How is Motley Crue and Quiet Riot considered more metal than Avenged Sevenfold?

1. There's been a bit of a consensus regarding what qualifies as "symphonic" metal and "power" metal, but I wonder if there is a gender disparity between the labels. I've heard from somewhere that it seems that even if there is comparatively little orchestration in the music, if it has a frontwoman, it's likely to be categorized as symphonic metal, whereas clearly symphonic metal bands like Kamelot and Savatage are labeled as prog or power metal since they have male singers. What are your thoughts on this?
2. I've heard the term "epic metal" used, but is it really just USPM?

- Maybe because Motley Crue and Quiet Riot are pure hard rock and heavy metal acts while Avenged Sevenfold has alternative/core elements?
- You ask your question as if this statement was shared by everyone, but I'm not sure it's the case. Could you explain where have you heard it?

in terms of trashiness.

Motley Crue and Quiet Riot must have released at least one album of clearly heavy metal even if the rest of their stuff has been glam or hard rock while A7X has not. The criteria is consistent and as simple as that.

This is a weird sentence, but A7X might “feel” more metal across their entire career so far, but if they haven’t released one clearly metal album, they won’t be on here.

Avenged Sevenfold (abbreviated as A7X) is an American heavy metal band from Huntington Beach, California, formed in 1999.

Avenged Sevenfold are known for their diverse rock sound and dramatic imagery in album covers and merchandise.[1] The band emerged with a metalcore sound on their debut album Sounding the Seventh Trumpet and largely continued this sound through their second album Waking the Fallen. The band's style had evolved by their third album and first major label release, City of Evil, into a more traditional heavy metal style. The band continued to explore new sounds with its self-titled release and enjoyed continued mainstream success before their founding drummer, Jimmy "The Rev" Sullivan, died in 2009.

The band's sixth studio album Hail to the King, which was released in 2013, marked the only Avenged Sevenfold album featuring Ilejay. It would feature a heavy metal and hard rock style, with it being written as a tribute to their influences.

Avenged Sevenfold's musical style has consistently evolved throughout the duration of the band's career. As a result, the band has been categorized under several genres of heavy and extreme music, primarily heavy metal,[122][123][124][125] alternative metal,[126][127][128][129] hard rock,[124][130][131] and progressive metal (most notably in their album The Stage).[132][133][134][135] The band's initial style in their first two albums has been primarily categorized as metalcore.[124][125][136] The band's debut album Sounding the Seventh Trumpet, while consisting almost entirely of a hardcore or metalcore sound, has several deviations from this genre, most notably in "Warmness on the Soul", which is a piano ballad.[137][138] On Waking the Fallen, the band displayed a metalcore style once more, but added more clean singing and leaned a bit more towards metal and bit less close to hardcore.[125] In the band's DVD All Excess, producer Andrew Murdock explained this transition: "When I met the band after Sounding the Seventh Trumpet had come out before they had recorded Waking the Fallen, M. Shadows said to me 'This record is screaming. The record we want to make is going to be half-screaming half-singing. I don't want to scream anymore. And the record after that is going to be all singing'."

On Avenged Sevenfold's third album City of Evil, the band chose to outright abandon the metalcore genre,[139] creating a sound consistent with hard rock, heavy metal,[140] and progressive metal.[141] Avenged Sevenfold's self-titled album experiments with an even wider array of musical genres than that from City of Evil, most notably in "Dear God", which shows a country style and "A Little Piece of Heaven", which is circled within the influence of Broadway show tunes, using primarily brass instruments and stringed orchestra to take over most of the role of the lead and rhythm guitar.[142] Nightmare contains further deviations, including a piano ballad called "Fiction", progressive metal-oriented track "Save Me" and a heavy metal sound with extreme vocals and heavier instrumentation on "God Hates Us". The band's sixth studio album Hail to the King shows more of a classic metal sound and a riff-oriented approach. On their seventh album The Stage, the band explores further into progressive metal,[132] blending it with elements of thrash metal. Their eighth album, Life Is But a Dream... shows the band taking on more of an avant-garde metal sound.[143]

From Wikipedia:









Sounding The Seventh Trumpet is categorized as Metalcore and Skate Punk.

Waking The Fallen is categorized as Heavy Metal and Metalcore

City Of Evil is categorized as Heavy metal, progressive metal, hard rock, thrash metal, and power metal

Avenged Sevenfold (album) is categorized as Heavy Metal

Nightmare is categorized as Heavy Metal

Hail To The King is categorized as Heavy Metal

The Stage is categorized as Progressive Metal and Heavy Metal

Life Is But A Dream is categorized as Avant-Garde metal and Progressive Metal

Wikipedia says they've released multiple "clearly metal" albums

Is death "metal" really metal? Shouldn't it be considered a form of punk/hardcore with all that screaming and fast, noisy drumming?
Black Sabbath never sounded anything like that, neither did Deep Purple!!

Are there any metal bands that use polyphonic music be it while singing or with instruments.

Just a stupid question, only reason i am asking it here is that i could not find any better place. Are there any metal bands that use polyphonic music be it while singing or with instruments. (for those who don't know the meaning of the word polyphony it means , in music, the simultaneous combination of two or more tones or melodic lines (the term derives from the Greek word for “many sounds”)). And for reference i would like if you listened to Georgian polyphonic folk music. Something that is similar to than kind of sounds, idk how to explain it but i hope you understand the question. Thanks for help in advance.

Just a stupid question, only reason i am asking it here is that i could not find any better place. Are there any metal bands that use polyphonic music be it while singing or with instruments. (for those who don't know the meaning of the word polyphony it means , in music, the simultaneous combination of two or more tones or melodic lines (the term derives from the Greek word for “many sounds”)). And for reference i would like if you listened to Georgian polyphonic folk music. Something that is similar to than kind of sounds, idk how to explain it but i hope you understand the question. Thanks for help in advance.

Is progressive black metal real? Sounds pretty impossible to me personally.

Is progressive black metal real? Sounds pretty impossible to me personally.