together on the mess that was "Too Extreme!!", for example and is objectively superior in every conceivable way :lol:.
_________________
"My lifestyle, determines my deathstyle"

Top
 Profile  
John_Sunlight
President Satan

Joined: Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:41 am
Posts: 6361
PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:43 am 
 

Well, Illud just threw curve ball after curve ball. Can anyone honestly say they weren't stunned after listening to it? With this one even the weird bits are much more anticipated.
_________________
"Dave, we have to kill monsters."

Top
 Profile  
Empyreal
The Final Frontier

Joined: Thu Nov 30, 2006 6:58 pm
Posts: 25909
Location: Where the dead rule the night
PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:02 am 
 

I dunno about stunned - annoyed, maybe. Illud was surprising in a way but it wasn't really executed in any kind of good manner. Kingdoms is stodgy and homogenous but it's got a kind of crushing rage and technicality like an above poster said that makes it work - it's not THAT safe.
_________________
Cinema Freaks latest reviews: The Forest

Top
 Profile  
schizoid
Metalhead

Joined: Mon Jul 19, 2004 8:35 am
Posts: 1391
Location: New Zealand
PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 1:46 am 
 

true_death wrote:

Wow, that's harsh :lol:. I actually think this album is far weirder and more experimental than anything on Illud - just as an example, take a track like "Declaring New Law", which is basically an industrial song played in a death metal style. Sure it's subtle, but it works a lot better than when they just haphazardly glued the two styles together on the mess that was "Too Extreme!!", for example and is objectively superior in every conceivable way :lol:.


It just so happens Decaring New Law is the worst song on the album too.
_________________
add me on Untappd! https://untappd.com/user/ChairmanDrew

Top
 Profile  
chugging_pus
Metal newbie

Joined: Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:59 pm
Posts: 200
PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:01 am 
 

I remember Trey slagging other death metal bands for their riffs "lacking resonance." The bands he slagged on still were Morbid Angel fans even though he targeted them. And rightfully, he has written so many amazing riffs compared to others, when he created quality albums he had the right to criticize and motivate others.

This new album lacks resonance, lacks flow. Sounds confused and undeveloped. This new drummer has agility but lacks creativity and the production of his drums certainly sounds awful. His fills are overloaded with double bass instead of creative hand work, and he repeats the same mehanical fills over and over.distracts from everything else going on.

Groove riffson DEAD, no thanks. Disco beats on Declafing New Law, no thanks. A couple songs sounding like actual metalcore written by 22 year olds. I'll pass on this one. Maybe in the next 8 years Trey will take time perfecting riffs back to former glory and their drummer will learn to create with his hands and not just his feet.

Of course many people are satisfied because it's loud and fast and heavy!

Top
 Profile  
true_death
Metalhead

Joined: Thu Sep 26, 2013 6:47 pm
Posts: 1327
PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:06 am 
 

Empyreal wrote:
I dunno about stunned - annoyed, maybe. Illud was surprising in a way but it wasn't really executed in any kind of good manner. Kingdoms is stodgy and homogenous but it's got a kind of crushing rage and technicality like an above poster said that makes it work - it's not THAT safe.


And wouldn't you agree that the half of the album that was actual death metal was extremely safe, tired, and streamlined? People seem to have forgotten that shit actually existed (not that I blame them :lol:). My point was that while yes, Illud was "stunning", that was all it was - the experimental nature was completely superficial. There's nothing deeper to glean from a track like "Too Extreme!!"...ever try and listen to all 6+ minutes of it? Notice how it never actually does anything....it never even tries, at it's core it's just an extremely boring, repetitive collection of awful annoying sounds. The same is true of every single one of the experimental tracks on that album...it's all superficial, surface-level experimentation that has nothing to say beyond shock value. The opposite is true of this album. It's still experimental, but those elements are much more subtle and well-integrated, and it feels like the songs were put together with a lot more care and precision - and may take repeated listens to even pick up on.
_________________
"My lifestyle, determines my deathstyle"

Top
 Profile  
Empyreal
The Final Frontier

Joined: Thu Nov 30, 2006 6:58 pm
Posts: 25909
Location: Where the dead rule the night
PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 8:26 am 
 

Exactly, yeah, it was all quite blandly written and dumb in a way. It's easy to look at Kingdoms and accuse it of being more of the same, stagnant, etc, but there was effort put into making interesting metal songs on it. Illud was really just a spectacle not only for the experimenting, but also for how dull and lame everything about it from the playing to the vocals was. Nothing at all sounded good and there was no cleverness. I would've loved a song like "God of Emptiness" with some techno-ish backing, creepy electronic ambiance and the like... that's not what we got.
_________________
Cinema Freaks latest reviews: The Forest

Top
 Profile  
guitarshredder6666
Mallcore Kid

Joined: Sat Jul 23, 2016 8:41 pm
Posts: 7
Location: United States
PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:25 pm 
 

killer death metal cd

Top
 Profile  
guitarshredder6666
Mallcore Kid

Joined: Sat Jul 23, 2016 8:41 pm
Posts: 7
Location: United States
PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 9:33 pm 
 

altars of madness
blessed are the sick
covenant
domiantion
entangled in chaos
formuals fatal to flesh
gateways to anilation
hertic
ill div diveidum
kingdoms disdained

Top
 Profile  
MikeyC
Official Greeter of Broken Hills

Joined: Wed Jun 14, 2006 5:16 am
Posts: 13743
Location: Australia
PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 8:51 pm 
 

guitarshredder6666 wrote:
altars of madness
blessed are the sick
covenant
domiantion
entangled in chaos
formuals fatal to flesh
gateways to anilation
hertic
ill div diveidum
kingdoms disdained

LOL okay thanks for that. :lol: :lol: :lol:

In terms of Kingdoms Disdained, I've listened to it a number of times and I'm really enjoying this one. There's some really warped riffing and the songs are very engaging. Personally, it might be their best one since Formulas. A very nice comeback for this band.
_________________
My collection
The Lions Den wrote:
Just vegan and faggots melo-tech-death for dad's fancy-ass. Fuck!!!

Top
 Profile  
Xenophon
Metalhead

Joined: Wed Aug 13, 2014 12:07 am
Posts: 695
Location: United States
PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 9:34 pm 
 

guitarshredder6666 wrote:
altars of madness
blessed are the sick
covenant
domiantion
entangled in chaos
formuals fatal to flesh
gateways to anilation
hertic
ill div diveidum
kingdoms disdained


Why does everyone always forget Juvenilia?

EDIT: And regarding my thoughts on the album, I've only heard it once, but I wasn't a big fan. If I were to pick it apart song-by-song, however, the songwriting quality varied quite significantly. In particular, "The Righteous Voice" stood out as my favorite song with its fast, catchy riffs. I generally don't like Morbid Angel's slower songs, and the ones on this album seemed to be particularly bad. 63% was the number I had in mind when I finished listening to the album, and I just noticed that happens to be the average rating for the album on this site. Some cool things like the faster songs and the production, some lame things like most of the slower songs... and it all balances out to a "meh."


Last edited by Xenophon on Sat Dec 16, 2017 9:50 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Top
 Profile  
mjollnir
Metalhead

Joined: Sat Jul 17, 2004 4:14 pm
Posts: 1665
Location: Boswell, PA USA
PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 9:44 pm 
 

chugging_pus wrote:
Of course many people are satisfied because it's loud and fast and heavy!

Exactly. There are so many people jizzing all over this album because it's so br00tal. It's brutally bad. Lol I really believe that people like it because it's not Illud. There is a shitload of better death metal that was released this year.
_________________
The Elitist Metalhead
The Elitist Metalhead on Facebook

Top
 Profile  
ShaolinLambKiller
King Asshole

Joined: Fri Dec 07, 2007 6:10 pm
Posts: 13131
Location: United States
PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 2:51 pm 
 

When I find one in the bargin bin I'll pick it up. I don't think it's flat out terrible. I don't think it's flat out bad. it's just sorta there. at best it sounds like undeveloped ideas from Formulas with leftover or throwaway riffs from Gateways with some of the song structuring from heretic. it kinda seems more of a rush job overall. These songs i feel would be better overall if they wrote them, then gestated, jammed, demoed and then came back to them after a year of writing. i think with that refinement We might have had something a bit more noteworthy. I mean the solos and atmosphere is half the appeal of MA for me. I don't have much bad to say about the drummer, he sounds like a better fit than Tim. production overall is alright enough that i wouldn't nitpick it too much. I just feel the guitars could be a bit more defined be it less mud it's odd I can't place exactly what's so off about them. i figured since everyone else put their cent in I would too. so yea i'll probably pick this up used. and the cover looks like an expansion for world of warcraft which at first I hate but thinking of it like that I don't mind now.
_________________
A bunch of mp3s is not a collection of anything.
http://www.cavepaints.com <--Horrid art and musics.
http://www.facebook.com/MaulerCustomCabs <--- huge heavy/loud boxes I build.
http://speedritualrecords.storenvy.com/ Check out my music here

Top
 Profile  
Temple Of Blood
Metalhead

Joined: Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:16 am
Posts: 1484
Location: United States
PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 11:13 am 
 

Finally listened to it. It's OK. It's not bad and it's no "Covenant".

The best thing about it is the new drummer. He carries on for Pete surprisingly well.

The songwriting needs improvement.
_________________
TEMPLE OF BLOOD: Intense PowerThrash Metal
Facebook / ReverbNation / Old homepage

Top
 Profile  
Diamhea
Eats and Spits Corpses

Joined: Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:46 pm
Posts: 9097
Location: At the Heat of Winter
PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 9:44 am 
 

Quote:
Just "Existo Vulgore" off the previous record had more life than is to be found in all of this one.


Image
_________________
nuclearskull wrote:
Leave a steaming, stinking Rotting Repulsive Rotting Corpse = LIVE YOUNG - DIE FREE and move on to the NEXT form of yourself....or just be a fat Wal-Mart Mcdonalds pc of shit what do I give a fuck what you do.

Last.fm

Top
 Profile  
t1337Dude
Metalhead

Joined: Sat May 26, 2007 5:20 am
Posts: 939
Location: Seattle
PostPosted: Sat Dec 23, 2017 11:30 pm 
 

MikeyC wrote:
LOL okay thanks for that. :lol: :lol: :lol:

In terms of Kingdoms Disdained, I've listened to it a number of times and I'm really enjoying this one. There's some really warped riffing and the songs are very engaging. Personally, it might be their best one since Formulas. A very nice comeback for this band.


I'm with you on this one. I'm hearing very vague complaints of song-writing but they aren't specific and I'm finding that the songs are really well-written. It sounds a more similar to other modern DM bands than previous MA offerings used to, which I'm really enjoying. I can't speculate exactly why people dislike this album (each for their own reasons I'm sure), but I'm aware a large amount of MA fans simply don't like modern death metal. Most people I know who listen to a lot of metal music think anything heavier than old MA or classic DM drifts into "pure noise" territory, and perhaps a lot of MA fans might be feeling that here.

Top
 Profile  
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Reply to topic Go to page Previous  1 ... 6, 7, 8, 9, 10  Next


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Empyreal and 15 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

 
Jump to:  

Back to the Encyclopaedia Metallum


Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group