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PhilosophicalFrog
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 11:12 am 
 

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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 1:27 pm 
 

Sepulchrave wrote:
And, you know, bronies and furries aren't necessarily advocates of racial violence who seek to affect their political scene and stuff...


Sorry to break it to you buddy but...


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PhilosophicalFrog
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2017 1:35 pm 
 

https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/02/paleocons-for-porn/
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Malefikant
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 1:28 pm 
 

Being the two-faced hypocrite he always was, of course Yosuke Konishi from NWN has now forgiven Blake Judd after an emotional telephone call (probably lost his tiny "balls" when there's no applauding audience). No more badmouthing on his forum, no more anti-Blake Judd merchandise etc. How sweet. Everything's fluffy again. As if nothing had happened.

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FirebathDan
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:14 pm 
 

The hypocrisy about "separating the art from the artist" and how it doesn't apply to this guy is astounding.

See the recent Inquisition thread. Weirbach is a convicted child pornographer (saying nothing of the "alleged" Nazi leanings) and people were willing to overlook it for a plethora of reasons ("riffs!", "who cares? I only like the music!", "it's true to being evil!") but Judd is apparently persona non grata for stealing.

There's nothing in the additional notes on either Inquisition's band page or Weirbach's artist page about a child pornography conviction, yet both the Natchmystium and Judd pages have this dissertation about him being a "prolific scammer".

So yeah, to use common logic here, I like most of Nachtmystium's music and will check out a new record, if released. I don't give a fuck who Judd stole from. I'll take a thief over a child pornographer any day.

Separate the art from the artist, right?
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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:16 pm 
 

I think it's more the social stigma of open hard drug use than anything.
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FirebathDan
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:38 pm 
 

Diamhea wrote:
I think it's more the social stigma of open hard drug use than anything.


Fair play, and you're probably right.

Doesn't make it any less hypocritical (not you specifically, in a general sense) for people to take a moral "high ground" and chastise Judd but be selective in overlooking when others do far more reprehensible things.
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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 4:06 pm 
 

Oh I know, there are brutal double standards. But people do love a trainwreck, and he delivered that.
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Steve Nebraska
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2018 4:36 pm 
 

When it comes down at the end of the day between people bitching in the matter of inquisition vs nachtmystium it’s the same fucking results, two wrongs don’t make a right.

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~Guest 389043
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:01 am 
 

Malefikant wrote:
Being the two-faced hypocrite he always was, of course Yosuke Konishi from NWN has now forgiven Blake Judd after an emotional telephone call (probably lost his tiny "balls" when there's no applauding audience). No more badmouthing on his forum, no more anti-Blake Judd merchandise etc. How sweet. Everything's fluffy again. As if nothing had happened.


Yeah, Konishi is a polesmoker. My favourite Konishism is when he released that Sixx record (post punk/goth rock) and my friend asked him how that fitted in with his 'ANTI-GOTH' record numbering system. No answer, just banned from the forum. Second favourite was when he melted over me having a laugh at a 'limited edition' t shirt in February 2014 (says Cock Hard Records in large print on the back) and then banned me from his forum. Might bump that thread actually as his Cock Hard limited to 40 pieces is still available four years later for $10. Haha.

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Malefikant
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 1:06 pm 
 

Everflowingstream wrote:
Yeah, Konishi is a polesmoker. My favourite Konishism is when he released that Sixx record (post punk/goth rock) and my friend asked him how that fitted in with his 'ANTI-GOTH' record numbering system. No answer, just banned from the forum. Second favourite was when he melted over me having a laugh at a 'limited edition' t shirt in February 2014 (says Cock Hard Records in large print on the back) and then banned me from his forum. Might bump that thread actually as his Cock Hard limited to 40 pieces is still available four years later for $10. Haha.


Yes, I think several users got banned because they made fun of VON and related, after the reunion turned out to be a big fucking joke.

My final blow was when I dared to call out their newest label signing in his protected safe haven when it became a bit too cocky to others ---> permaban and all my promo/release threads I had there since 2009 deleted. As if nothing ever happened there. He still spinelessly sells my records in his distro, though.

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SuspirianSuspicion
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:13 pm 
 

Another reason people may have more difficult separating someone like Blake Judd from the art than they can for bands like Inquisition, is because when plagiarism is present, it is inseparable from the music. It quite literally is the music. Someone's personal viewpoints/lifestyle may inform the music, but it's less directly a part of the music itself.

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Gunslinger21
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 3:25 am 
 

I'm surprised this Judd hasn't been seriously assaulted for ripping so many people off.

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Riggs
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 10:47 am 
 

Won't drop a dime on Nachtmystium but I'll definitely check this out, they make good music

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blackmantram
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 3:55 pm 
 

FirebathDan wrote:
See the recent Inquisition thread. Weirbach is a convicted child pornographer


Is he? As far as I remember he was accused but not convicted of it (possessing child pornography, not sure if it's the same as being a pornographer) unless both words are interchangeable but I'm pretty sure they are not.
However I see your point, but I think it's just a matter of perception. I think inquisition's got a lot of backlash as well, probably not as bad as Blake but still, on the other hand, Nachtmystium actively scammed their fans and showed no signs of remorse (he eventually apologized... many years later), Dagon's accusations were really never proven even though he took a plea deal. Most of the stuff surrounding the controversy were just rumors and no one knows which were true and which weren't, so I think it's not fair to compare both incidents.

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FirebathDan
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 5:10 pm 
 

A plea deal is acceptance of guilt for a crime committed. There's a criminal record. That's a conviction. Nothing "rumor" about it. Fair comparison. Last I'll say on this matter.
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blackmantram
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 6:05 pm 
 

Didn't say he was innocent. There were more than one accusation, one of which was "displaying porn in public" or something. There were others as well if I remember correctly and no one really knows which ones he pleaded to. Yeah, his statements are kind of shady, but that could mean anything. The guy had some personal problems related to porn and got into legal problems because of it, that's all we really know. The rest are just rumors.

Blake? He directly stole from people in a well known confirmed episode, not a rumor but a fact. The guy is not only a scammer but an asshole, and he directly affected his fans and people who believed in him (seals, promoters, etc). Still not a fair comparison by any means for me.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 9:59 pm 
 

FirebathDan wrote:
The hypocrisy about "separating the art from the artist" and how it doesn't apply to this guy is astounding.


Inquisition never stole money from fans or labels.

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Diamhea
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2018 11:37 pm 
 

TheMysticWombat wrote:
Inquisition never stole money from fans or labels.


But what Weirbach is accused of is certainly worse, no?
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Ariesvexic
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 2:05 am 
 

It's definitely worse.

Aside from that, i'd like to see blake make good on his promises of paying back what he owes his fans (yeah fuckin right) he suckered me out of 40 dollars. I should've known something was up the second he kept adding more and more quantity to his 'limited' run of preorder shirts.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2018 1:36 pm 
 

He make amends with NWN and HH it will go away. Just shows you how much Konishi cares for the underground secene - is essentially opening the door to someone who owes a lot of people money. The same Konishi who has pinned posts about small time Paypal scams in his forum. Wonder how he'd go if someone had decent info on that Russo fellow but would only echange upon Blake Drug handing over merchendise paid for years ago.

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Malefikant
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 8:50 am 
 

Now Blake Judd is even co-releasing stuff with NWN, and of all things they are doing reissues of Judas Iscariot. This is such a turnaround of all people involved it's mind boggling.

And Aeonblade: If you have something to say, say it here. Don't be a coward and go behind my back. You are some kind of mod here, so we're on your territory. Don't talk shit out of your ass elsewhere when you have no clue.


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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 9:24 am 
 

Been fun over at NWN this week. Zero Conviction Now!

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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 9:25 am 
 

Everflowingstream wrote:
He make amends with NWN and HH it will go away. Just shows you how much Konishi cares for the underground secene - is essentially opening the door to someone who owes a lot of people money. The same Konishi who has pinned posts about small time Paypal scams in his forum. Wonder how he'd go if someone had decent info on that Russo fellow but would only echange upon Blake Drug handing over merchendise paid for years ago.


Think I was under the influence when typing this, haha.

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Malefikant
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 10:07 am 
 

I think it was also the first time in the internet since 2003 when I saw a thread being rage-locked only to be unlocked again a couple of days later to make half-assed amends. They are walking in very desperate shoes of insecurity right now.

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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 10:50 am 
 

Malefikant wrote:
Now Blake Judd is even co-releasing stuff with NWN, and of all things they are doing reissues of Judas Iscariot. This is such a turnaround of all people involved it's mind boggling.

And Aeonblade: If you have something to say, say it here. Don't be a coward and go behind my back. You are some kind of mod here, so we're on your territory. Don't talk shit out of your ass elsewhere when you have no clue.


Calm down.

For everyone else: http://nwnprod.com/forum/viewtopic.php? ... sc&start=0
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blackmantram
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 11:23 am 
 

People actively pre-ordering from Blake Judd 6+ months in advance...
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I sincerely hope this doesn't end up badly for anyone.

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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 9:12 pm 
 

Malefikant wrote:
I think it was also the first time in the internet since 2003 when I saw a thread being rage-locked only to be unlocked again a couple of days later to make half-assed amends. They are walking in very desperate shoes of insecurity right now.


Seen the latest "Don't be an asshole" thread? Incredible, especially when he has threads calling out people doing $13.88 Paypal claims.

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People actively pre-ordering from Blake Judd 6+ months in advance...

I don't think it's a coincidence that PayPal's buyer protection period only lasts 6 months after purchase date. With that said, it seems that Leviathan at least are happy with the partnership, there haven't been any reports of ripoffs so far, and I'm sure Bandcamp are keeping a close eye on this.
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Surely this time Blake will deliver, YOU GUYS.
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I was browsing his Instagram out of curiosity; looks like he shacked up with some single mom? Either way, he looks well and in good spirits based on what I've seen. I'm no expert, though... :wink:
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2018 10:25 am 
 

Gunslinger21 wrote:
I'm surprised this Judd hasn't been seriously assaulted for ripping so many people off.


He has run out of venues before when he has spotted people who he owed money to.

As for the people calling the whole Weirbach thing "rumors", you clearly didn't read the police report. They had him by the balls, and the fact that he was never convicted of possession is more than likely due to a plea deal; when the courts are as overburdened as they are, it's easier to just get one dude who was downloading and viewing CP to plead down so that they can devote more resources to going after the big fish. If you're not familiar with the US criminal court system, then I understand, but if you are, then I'll chalk up failure to read between the lines as willful ignorance and/or blind contrarianism.

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the only real thing i really feel weird about is how the "unreleased" JI album is (going by song titles) all stuff that was previously released on other things, you have a 7", material from the [i]None Shall Escape the Wrath" split and the mighty "Black Eternal Winds," plus the title was an outro on an older album. and none of this is mentioned in the little blurb about how it previously was shelved. idk, i think it wouldn't be too hard to throw in a phrase about "material being used on various releases" or something. it's almost like AMM doesn't want people to know that this shit was previously out there.

blake sure looks like he's doing better, if instagram photos from a few months back are any sign. and i hope he is. really cant imagine the fallout from this if it does turn out to be vintage blake.

in any case, if i do decide to cop some records (and i'll admit i don't care as much for bm or records these days, but Judas Iscariot will always have a special place in my heart), i'll get them from nwn or somewhere. just to be safe.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:38 pm 
 

And the sega continues. Looks like Blake or his label or the label he works as an custodian is reissuing albums as bootlegs?

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Steve Nebraska wrote:
And the sega continues. Looks like Blake or his label or the label he works as an custodian is reissuing albums as bootlegs?


BIG FUCKING SURPRISE, NEVER SAW THAT COMING!

Yes, the first Judas Iscariot record they actually shipped out was a bootleg of the Sombre Records version with a slightly different cover and a scratched-out matrix code.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 9:19 pm 
 

Zodijackyl wrote:
Steve Nebraska wrote:
And the sega continues. Looks like Blake or his label or the label he works as an custodian is reissuing albums as bootlegs?


BIG FUCKING SURPRISE, NEVER SAW THAT COMING!

Yes, the first Judas Iscariot record they actually shipped out was a bootleg of the Sombre Records version with a slightly different cover and a scratched-out matrix code.



Ha ha ha! Hate to be that guy to say I told you so. But I’m sure there’s x10000 of others saying that too.

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Zodijackyl wrote:
Steve Nebraska wrote:
And the sega continues. Looks like Blake or his label or the label he works as an custodian is reissuing albums as bootlegs?


BIG FUCKING SURPRISE, NEVER SAW THAT COMING!

Yes, the first Judas Iscariot record they actually shipped out was a bootleg of the Sombre Records version with a slightly different cover and a scratched-out matrix code.


That thread on NWN exposing this was gold. Some of them were so poorly scratched that you could read 'Monument'. The backstory too was ridiculous (dead stock, selling them at decent price etc).

Until Konishi nuked the thread as it wasn't conducive to the ROI he wants from his partnership.

Pathetic.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:21 am 
 

For what it's worth, I had preordered a couple of Leviathan cds (First Sublevel... and Unfailing Fall...) before I found out who was behind Ascension Media (I thought it was Wrest's new label at first) and I got them both without problems. Still waiting for a couple of Twilight cds, but as I ordered them through their Bandcamp I'm not sure who's handling that.

So is NWN still partenered with AMM or what? The thread getting deleted is par for the course; I'm surprised it lasted that long.
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Lord_Jotun wrote:
So is NWN still partenered with AMM or what? The thread getting deleted is par for the course; I'm surprised it lasted that long.

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The new thread is delivering the goods. The screenprinter who they used for the recent bootleg was smart enough to have photos on social media. Within a short time of them being published in the thread he took them down. Absolute mindfuck this is tolerated.

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